According the Grauniad he is including this years not next or at least not ruling it out
could be smoke and mirrors of course but overt the last few days it seems to me that he is actually begining to get how unpopular his stance has been and softening it
Watch/listen to the actual interview… nothing positive about talking about pay for 2022/23, ie the year and winter of high inflation. They are still full steam ahead with using this high inflation year to embed lower real wages. Trying to use the next pay review to “move on” from the pain of this year for the staff driven to striking. Good line to use for the public, some will think that this is the government being more reasonable… without them having to move an inch.
From that guardian article linked above;
Before that process starts, the government is keen to sit down with the unions and talk about pay and make sure they understand where we’re coming from. -Sunak
Wow. The superlative arrogance of this man. The position is basically do as you are ****ing told, you plebs, I am in charge and I know best”.
On the maths thing..... My daughter is in Y13, studying the IB instead of A levels. For those not familiar, you study 6 subjects, 3 Higher, 3 lower. You have to take maths, english a language and a science, your choice of higher/lower. There is also a core syllabus, which includes writing an extended essay on a topic of your choice.
The maths they learn is more "Practical applications of maths"
IB is a lot of work, but we've been very pleased with it. Hers (Grammar) is one of the few state schools to do IB.
If I had the opportunity i'd make sure the **** needed to use his private health care
Rishi Sunak has opened the door to a pay deal for striking nurses when ministers meet health unions for talks on Monday after signalling for the first time a willingness to address demands for more help with the cost of living.
The Guardian understands ministers are prepared to look at a “one-off” payment to health workers, possibly in the form of a hardship payment to get them through this winter. Downing Street and the Treasury were accused of blocking such an offer last month.
He is moving on this knowing he is losing the public opinion.
He is moving on this knowing he is losing the public opinion.
For sure, he's not suddenly had an epiphany, he's just being reactive rather than proactive.
I’m certainly not holding my breath. For sure, he’s between a rock and a hard place, but Tories value pigheaded strength more than pragmatic flexibility. It’s all very toxic alpha male ego crap.
The only way out of this is if they can find a face saving way to give an increased pay offer, that he can pretend isn’t an increased pay offer, or that extracts some amazing productivity bullshit promise from the unions. We’ll see.
If I had the opportunity i’d make sure the **** needed to use his private health care
Join the queue, it's a long one.
He’s on a hiding to nothing though. The tail has been wagging the dog in the Tory party since 2016.
The same ERG headbangers who championed Boris, then elected her then cheered Liz Trusses insane mini-budget now demand that Rishi go to war with unions. ‘No surrender’ and all that bollocks. And he knows that if he doesn’t appease them then the letters will go in to Graham Brady and they’ll depose him and bring Boris back
They’ll do that anyway, or at least attempt to, or something even more mental like trying to make Suella Braverman PM, but they’ll do it tomorrow if he compromises or shows any pragmatism
As we have been since 2016, we’re all at the mercy of the whims of these swivel-eyed loons, while they run the country aground
I do wonder if those couple of tentative steps towards a settlement from Sunak will be reversed once the loons give him a wedgie for even thinking of a tiny compromise
And he knows that if he doesn’t appease them then the letters will go in to Graham Brady and they’ll depose him and bring Boris back
No he doesn't know that. What he does know is that there is next to zero chance the Tories will change their leader yet again before next year's general election.
He would have to do something monumentally stupid before the Tories even begin to start thinking of replacing him, the chances of that happening are too remote to even consider.
Just look at what Liz Truss had to do to force the Tories to replace her, and how much slack they cut Boris Johnson as he staggered from one disaster to the next disaster for the best part of a year.
Rishi Sunak won't have any problem keeping is nose clean with the party, the only thing that he needs to worry about is how much of disaster the next election night will be for Tories.
And knows that right now the Tories greatest weakness, right across practically all the demographics, is the NHS.
If Rishi Sunak is beginning to show signs of being more responsive to the crisis in the NHS it will be because of that, not because he fears the ERG.
I think you're attributing a degree of sanity to the present Tory party which simply doesn't exist. They're effectively now an ungovernable rabble who are having a temporary truce between the warring factions as having a fourth leader in as many months would look even more insane than it already does
It won't last, obviously
The fruitloops who've been wagging the dog for years now still won't accept that Truss's policies were a disaster, that Brexit is a disaster and that all the other ultra-libertarian Ayn Rand nonsense they champion is utter madness too. They simply believe their ridiculous conspiracy theory narrative that it just hasn't been done properly due to sabotage by remainers/liberals/the media etc, etc, etc, etc - fault lies everywhere else but with themselves
I know she's madder than a bucket of spiders and she probably wrote this as she opened her second bottle of gin, but her views are pretty representative of a large rump of the present Tory party...
https://twitter.com/NadineDorries/status/1612033575477547008?s=20&t=VCGKfUTdy5dXQyiNZRlUjw
They honestly believe that if the king overseas (on a speaking tour, lining his pockets) returns then he'll win the next election for them. They really are that unhinged. Just read the Mail article. The ramblings of an utter madwoman, but she's hardly alone in those views. Self-awareness or contact with reality isn't something that troubles these lunatics
I expect that catastrophic local election results in May will put paid to the temporary cessation of hostilities, but that once that happens then all hell will break loose again. Most of the country could be on strike by then at this rate too, because the headbangers won't stand for any compromise with the unions
Sunak will be gone by June and then its just a case of whether they succeed in reinstalling Boris or whether its someone even madder, like Braverman
Watching the Tory party eat itself would be a highly amusing spectator sport if the collateral damage to the rest of us wasn't so serious
Absolutely taking the piss now. Tory governance continues its attempt to stay one step ahead of the satirists...
Dear god?!!!! 😳
I suppose it was either him or the tractor bloke
https://twitter.com/johnjcrace/status/1612873196155305995?s=46&t=K7b6tnA2N3ERWRx1D1FwnQ
The first PMQ's of the year coming up. I expect Rishi will continue his Boris tribute act approach of completely ignoring any questions and just waffling his pre-prepared soundbites.
Given that even more strikes have been announced this morning, this complete refusal to even engage with the issues is going to look even more ridiculous than it does already
Hang on, it's a relatively sane decision! Most out of character.
Bridgen has been posting that tin-foil-helmeted, conspiracy-theory lunacy for months, if not years now
Rishi - in his usual horse/stable door way - has apparently now registered with an NHS GP. He's a man of the people, just like the rest of us now
Anyone listening to PMQs…?
Nope - I cannot bear to hear them speak. My telly / computer would get smashed as I get so angry. I'll read the transcript and analysis later
I'm getting angry just reading the quotes on the BBC live feed
Wise TJ. Sunak today would/should get anyone and everyone angry. Especially paramedics and nurses.
Wise TJ
words I never thought I would see on here 🙂
Don’t be daft, your contributions are often informative and enlightening. Just not always… 😘
Anyone listening to PMQs…?
I watched it, dunno why as Sunak doesn’t answer the questions.
If I’m ever stopped by the police/up in court I’m going to apply the Sunak defence of answering questions by attacking those asking the question, it’s a genius strategy that is bound to win me favour.
You could tell how bad it was. The utterly spineless speaker actually intervened and pointed out to him that it was Prime Minister Question, not Leader of the Oppositions Questions
A pity he didn't follow it up by actually making him answer the questions
Apart from that... Union Paymasters? Tick. Jeremy Corbyn? Tick. NHS Family? Tick. Blah, blah, blah...
Feet back up until next week, Boris-stylee, with maybe a private jet flight to a hospital
Feet back up until next week, Boris-stylee, with maybe a private jet flight to a hospital
or a ****ed up photo opportunity in a doctors surgery waiting room, asking a pensioner with a sprained wrist if she plays rugby.
Bridgen has been posting that tin-foil-helmeted, conspiracy-theory lunacy for months, if not years now
He went full on covid conspiracy just after he lost a few court cases
I'd lay money on him doing this for cash
Outrageous that he's not been suspended before now, the very worst type of MP
I’d lay money on him doing this for cash
That wouldn't surprise me in the least
There are a couple of Tory's that are worth following on Twitter because the stuff they post is so completely and utterly unhinged and preposterous as to be laughable. One is Andrew Bridgen and another is John Redwood.
I saw from that Sky MP's earnings' website the other day that John Redwood is one of the highest earners from dubious 'interests' outside parliament. So I'm sure his earnings and his propensity to spout utter rubbish aren't entirely unconnected.
Maybe Bridgen is aiming for that? Spewing out utter garbage would appear to be extremely lucrative
This is how Sungak answered a question of availability of nhs dentists earlier, his answer bares no ****ing relation to the question, Lindsay Hoyle needs a ****ing slap for letting him get away with such shite
https://twitter.com/thhamilton/status/1613192494665154562?s=61&t=OEu0ugrYy4HOYH9PwD9Dvw
He's going to have to get himself squeezed onto a Dentist's NHS books before next Wednesday, isn't he.
He’s going to have to get himself squeezed onto a Dentist’s NHS books before next Wednesday, isn’t he.
He’s going to get his teeth knocked out next PM’qs?, actually I’d pay to see that.
Maybe I'll get a dentist appointment if I ring up my GP then? Not been able to get an appointment for my dentist since before lockdown, no doubt the same for many people. I've been sent a letter to say no chance of getting one either so look elsewhere. Good old BUPA! I'll likely go private which also includes driving whereas I used to walk to my old dentist.
Its obvious Sunak is even more tin-eared, remote and detached from day-to-day reality than his predecessors.
He's actually managing to make David Cameron look down-to-earth and in touch with the common man
This lot are all the same though. They couldn't give a toss about the education system because all their kids are educated privately and they couldn't give a toss about the NHS because they all have private medical care. Train strike? Private jet. They're insulated from absolutely everything by their wealth and power.
They appear so sanguine and don't appear bothered about anything going on in the country at the moment because they have absolutely no skin in the game. Its like they're playing a video game. They make decisions and stuff happens, but it only happens to some hypothetical people who appear on their TV screens. Its not real because it won't ever have the slightest impact on them personally
TBH he's got an in-family GP 🙂
Its seems a sad hill to die on and the PMQ's sort of indicated that he probably needs to go to specsavers for a hearing test.
Even Marge said she went private.
I think its actually worse than that Binners
Many of them have a vested interest in selling off the NHS and many of them have an ideological hatred of it. Its not indifference. Its actively working to the end of the NHS
Many of them have a vested interest in selling off the NHS and many of them have an ideological hatred of it. Its not indifference. Its actively working to the end of the NHS
And the gullible fools who voted for Brexit or Tory in 2019 have accelerated this.
If you voted for Brexit or Tory in 2019 and have a problem with me calling you a gullible fool, tell me why you're happy for us all to lose access to free-at-source healthcare.
This was the Guardian headline when the UK government fully supported EU membership:
"Britain’s largest union is concerned trade deal would make privatisation of parts of the NHS irreversible"
The smear that anyone opposed to the EU doesn't support free healthcare is particularly offensive.
The NHS was founded many decades before the EU.
@binners I'm sure Redwood's outside interests include an FT investment column in which he famously recommended investing in the EU but outside Britain, which would definitely anger the prominent Brexiter John Redwood
He’s actually managing to make David Cameron look down-to-earth and in touch with the common man
TBH I can't believe we haven't seen pics of Rishi driving around in his Lambo.
This lot are all the same though. They couldn’t give a toss about the education system because all their kids are educated privately and they couldn’t give a toss about the NHS because they all have private medical care. Train strike? Private jet. They’re insulated from absolutely everything by their wealth and power.
This is the biggy.
He went full on covid conspiracy just after he lost a few court cases
I’d lay money on him doing this for cash
Outrageous that he’s not been suspended before now, the very worst type of MP
I'm really fascinated by Brigdens descent down the rabbit hole, his constituency isn't far away so he's on the local news a lot.
Yes, he's always been a hardline Tory, but his descent into full antivax intrigues me. He can't be doing it solely for money, he's had his already poor judgement tipped over an edge
The smear that anyone opposed to the EU doesn’t support free healthcare is particularly offensive.
Who said that? It was the exact opposite back in 2016. Many people voted Leave to save the NHS. They saw the posters, buses, videos... they completely support free healthcare and totally support the NHS. Unlike those who persuaded them to vote that way, who have shown their true colours since. Part of the Brexit bait and switch that got us to where we are now. What people voted for, and what it would enable, haven't proven to be the same thing. That's established now, yes? But it didn't stop after that vote... 40 new hospitals... everyone can vote for that, yes?
Oh... TTIP... if that was to ever to occur, and if it meant the end of free healthcare... the UK government would have to have allowed it. Just as they will if the same now happens in a UK/USA trade deal. Unite are right to watch the USA like a hawk when it comes to the NHS and trade deals. And our government for that matter.
Ah me microwave internet tv just blipped and I just missed that bloke from the inbetweeners saying something about illegal immigrants being the problem.
@somafunk not just mostly answering a different question but also spouting complete b****cks in the small part of the answer that related to the question.......
https://www.bda.org/news-centre/press-releases/Pages/PM-mythmaking-on-crisis-in-dentistry.aspx
Note the line " it would take an extra 1.5 billion / year to get nhs dentistry back to 2010 funding levels ...."
and people wonder why they cant find an nhs dentist......
