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Can someone pop into the bar and see if anyone's on the pool table?
The Hester scandal was handled very badly by Sunak, he's making the same errors as Johnson did at the end, as much as no tory MP thinks a leadership contest would be good for them, they'll not be enjoying the rolling scandals
if he's not careful , he'll end up with 53 no confidence letters by accident
He met with Graham Brady tonight, if it gets close do we think he'll roll the dice on an election in May?
Can someone pop into the bar and see if anyone’s on the pool table?
TJ has monopolised the pool table again, winner stays on and two shots carry except on black and you have to nominate a pocket. And there’s only one decent cue, don’t use the chalk, TJ dropped it into his pint by mistake.
Foosball table is free though, don’t pick red as the goalie just spins on the bar.
It and thevrest if stw is far to the right of any student political discussion i saw. Well to the right of the lefties i kno
The dreams, naivety and grinding down from real life quash the pure ideological stuff that we discussed as 18 year olds as we come to accept the country we live in and those pesky people that are allowed to vote and ruin everything.
Rishi is always crap at PMQ's but his insistance in defending the indefensible this week - re Frank Hesters comments that Dianne Abbot should be shot - really isn't going well. He's getting pasted from all sides and rightfully so!
What Rishi is basically saying is that if you give us a load of cash then you can do and say what the hell you like and we won't condemn you.
God only knows how politically clueless you have to be to think thats a good look
He met with Graham Brady tonight, if it gets close do we think he’ll roll the dice on an election in May?
We will know shortly, as I think the deadline to call a May election will be the end of this month?
My bet is they will hang on until the very last second (January 2025), salting the earth and raiding the wine cellar.
My bet is they will hang on until the very last second (January 2025), salting the earth and raiding the wine cellar.
Not a bad bet as they must know they are going to lose and that 20% that will always vote for them will still vote for them in January no matter how much more shit they get up to.
Also gives Stamer the time to make 10 or 20 more u turns that they will use against him along with any problems the Labour Party may have in that time.
Channel 4 news are saying that Rishi is definitely favouring a May election as looking at the potential numbers of letters going in, he won’t make it until the Autumn as the party is now completely ungovernable
Bring it on!
^^Well**** me.
I mean, we have got used to a completely corrupt and dysfunctional government unfortunately but this is extraordinary.
A country held hostage so some well paid Tory MP's that we are ment to trust the economy with can snuffle the truffle for a bit longer to pay off their coke dealer debts.
How the hell did we sink this low, this fast.
Rhetorical question.
How long we thinking before the Tories give back the £10 mil bung?
By Monday? Not at all?
Seems like there is more and more dissent amongst the Tory ranks.
Peston also reporting that Sunak intends to walk if there is a VONC in him!👍
Surely to god they can’t be seriously considering another leadership election, the unhinged bastards?
@ binners
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Surely to god they can’t be seriously considering another leadership election, the unhinged bastards?"
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Anyway...
I bet truss would throw her hat into the ring. That would be epic to witness! Also a little scary.
Might as well give Lizzie another go, eh? It went so well last time and would surely be a fitting end to the recent years of total lunacy
They’re actually mental enough to do it, aren’t they?
^^Well**** me.
I mean, we have got used to a completely corrupt and dysfunctional government unfortunately but this is extraordinary.
A country held hostage so some well paid Tory MP’s that we are ment to trust the economy with can snuffle the truffle for a bit longer to pay off their coke dealer debts.
I heard the other day (possibly on the private eye podcast related to the Rochdale elections) that it costs MPs about £30k on average to campaign just to get selected?
That's from their own (or personal donors) pockets before they're the candidate and get party funding for the actual campaign.
[Edit: if true, still a shitty thing to delay an election over]
@ binners. They absolutely are. I long for boring but functional politics again.
Amen to that. Remember the days when you could go a whole week without some catastrophically inept government **** up
A WHOLE WEEK!
^^ I can just about remember, but boy, does it seem a long time ago.lol
I'm just watching Peston and the Asda chairman/ Tory Peer, pretty much endorsing Labour for government.
Amazing to behold.
I’m just watching that. Even the occupants of the UKs boardrooms want this lot gone
Proof, if ever it were needed, that this is no longer the Tory party in anything but name. It’s a UKIP/BNP nationalist rabble
The Tory minions Rishi sent on to Peston tonight are doing well, aren’t they?
Dear god, it’s an absolute car crash!
They don’t even seem to be bright enough to understand they’ve been sent out to defend the indefensible or realise that Rishi will probably have rowed back from what they’re defending by tomorrow morning anyway, leaving them looking like total ****s
This government is just an absolute joke that isn’t remotely funny any more
You need a good heart....
Sorry- bit late, but re checking if the pool table in the Hull JCR is free, fraid not. Sarah Greene is on it with her drama tutor.
I’m just watching that. Even the occupants of the UKs boardrooms want this lot gone
That is because they now have nothing to fear from Labour as they won't be doing anything to upset them (see upcoming u turn on increased workers rights) while also not being so morally deficient which even those capitalist are finding hard to swallow these days.
The i leading on the donation scandal today with some interesting facts.
"21% of Conservative Party's election war chest comes from Frank Hester"
You could arguably say, he has bought and paid for the Tory party. The Tories are also refusing to say if he has made other donations to them... Which obviously means, yes, he has.
"You could arguably say, he has bought and paid for the Tory party. The Tories are also refusing to say if he has made other donations to them… Which obviously means, yes, he has."
Sunak's helicopter ride the other week, he paid £15k for that.
^^ Yep, there is bound to be more donations and freebies we dont know about yet, too.
I'm quite surprised Rishi had to borrow a helicopter.
Does he not have his own?
How frightful!
I'm surprised he's not shut a few hospitals to pay for a helipad on the roof of #10
I’m quite surprised Rishi had to borrow a helicopter.
Does he not have his own?
How frightful!
Why chip the edge of your own personal mountain of gold for personal helicopter use when racist misogynists will lend you theirs?
So going by the new guidelines on combating extremism... at least a few of them probably apply to individuals in the Tory party or the party itself.
How long till a leftie lawyer makes a statement by forcing the government through the courts to sanction, oh say,... an ex home secretary for promoting Islamophobia?
Some interesting numbers in the FT today showing how this is a zombie parliament, sitting for fewer hours, passing less legislation, the Tories not putting forward their MPs to debate issues etc.
Quotes from conservatives backing this up, including from ministers.
If you think to yourself about what they've actually done over the last 4 years - not just made anouncements about, but actually DONE - other than Mad Lizzie's mini-budget and cancelling HS2, can you think of anything?
They don't even pretend that whatever they anounce will ever happen any more. They just have a press conference and then its all just quietly dropped. To all intents and purposes we don't really have a government at the moment.
What is the point of Rishi Sunak? It seems even his own party is struggling to answer that.
Apparently the Tories have another 5 Million reasons to love Hester.
Those government contracts really are quite profitable!
If you think to yourself about what they’ve actually done over the last 4 years
They have continued to stir up hatred between groups and put racism and sexism back a few years. It is not about actual policies or changing anything in people lives - other than their mates such as Hester of course.
If you think to yourself about what they’ve actually done over the last 4 years
Everything has been kicked into the long grass. Legislation looking at legalising e-scooters was supposed to be done by now, that's now "an extension of the existing trial".
There was a heat pump policy supposed to be starting next month, that's now been put back a year.
All sorts of stuff that, if it had actually been done, would have given confidence to the markets. As it is, costs have increased, projects put on hold, uncertainty rules.
And the policies that they are trying to push like Rwanda are expensive and unworkable. 🤷🏻♂️
predictably
https://twitter.com/PippaCrerar/status/1768345435721134342?t=fo63jHXfO5yIcCTdcS8cog&s=19
Shit summer ahead then. Best just to switch off and ignore everything UK party political ‘till autumn. We’re like a ship adrift.
Ok. So going to hold on till the bitter end then.
I hope they get bloody annilated at the GE.
Already ignoring my own comment… I hope they get a drubbing so big in all the May elections that the feeling that they are squatters in government just grows and grows to the point where even “balanced” media interviewers start challenging Sunak about his legitimacy to remain PM… when no one wants him there, including those who voted for his party under Johnson during the old days of Brexit fever.
kelvin
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Shit summer ahead then. Best just to switch off and ignore everything UK party political ‘till autumn. We’re like a ship adrift.
Going to be a truly nasty campaign. The Tories will use every dirty trick they can muster. I wouldn't be at all surprised if an MP on either side is met by violence of some sort.
There is a lot of anger out there and the Tories have no qualms about stiring it up further.
Any chance of a coup?
predictably
Yep. Never made any sense to me either.
Sunak alluded to Autumn ages ago.
Just in time for lower interest rates. Although things will be pretty bad by then irrespective.
Poopscoop
Full MemberSo going by the new guidelines on combating extremism… at least a few of them probably apply to individuals in the Tory party or the party itself.
How long till a leftie lawyer makes a statement by forcing the government through the courts to sanction, oh say,… an ex home secretary for promoting Islamophobia?
It'll be like Prevent. First time I ever heard of anyone actually doing a Prevent report, it was for a scary incelly white supremacist kid. File was closed almost immediately, no explanation. They raised it again, file closed, no explanation. Raised it again, got a tetchy phone call from a senior manager complaining that this was deliberate wasting of his time and that Prevent was "not for cases like this" Oh so what is it for? "Um, er, different things".