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Gove reallly is a smarmy, self-serving little shit. Man who's party has constantly stoked division for its own ends now complaining about rising division.
This lot have pandered to racists, weaponised nasty petty nationalism and constantly stoked the right wing flames by 'othering' minority groups. Saner heads told them repeatedly that you can't just flirt with the far right when it suits you. Once you've let that particular genie out of the bottle, you can't just pop it back in again once its served its purpose.
And so its turned out. The Tory party has now become some mutant hybrid of UKIP and the BNP. All moderate voices have been purged or silenced and the people setting the mood are lunatics like Braverman and Badanoch. Whats still vile, though we've now become used to it, is that its these children of immigrants (including Sunak) now showing the very hardest of hearts and fuelling undisguised scapegoating and hatred towards 'The Other'
Coming back nicely to the children's services point earlier, another aspect of the nasty racist culture war blows up in their faces - a fact that anyone connected to child protection could have told you since forever.
BBC News - Child abusers often family and other kids – police
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/czkk41jxpx0o
This infected blood victim compensation scheme is going to cost (tens of) billions. I wonder how they're going to pay for it?
Looked-after children services are often hamstrung by regulation and local authorities though. Partly, charitable providers are being forced out the sector becasue of the onerous requirements of both local authority guidelines and organisations like the CQC and Care Commissioners in Scotland and Wales who are imposing stricter and stricter [and more and more costly] controls that organisations (apart from those who’re are very well funded) find it increasingly more difficult to meet and manage.
Let's not forget that a lot of issues like that are down to lack of money, and that's the fault of central government.
If the public sector paid really well, people would be fighting each other to get jobs in it and we'd end up with a much more effective organisation.
Let’s not forget that a lot of issues like that are down to lack of money, and that’s the fault of central government.
Absolutely - grant reductions of 30% to 22 (including a bit of Covid spending uptick.) District Councils are currency users and Central Government is a currency issuer. (So DCs have to raise money - like States in the US.)
Damage done for absolutely political reasons rather than real financial constraints at the Central Government side of things.
they won’t they’ll kick the can down the road again then it’s someone else’s problem.
Tax cuts? & then make it a Labour problem
Think you've both missed the point I'm making. 😏
Sunak has already said they'll pay whatever it costs and all the victims and their families will be able to claim. That could be 30,000 - 100,000 people all getting substantial amounts of 6 to 7 figures. Add that to the post office compensation scheme the govt is going to be paying tens of billions in compensation. Labour are supporting the payments so I ask again, where's the money coming from?
Labour are supporting the payments so I ask again, where’s the money coming from?
Never you mind, we will find it. You just remember the country cannot afford for people to have better services.
You would think it would be an easy sell wouldn't you - vote for me and the services will all be better funded but don't worry about where the money is coming from as you wouldn't understand it anyway and you shouldn't concern yourself with it.
And in more good news for the government
BBC News - Move to extend police protest powers ruled unlawful
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-69043611
So this crack pot government once again gets handed it's arse because it was too lazy and incompetant to follow the tried and tested rules for creating laws.
Yes and no.
It was passed last year and I suspect will have suppressed peoples willingness to protest since then.
So whilst obviously passing a proper law would be more sensible given the difficulty of that and how little the tories care about spending taxpayers money having this in place for a year but then having to cough up compensation is the next best thing for them.
As ever, a conflict with the courts is exactly what they want.
Plenty of people will still fall for it, millions will still vote tory 🤷
LeFtY lAwYeRs!on!E
I see the ‘Party of Lawnorder’ has told the police to stop arresting people 😂
Never you mind, we will find it. You just remember the country cannot afford for people to have better services
Of course we will - it's an act of Parliament just only when it suits.
Water companies and dismal regulation doing their thing to cement the absolute failure of privatisation. I wonder what pragmatism would look like here... hmm.
Once again the government can pay or the public can pay. But whilst muppets support the tax payer myth we will keep passing the buck to the consumer to deal with. Thames is goner.
Inflation down as expected - who knew it would eventually come down, but expect Fishi to go on a his scripted soap box about the success of his team.
Scary LOL at the utter economic failure of our system to serve its people, and people not really given an electoral choice to remove this economic mess.
https://twitter.com/RichardJMurphy/status/1792807000067252638?t=A9N1TSPFAtCUL5iTsDv_Qw&s=19
I see the ‘Party of Lawnorder’ has told the police to stop arresting people 😂
I thought they already were at that point.
No, we were previously at the point where they’d told the courts not to convict people, now they’ve decided to cut the supply off at source by stopping the initial arrest in the first place
In a way it’s genius! I look forward to them announcing that there is now no crime in the UK as nobody has been arrested for or convicted of any crimes at all
What's next... telling ambulances not to take people to hospital because they're f...
..oh.
It tells you everything you need to know about the present state of the Tory party that Hunt - a man who always appears to be in the midst of a prostrate examination - is considered their biggest political heavyweight.
Hes an imbecile, but everything’s relative
speculating again about a GE
I wonder if he will announce a date today for an autumn one, just to stop the gossip
speculating again about a GE
I wonder if he will announce a date today for an autumn one, just to stop the gossip
Interesting.
Today might the *best* ahem - economic window they may get. Inflation is likely to tick up again and they're all over Twitter with their lying **** banner of crushing inflation.
I would say it's unlikely but probably the most possible window of short term phoney positivity they will get.
The BoE was looking like pivoting on interest rates back in March and May - but have since dragged their stupidly stubborn heels.
Dunno - I think these gossips often turn out to be nothing. Probably an announcement how they've squashed inflation (give us a break.)
The Tories aren't even in control of the economy other than letting it be out of control.
We knew inflation would reset when supply caught up.
Cul-de-sac economics.
A potential interest rate cut to 5.00% in June would be an epoch-defining success by post-Covid standards...
As mentioned on JoB this morning, an early July election would land around the Euro 24 quarter or semi final so possible timed to jump on the band wagon? Also falls in to the second half of the year, which is what that funny, little man just said in PMQ's.
I see the ‘Party of Lawnorder’ has told the police to stop arresting people
I read a while ago that according to "un-named senior conservative sources" they were warned about this happening repeatedly since 2010, and just didn't give a hoot about it.
Inflation is likely to tick up again
How long before the recent increase in the Minimum Wage takes to impact inflation?
Sunak is being extremely oblique about the possibility of a GE. Keeps saying "the second half of the year" which is a nonsense reply cos it can't possibly be in the first half of the year cos we're nearly in June already.
Like saying "Brexit means Brexit".
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The Tories aren’t even in control of the economy other than letting it be out of control.
I thought that was the whole point of Tory economics. To try and exert any sort of control is communism or something
How long before the recent increase in the Minimum Wage takes to impact inflation?
Not so sure. Lower wages are sucked up by the cost of living increases currently.
Interest income to the rich has likely been part of inflation equation recently.
A potential interest rate cut to 5.00% in June would be an epoch-defining success by post-Covid standards.
Yeah I've been saying that one for a while. That gonna happen at some point shortly. Although they would be ahead of the Fed which remains hawkish on rates.
Either way spin will be spun. And election timing will be part of it.
BoE should have been cutting a while ago but they've can't give up their ridiculous logic, and not looked to have failed.
How long before the recent increase in the Minimum Wage takes to impact inflation?
It probably won't. We have to have two upcoming inflation spikes likely, both supply side... food* and energy** again. If they don't fall on us at the same time, and the government can time the election right, it'll look like a return to "normal" for inflation for just long enough for it to help them...
* too wet in UK, too dry elsewhere, plus more Brexit costs coming
** lower energy prices unlikely to be maintained to the end of the year
if sunak gets out the podium and announces the cones hotline Mk2 this evening its going to be very annoying
https://twitter.com/PickardJE/status/1793270219533586856
No more false hope, please...name the date so we can all have a farewell and F- off party.
Probably just going to be a reshuffle to create the Minister for Prisoners Doing Time at Home or some other innovation...
Worth remembering July is the second half of the year.
if sunak gets out the podium and announces the cones hotline Mk2 this evening its going to be very annoying
🤣
Or we've got to stock up on beans because they've made the world so dangerous.
Panasonic are announcing a new full frame camera at 15:00 maybe he's doing that?
Ok, I'm calling it, it's going to be a Summer election. 👍😁
Im going for him naming a date in the autumn
are there any techbro CEO jobs that have suddenly become vacant in Silicon Valley?
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Im going for him naming a date in the autumnare there any techbro CEO jobs that have suddenly become vacant in Silicon Valley?
I suspect he'll market himself as an AI expert over there, billions of dollars going that way at the moment and Sunak loves his dosh.
Helps him avoid having to talk to the working class.
Rishi: I've called this press conference to tell you that we have a plan, and that Labour doesn't. And we've turned a corner and plan to keep delivering for hard working people...
This morning's inflation figure and marginally-revised growth figure is going to be the economic high point of the next six months, probably.
looks like July 4th
Can we hurry up and move on, please?
PMQs today sounded completely back to front... with everyone knowing they are on the wrong benches.
I was going to take the day after the election off just to ostentatiously celebrate, but will be on holiday anyway if it's early July. The sonofapitch does it just to spite me, I'm sure!
I've been on holiday the last two times we've had a change in PM, I've got a holiday booked for the 29th june -6th july just saying.
This morning’s inflation figure and marginally-revised growth figure is going to be the economic high point of the next six months, probably.
Correct.
This is the whole balloon of their campaign. That voters don't like inflation.
(inflation didn't come in as low as expected BTW and will probably return, and growth is weak.)
5 pm presser, most of the press calling it for July
Well 5ish. Wish he would get a move on and put us all of out his misery.
Squash the student vote, hope the middle aged are lost in summer activities, rely on the oldies turning out no matter what.
If Sunak & Hunt want to hang their hat on the economy, they have a very tight window where figures look good (in the press but not the real world).
All makes sense to me.
But I hope they lose by even more than the current polls suggest.
Don't get complacent and go for the "they're all the same, so I'm not voting" or the "the Tories have lost anyway, so I can freely vote for third/fourth/fifth placed candidate to make a point"... everything can fall apart in the voting booths... Sunak can still win.
4 million people screaming at their radios right now as Sunak claims he looked after us all during Covid, when in fact it left them out on a limb.
Didn't expect his announcement to have a soundtrack...
So its official, July 4th.
"seized the opportunities of Brexit to make this the best country in the word to build a small business" ... what a cheeky ####!
Things can only get better blasting out in the background 🤣🤣🤣
Are the tech companies really going to employ him? With his record?
With his record?
With his wifes money and his and her connections?
Tech company no but he would definitely be an asset for the tech adjacent venture capitalists/hedge funds
He'll have a contact list second to none.
Anyway, that sounded like a resignation speech.
It's not what you know but who you know. Former prime ministers (and deputy prime ministers) can do very well by relying on the phone numbers stored in their mobiles.
Edit: Sorry for some reason I missed the first sentence in Kelvin's previous post. The point was already made.
@kelvin It’s about three weeks before schools break up in England so lots of the middle aged will still be around. Not sure where studes are generally registered these days, I was registered at home I think,
Thank god, top trolling from the people with the sound system.
The speech was horrific and looking like the drowned rat he is didn't help.
Just realised I may be abroad, might fly out that day and vote early.
That speech was a gift to political sketch writers up there with May's p45 conference one.
Allegedly tory MPs were told to space out their standing down announcements over the summer so it didn't look like a flood and rumours of more about to defect too
They won't be pleased by this, will we see a flurry now?
The point was already made.
Yeah, but you explained it.
It’s about three weeks before schools break up in England so lots of the middle aged will still be around.
Not for years 11 & 13. Or Universities, lots of colleges, etc...
But I wasn't necessarily thinking of people with kids still at school, more those slightly older... getting breaks in before the school holidays push the prices up... they are still less likely to vote Conservative... unlike the retired.
Thank god, top trolling from the people with the sound system.
Steve Bray. They've changed laws and reorganised how they film broadcast because of him. He... does... not... give... in....
will we see a flurry now?
🤞🏻
Seeing mention of holidays, students etc. fills me with fear that the bastards will win through complacency. Get voting early folks https://www.gov.uk/apply-postal-vote
https://www.gov.uk/apply-postal-vote
Well I was miles off, confidently predicting an October GE.. 🙂
Are the tech companies really going to employ him? With his record?
If Nick Clegg can score a tech sector gig job Lil' Rishi is well in. It's not like he's going to be straight down the Job centre on July 5th is it.
A tech bro who's previously held the top job in Blighty and can hook up you data analytics outfit with thr right procurement managers in various public services is worth his weight in gold to the right companies (for a couple of years at least)...
I can honestly say I'm not looking forward to the next six weeks though, a month and a half of intense culture warring doesn't appeal anymore...
I can honestly say I’m not looking forward to the next six weeks though, a month and a half of intense culture warring doesn’t appeal anymore…
I can see blood being spilt.
Well I was miles off, confidently predicting an October GE
Tbf it's absolute madness to go for one in July, at best he can hope reform can't get their candidates in place, but many of his own MPs apparently very upset at this last minute u-turn, so much for sticking to the plan!
I'm wondering if the polls will narrow at all
Sounds like not all the tories have been selected either and sounds like there are still more to stand down. That's going to look good during an election campaign
^^ lol, excellent trolling. 👍😁
@ratherbeintobago Scotland will already be on holiday by that point. Can't speak for Wales or NI.
Steve Bray.
The hero we need!
Labour have no plan, says the chap outside his front door without a brolly.
@squirrelking I had it in my head Scotland was two weeks before England at both ends of the holiday - do they finish the Friday before the election? IIRC NI and Wales aren’t that different to England.
Do they even have candidates ready to replace all those standing down?
https://twitter.com/christopherhope/status/1793354876396744756?t=EJh6e0WDSm085AWAH5Zrng&s=19
Anyway, that sounded like a resignation speech.
Exactly this. It was an attempt at a legacy speech, not a 'here's what we'll do next' speech. It's fabulous, he's not there to campaign properly, to offer a vision, to engage with the public. He's there to do the bare minimum over the next six weeks and then disappear.