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This is the pinnacle / crescendo / climax of 13 years of conservative leadership.....


 
Posted : 04/10/2023 2:27 pm
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if I was a northerner I wouldn’t be too worried just yet, the tories are finished for a good few years to come (hopefully decades)

The damage they've caused to the North, mostly through austerity cuts, won't be fixed easily, if at all.

I'm not worried, I'm just  sick of seeing the place I live being degraded by these lying shitbags


 
Posted : 04/10/2023 2:29 pm
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Saying "the previous government were crap, I'm the man to fix it" when you have been part of that government since 2015, and the government is actually still in power, is Orwellian doublespeak overdriven to 11.

Dangerous times.


 
Posted : 04/10/2023 2:31 pm
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This is from a Manchester Tory MP

https://twitter.com/william_wragg/status/1709479700618186831?s=46&t=1lK7Dw1b6RqGJyvufO-trQ


 
Posted : 04/10/2023 2:32 pm
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And we’re back to everyone doing maths until 18 again, are we?

Nah, just you lot in England. There are four different education systems and governments in the UK (thankfully).

They’re going to stop Universities enrolling students on courses that ‘don’t add value’

Who’s going to be the judge of that then?

Maths of course is what we should all study at uni - are you listening Geography and Art students?


 
Posted : 04/10/2023 2:33 pm
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The look of a supporting wife - ooft


 
Posted : 04/10/2023 2:39 pm
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It’s all a bit mad in it.

One minute they’re all moaning about ‘the nanny state’, then they’re cheering him for telling everyone what subjects they’re going to study

Not so much policies as just incoherent ramblings


 
Posted : 04/10/2023 2:40 pm
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Ah don't be nasty, she has just seen the likelihood of her way access to power in the uk go up in smoke after next year. How else will she continue to make millions


 
Posted : 04/10/2023 2:43 pm
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Not really following this too much, but surely labour will just reinstate HS2 as soon as they are voted in? Obviously that’ll cause huge delays and additional costs, but ultimately it’s still going to be built?

Not when SKS is promising to stick to tory financial targets.

They’re going to stop Universities enrolling students on courses that ‘don’t add value’

Who’s going to be the judge of that then?

No doubt studying "the classics" or PPE at oxbridge won't be affected.


 
Posted : 04/10/2023 2:48 pm
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One minute they’re all moaning about ‘the nanny state’, then they’re cheering him for telling everyone what subjects they’re going to study

Its perfectly coherent.
Nanny state is anyone telling me what to do vs leadership which is me telling you what you can or cant do.


 
Posted : 04/10/2023 2:49 pm
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I wasn't watching any of that because I wouldn't have been able to cope. I have however caught the BBC text coverage of it.

The swear filter on here would break if I said what I want to say.

I'll just sum up with ****ing Tory SCUM


 
Posted : 04/10/2023 2:53 pm
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Didn't take him long...


 
Posted : 04/10/2023 2:54 pm
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* him and * all of them who just whooped and cheered. My family has someone in it who he just said didn’t * exist. The *.

**** them. I hate them more than I can possibly say.

+1.

I wrote a few weeks ago that the sports issue was the tip of the iceberg; this is now clear and present danger. ****s


 
Posted : 04/10/2023 3:09 pm
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Posted : 04/10/2023 3:28 pm
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^ crushingly accurate. 🙁


 
Posted : 04/10/2023 3:48 pm
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So the sitting PM is the candidate for change? Holy crap, that's some mental gymnastics there.😂

The tank is empty, they have nothing left.


 
Posted : 04/10/2023 4:08 pm
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The tank is empty, they have nothing left.<br /><br />

The tank is full, unfortunately it is a slurry tank and they’re driving up and down the country with the agitator on full bore spreading foul smelling shit over everything they touch 


 
Posted : 04/10/2023 4:12 pm
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"He’s solved the net zero problem apparently"

I was in the car, and at that point swore and switched off the radio - I'd already sworn, but couldn't listen any more.


 
Posted : 04/10/2023 4:20 pm
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I've only just seen his throwaway remark about Nicola Sturgeon 'going down for other reasons'. Unless he knows differently, she has not currently been charged with any offence, which makes this potentially a massively defamatory statement delivered with the eyes of the nation on him. The innuendo that she has been involved in criminal activity is very obvious.

Unlike the House of Commons, where he is free to defame Keir Starmer on a weekly basis, there is no parliamentary privilege here.

If the criminal investigation into Sturgeon peters out, I hope she takes him to the cleaners.


 
Posted : 04/10/2023 4:29 pm
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Rishi Sunak's commitment to "change" doesn't sit comfortably with his claim that he doesn't need a fresh mandate from voters as according to him Boris Johnson's 2019 mandate is still valid.

Opposition parties should be demanding that he calls an early general election to put these allegedly new ideas to the British people.

If he hasn't got any new ideas then he obviously isn't offering change.


 
Posted : 04/10/2023 4:56 pm
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I think this is a first, but I’ve found myself in agreement with ‘Dave’

https://twitter.com/david_cameron/status/1709579002220867922?s=46&t=1lK7Dw1b6RqGJyvufO-trQ


 
Posted : 04/10/2023 5:05 pm
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Labour Party conference next week so surely all they need to do is promise to reinstate HS2 and not be quite as batshit mental as the Tories and it should be a pushover...?

Surely?

Please, for the love of God, let there be at least a chink of light...


 
Posted : 04/10/2023 5:12 pm
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David Cameron approved HS2 two years into his premiership, it shouldn't come as any surprise that he doesn't support the latest development which obviously undermines what he must see as his legacy.

Btw what is David Cameron's legacy? I can't think of much apart from brexit and giving austerity a bad name.


 
Posted : 04/10/2023 5:17 pm
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We can but hope.  This will be the big test for Starmer, he's got an open goal and a few days to plan his move.  If he doesn't convincingly smack it squarely in the back of the net then he's put himself on the back foot for the election.


 
Posted : 04/10/2023 5:18 pm
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so surely all they need to do is promise to reinstate HS2

You would have thought so, unfortunately recent history suggests that Labour under Keir Starmer strongly criticises decisions made but the current Tory government before eventually announcing that a Labour government would very reluctantly do exactly the same as the Tories as they would not, apparently, have any other choice.

So I wouldn't count on it.


 
Posted : 04/10/2023 5:22 pm
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https://twitter.com/jamesrbuk/status/1709548470015561781?t=s3MUeFNecmYxHtFBQcxjiw&s=19

If this true the HS2 is getting scuttled


 
Posted : 04/10/2023 5:43 pm
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Labour won't be able to...the government is rushing to sell off the compulsory purchased land north of Crewe and possibly Euston too.


 
Posted : 04/10/2023 5:43 pm
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Labour should also announce that the will investigate the rushed sale of the land when they come into power and the corruption around it. It smells of another PPE level scandal to me, if anyone was wondering how they would attempt to benefit their donors by cancelling the link, I think we now have the answer.


 
Posted : 04/10/2023 5:47 pm
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No one will want to buy it if Labour makes a strong commitment.

A Labour government will be able to pass legislation just like Tory governments can.


 
Posted : 04/10/2023 5:47 pm
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Labour won’t be able to…the government is rushing to sell off the compulsory purchased land north of Crewe and possibly Euston too.

I don't have enough swear words in my vocabulary.

No one will want to buy it if Labour makes a strong commitment.

Please can they do this at their conference next week...


 
Posted : 04/10/2023 5:52 pm
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No one will want to buy it if Labour makes a strong commitment.

Depends, buy now in a corrupt fire sale, then sell at a profit with another compulsory purchase later on at market rates. I think labour have to do more than make a strong commitment to HS2, they have to make a strong commitment to prosecute corruption.


 
Posted : 04/10/2023 5:53 pm
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How ****ed off are the red wallers?
Will this finally rip the ****s in two?


 
Posted : 04/10/2023 5:56 pm
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This really is just scorched earth now, isn't it

We know we're *ed so lets smash everything up before we leave

They're utter utter *s!


 
Posted : 04/10/2023 5:56 pm
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This really is just scorched earth now, isn’t it

I have just wondered what is next to be cleared out before the election. What else can they burn and sell to prevent Labour from doing anything.

I thought Brexshit was a period of self harm - seems that some want a second go at harming ourselves again.


 
Posted : 04/10/2023 6:02 pm
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the government is rushing to sell off the compulsory purchased land north of Crewe and possibly Euston too.

Uh huh. Who is it getting sold to and for what?
10% of donations to the tories since 2010 being from the building industry might be worth a review when it gets sold off. Especially the Euston stuff.

Overall a good conference I think. Just think mad nad was desperately trying to get her book out before it in order to try and damage Sunak. Probably happy now the lawyers had a nervous breakdown and needed some more time so she can aim at Christmas instead.


 
Posted : 04/10/2023 6:07 pm
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How the hell do they get away with it...


 
Posted : 04/10/2023 6:13 pm
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another compulsory purchase later on at market rates.

Market rate less discount. If they knowingly engage in profiteering despite knowing the most likely policies of the next government then it is their responsibility if want to take the risk.

Profiteering should never be rewarded and legislation to minimise it is entirely reasonable.


 
Posted : 04/10/2023 6:14 pm
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^^^
How would Labour announcing that HS2 will go ahead affect the price of the land to be sold off?


 
Posted : 04/10/2023 6:20 pm
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How the hell do they get away with it…<br /><br />

because they get to write the law at the time it happens and there is nothing anyone can do to stop any government doing it. Those who write the law make sure their dodgy deals are legal even if they are never moral


 
Posted : 04/10/2023 6:20 pm
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Profiteering should never be rewarded and legislation to minimise it is entirely reasonable.

Aside from then you hit the "its now private property and stopping the plundering is practically communism" plus issues with it being retroactive.
Would really need labour to stand up now and announce a firm policy on it. Aside from anything else it would probably put the disaster capitalists off.
Wonder if Houchen and the STDC are looking to branch out into new areas of public land to sell/rent under dubious looking conditions.


 
Posted : 04/10/2023 6:22 pm
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With all the talk of HS2, it was easy to miss this utter mentalness from Penny Mordaunt

I think the sword carrying and looking like an extra from Game of Thrones has gone to her head a bit

Bonkers!

https://twitter.com/bmay/status/1709560409156440266?s=46&t=1lK7Dw1b6RqGJyvufO-trQ


 
Posted : 04/10/2023 6:31 pm
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Here’s another batshit crazy speech from the conference, Penny kebab sword bearer Mordaunt wants the conservatives to stand up and fight…..

Fair enough, I’m game for a scrap with her, will it be Queensbury rules or can I go in tooled up with a sword?

https://twitter.com/bmay/status/1709560409156440266?s=20


 
Posted : 04/10/2023 6:34 pm
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I've not seen it on here but Owen Jones' conference ditty is fantastic.

Lee Anderson OMFG. Vile. Given he's only 10 miles from me I've got a good mind to round up some locals and bus him over some poverty.


 
Posted : 04/10/2023 6:36 pm
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A Labour government will be able to pass legislation just like Tory governments can.

They won't though , the Tories have a majority government. I can't see labour getting that can you ?
At best the next GE will produce another hung parliament


 
Posted : 04/10/2023 6:38 pm
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Just meaningless waffle from Mordaunt to the party faithful to energize them. I didn't find it particularly peculiar, it's what they want to hear. I reckon she has all the making of a party Leader.


 
Posted : 04/10/2023 6:42 pm
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