Thinking about the present crises and the number of country's that fail their own people.
Failed states who can not offer their people the basic human rights of law, order, security, should be administered from out side say by the (blank)or some such body and made to pay for it.
Discuss.
I know. Let's bomb them to restore order. Drones only mind.
Grocer's apostrophes cannot help reugees outside.
Ah we can simply send in a crack team of elite civil servants with some big boxes of law and order and whip them into shape.
So its fine to let people like Assad destabilize all around them ?
Not at all but what are you actually proposing? We invade and replace their government?
We policed Ireland until peace and serbia/Bosnia UN peace keepers have made a big difference in other areas.
We kept the Rwanadan refugees in Zaire Burundi and Tanzania in camps on the borders untill they returned I know I worked in those camps.
The result of to many ref,s in Europe may well bring a right wing backlash at the polls lurching Europe to the far right
Offer some ideas!
Whose idea of law, order and security? In essence you're backing a particular side, which inevitably will be the rebel cause (otherwise you wouldn't be there)
So bring back the British Empire? Not going to happen. The only alt is to let countries make their own mistakes.
We kept the Rwanadan refugees in Zaire Burundi and Tanzania in camps on the borders untill they returned I know I worked in those camps.
Nothing wrong with humanitarian support.
We policed Ireland until peace
Nth Ireland is part of the UK. Our people, our problem. The whole world isn't. It is a short step for an army to go from welcome peacemakers to hated occupiers.
Your neighbour has a large extended family that fight all the time half the family push down your fence and move in with you demanding food shelter money etc
You
A.give them what you have?
B.call the police?
In a modern connected world you can not sit back and do nothing leaving country,s to become rogue harbouring crime finnancing terrorism etc
In the Uk you have a naturel border uncrossable by most, other countr,s dont have this luxury.
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Offer some ideas!
Aye the police were never part of the problem there! 😆wicki - Member
We policed Ireland until peace
In a modern connected world you can not sit back and do nothing leaving country,s to become rogue harbouring crime finnancing terrorism etc
So we head into Syria, who do we take down, the Chemical Weapon wielding dictator or the terrorists who want to kill the non believers, once we get rid of both and end up pissing off a load of other people who live there what should we call the new bunch of people/terrorists/freedom fighters?
and serbia/Bosnia UN peace keepers have made a big difference in other areas.
They did a great job in [url= https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Srebrenica_massacre ]Srebrenica[/url]
Have you any thoughts on how many blue-helmeted good guys would be needed to police the two bunches of psychotic, genocidal lunatics, armed up to the teeth, and bombing the **** out of each other in Syria? Or which countries army, after watching them behead people, of burn them in cages, would be first to volunteer to stand in the middle of them and say "ay... ay... just calm down"?
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