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Just reminiscing about my Integra Type-R and the joys / challenges of keeping it above 7,000rpm but not hitting the limiter at 8,600rpm for as long as possible down any given road.
After this resulted in a month on public transport I am now a reformed character
disl Yeti, round to the red line regularly when appropriate in lower gears.
strangely I don’t suffer from DPF issues.......
Used to quite often in the Citroen not so much in the Lolvo, not much point when it produces more torque at 1200 rpm than peak in the Xsara.
I have found that an Italian tune up every now and again prevents EGR build up problems in diesels. Almost certainly the case in the wife's Cooper S that suffered with coked up engine and would run better after it was thrashed.
Yes, occasionally. 13 year old 5 series Touring 2.5 diesel - 212k miles...
The Ovlov see the redline occasionally just to open her up on a couple bit of National Speed Limit dual carriage way when pulling on off roundabouts etc, usually in 2nd as it'll do 66-67 @ 6700RPM and 70ish just before it bounces off the limiter.
Once in a while it'll happen demonstrating to naive boy racers who don't know what an S60R is that Volvos can go quite quickly...
I'm driving my wife's C2 with the eco-strangled 1.0 engine (0-60 in 16 seconds). I hit the redline by accident just in normal driving because it is so slow.It's such a crappy undriveable little engine as well, I don't think it has enough torque to pull my foreskin back. There's absolutely nothing below about 3500 RPM. Then the bloody redline is 6000. You have to constantly drive round revving it up looking like a boy racer **** just to go at normal speeds.
Pretty much what I was going to say. I've driven crappy little cars that you had to keep your foot to the floor to get up slight inclines, so they would have spent a deal of time in or tending towards the red.
Years ago I had a series of normally aspirated 1.8D Fiestas as a company car, they were about the single most gutless thing I've ever driven. I often hit the rev limiter on the hateful things, and when you did that it immediately dropped the power as though you'd totally lifted off the accelerator. Great design, really focused the mind if you were in the middle of an overtake at the time.
These days though, in a modern car with a competent engine there's little point even when overtaking. I can't remember the last time I looked at the rev counter, even.
0.8l car with a family and camping gear inside, going up birker fell from ulpha, pretty sure I got close to red line there.
205 mi16 launching, the sound of it bouncing the limiter was awesome.
"Years ago I had a series of normally aspirated 1.8D Fiestas as a company car, they were about the single most gutless thing I've ever driven. I often hit the rev limiter on the hateful things, and when you did that it immediately dropped the power as though you'd totally lifted off the accelerator. "
Loved mine as a first car.....you had to actually drive it.
Like someone else in this thread, I used to have an Alfa Romeo with a proper V6 in it, so it was rude not to redline it. Indeed, travelling through the Dartford Tunnel at the 50mph limit in second gear with all the windows down was absolutely necessary.
Before that, I owned a Mk2 Golf 16v, which pulled all the way to the rev limiter, so that too was redlined regularly.
These days, I drive a 1.9 turbodiesel...
My mechanic tells me hard acceleration helps keep the egr/dpf etc running well...
All the excuse I need!
The GF hates my mechanic;-)
On the occasions (rare) that i get something fun to play with at work, yes.
On a test track.
Last one was a Panamera.
Before that was the Polestar C30.
One was fun, one was dull.
One wonders... Why wouldn't you?
I had the impression that engines were designed to be used through their rev range. I wouldn't redline my car through every gear change, but occasionally on most journeys the engine will be run through its entire range.
Just seems normal to me. But then I came from a (straight four) motorbike background before cars.. So..
Pretty sure that's how the designers of my old Toyota felt. the red line was a very thin sliver right at the end. They put a bit of 'are you sure' orange where most put redI had the impression that engines were designed to be used through their rev range.
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What did you think of the Polestar C30 out of interest?
I had a S40 T5 AWD with the B5254T engine tune to 300bhp and I was thinking of doing the same to a C30 but wasn't sure of the handing and whether it would put the power down etc.
Just seems normal to me. But then I came from a (straight four) motorbike background before cars.. So..
I think you may actually be me. Its this that I blame my propensity for wringing everythings neck until it explodes
no_eyed_deer - MemberOne wonders... Why wouldn't you?
Because in loads of cars peak power and peak torque plateau or fall off before the redline so you are just making noise and burning fuel. Plus a lot of turbo cars have a hard limiter so if you actually hit the redline it'll cut boost and cause rapid deceleration.
Does making noise not qualify as a good enough reason in its own right?
Years ago I had a series of normally aspirated 1.8D Fiestas as a company car, they were about the single most gutless thing I've ever driven
+1
Spent every journey getting mercilessly mown down by buses and HGVs
COME ONNNNNNNNNNN! F***********************ING GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Berlingo - No
Clio RS - Yes, well I assume so, I'm not looking at the clocks I wait of the shift beep, it's how it's desighned to be driven.
My Nissan NV400 doesn't get much beyond 3500rppm - but in the past I had 3 cars which all went into the red on a regular basis - Lancia Beta HPE - sweet reving beauty on twin down draught Webbers, BMW 525i throaty rumble peerless and my Mitsuibishi Colt 1.1 3cyl - like a sewing machine, just great fun.
Pretty sure that's how the designers of my old Toyota felt. the red line was a very thin sliver right at the end. They put a bit of 'are you sure' orange where most put red
Reminds me, used to rally with a chap who had a 1300cc Sirion Rally 2. Ugly as sin, but they're revvy little critters. Redline was 9k rpm, we had the needle the wrong side of the redline a few times, no limiter. 10,000k rpm in a car. Madness. Like a bike engine.
[quote="one_happy_hippy"]What did you think of the Polestar C30 out of interest?
Absolutely ****ing barmy. It was about 430-450 BHP when we had it. Blindingly fast everywhere. Pretty much a touring car with leather trim and a CD player.
I don't think you'd be able to mod a stock car to that level though. It was a bare shell factory rebuild. And a lot of the stuff was limited availability or one offs. Like the AWD system. Shocks, gearbox, engine, brakes. Pity it never went to production. 🙁 Couple of colleagues got shanghaied into the project for 2 or 3 months while they looked at it. That was (apparently) good fun.
I've had a (public road) play in the hopped up road going version (about 325 bhp and FWD) and that was a hoot. I reckon 300 would be doable and drive able with some smart purchases (diffs, suspension, brakes!).
Not the actual redline/limiter but deep into the red, sure. Even though it's a diesel it still pulls up to the top, and if I shift high then the upshift drops the revs right into the fat again for the next gear. Don't do it often though, just not neccesary.
My bike used to make basically the same amount of power from 6500 to 10000 so that was where you wanted to stay (it'd have gone on to 11 if I'd switched the ECU but I think it'd only be a matter of time til a piston punched me in the jaw tbh)
Loved mine [1.8D Fiesta] as a first car.....you had to actually drive it.
I can only assume that you only ever visited things that were downhill.
We could be talking about different things, this would've been a... Mk3 I think? Let me Google.
Honda Integra Type R......it goes to 10 000 rpm for a reason, its meant to be used. Big fat yes from me when the time is right (best in 2nd gear)
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Just look at it! Hateful bloody things.
Looking at Wikipedia, it'd imply that there were two different 1.8D offerings I think - there's two 0-60 figures listed against it.
The Mk3 on the other hand came with a CVH engine, I imagine that was a lot more fun if the 1.6 CVH petrol I had in my Escort was anything to go by. Now there was an engine that properly thrived on being thrashed.
Occasionally in the Mrs car. 2.4 petrol accord 7500rpm redline...
mines was a mk3. mark my words it was faster than a number of 1.2 corsa from a standing start - mainly because they had to change gears about 30 times to get there and i would still be just going into 3rd. Died of rust at just shy of 250k
Loadsa MPG and fast enough for a new driver - and didnt mind having 3 blokes and 3 bikes on and in..... the 1.6 zetec escort that replaced it couldnt handle that.
VTEC yo? Makes me cringe every time I hear that...
As above when the car / conditions allow, a big yes 😀
Nah it's a diesel, the redline just means lots of noise and you've missed the band by miles, it's quicker to shift up at about 70% of the rev range.
Petrol cars though yeah, maybe not on the way to the shops but now and again.
Nest car will be a petrol, and probably brand new, unless the book says it needs to be run in or something (do they still do that?) it won't get past the first day without seeing the line, maybe the limiter if I'm being a bit cack-handed.
Every other car I've owned I regularly did, it's the only way to extract maximum performance (and if you don't want that level of performance ever, get a slower car!)
On my current car, peak power is quoted from 4000-5500rpm I think, and redline at 6500, so don't bother (having tried it once or twice just to be sure it is pointless)
😀@nickjb - is that all that's left?
Not quite. Tin worm got her but a friend saved the running gear with a plan to put it in a kit car. RWD, Five link live axle with LSD, lovely revvy engine. Perfect for a kit but I suspect it'll never happen. Maybe I should get a bit back as a paperweight. Great car. Best of the 80s hot hatches by a mile (ducks)
hora - Member
VTEC yo? Makes me cringe
Makes teh bitchez wet though
Aye sometimes. Interestingly the ZF auto in my 135i keeps hold of gears til the very death! Beyond what I would if it was a manual. When I first got it and popped it in Sport mode then reached for the kickdown I thought it was broken.. Don't get me wrong it sounded glorious but I was just thinking "is it EVER going to upshift?!". As others have said there are other sweet spots in the rev range too - there's a lovely spot around 3200rpm (I've found the same in other straight 6 Beemers)
The GFs Mini Cooper 1.6i gets a fair ragging but sounds mechanically harsh within 1000rpm of the limit so I always feel bad on the poor thing afterwards!
The OP question made me smile. Last time in my own car was in my XR2 circa 1988.... Didn't have a car which I would dare do that to for years after and now diesels which don't need revs like that. Shame.
Only when overtaking horses
In every petrol car I've owned yes, frequently as they were all gutless crappy little engines.
I now drive a Berlingo 1.6 hdi so no not often, but it does happene every now and then.
Tom B - Member
Only when overtaking horses
Remember to beep the horn too so they know you're coming through
Yep, nothing better sounding than the Golf R 32 being driven in Sport mode albeit it gets a tad thirsty. 😆
The Aygo/C1 3 cyl sounds awesome on full 'chat' 😆 😀