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HA HA HA HA you need to do something else than just sit watching your bike or taking it along the M4. Single are god sent. There is nothing that will be as enjoyable as single once the road start to turn (you now the opposite of straight lines 😉 ).
I have tried many bike, and the bandit 1200 was the worst. Yeah is was good going straight but you couldn't steer it for shite. Even if your life was depending on it.
The poor sod's gone from a 125cc to get used to riding to a 900cc in only 4 hours.
I think a Hayabusa, GSXR750, Fireblade or even a Goldwing might fit the bill perfectly. 😆
The bandit 1200 is the height of motorcycle design. Big engine. Wheel at each end. The ultimate B-road bike. 🙂
I've got one. And a 1000cc twin. And 4 singles - but they're all crap on the road (not enough cylinders).
Singles don't go fast enough to encounter corners. They do make your vison go blurred giving the illusion of speed though.
Singles are lots of fun, I've just got rid of one and only have Hornet now. Whilst it's more civilised, I kinda miss the huge engine braking and the SLAP SLAP BANG BANG noise that set car alarms off
Having never ridden a motorbike before (but mountain bikes and road bikes all my life, car licence from 17), how challenging is passing via a direct access course.
Passing the test is probably easier on a 500cc than on a 125.
Stay away from the Bandit 600s unless they're absolutely dirt cheap, they were always inexplicably well regarded for such heavy, flexy, poorly suspended, underpowered slugs.
I had one and it was horrible. It didn't handle well and while a bit quicker in a straight line than the Deauville I had at the same time it was slower in real world performance. I sold the Bandit after a couple of months and bought a CBR600 instead, which I still have 10-years later.
srx 600 is a single. Singles are awful.
My lovely XBR500 would beg to differ!
don simon - Member
The poor sod's gone from a 125cc to get used to riding to a 900cc in only 4 hours.
I think a Hayabusa, GSXR750, Fireblade or even a Goldwing might fit the bill perfectly.
Exactly why I was looking to stay with a 125 for a little while!! I only ever envisaged going up to 400 anyway!
Shame about the Bandits as I quite fancied one, purely from looks.
I'm still trying to catch up on googling all the suggestions - this is a new language to me.
Singles don't go fast enough to encounter corners
At least they manage to get around it not like the inline 4 that need power to compensate the fact that they can't be tipped over.
400s don't really exist as a market in the UK. 600s are the norm, so the choice is bigger and the price lower.
The bandit 600 is ancient history now. Hornets, Fazers or the Versys are probably where to start looking.
At least they manage to get around it not like the inline 4 that need power to compensate the fact that they can't be tipped over.
You need to have a word with Jeremy Burgess. The 2012 Ducati isn't set in stone yet. Maybe Valentino can storm to victory on an awesome single. 😀
Yeah see you admit it the most awsome bike ever made was the super mono you've implied it with your own words (kinda).
Plus track are for pansies. Real men ride thumpers around cols 😀
Shame about the Bandits as I quite fancied one, purely from looks.
The little 400 Bandits are actually quite good - I've had two. There are uk spec and import bikes but both are decent. Not that fast but it's fun reving the nuts off them and they handle quite well.
The super mono was a twin. They just took the spark plugs out of the top cylinder.
The super mono was a twin.
nope it was half a twin hence the name M O N O 😀
Anyway I have one in the garage that need rebuilding 😀
Really? Very cool. I've only seen one.
It's still a twin. "Double con-rod balance system" my arse.
EDIT: From owning ducatis... you'll need a multimeter, soldering iron and 100m of wire.
no i mean I have a mono in the garage, do I look like I am as loaded as stoner or what... Tomorrow is the day when the awesomeness of the mono will sing again
HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA (if I can find petrol that's it) (and if I haven't cocked up the rebuilding that it too)
EDIT: From owning [s]ducatis[/s]kawas... you'll need a multimeter, soldering iron and 100m of wire.
Fixed that for you...
EDIT: From owning ducatis... you'll need a multimeter, soldering iron and 100m of wire.
An AA membership would also come in handy.
My thumper:
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Lovely little thing it is, as long as you stick to twisty roads. It's properly hateful on the motorway (although that might be 'cause I'm more used to faired bikes).
no i mean I have a mono in the garage, do I look like I am as loaded as stoner or what...
I'm disappointed. But at least a single is easier to fix than a twin (with a missing spark plug).
Tomorrow is the day when the awesomeness of the mono will sing again
Cool.
They do sound good. Even if they're crap.
Guys lets refocus on what the poster is asking for; a bike for an 80 mile commute.
Lovely little thing it is, as long as you stick to twisty roads. It's properly hateful on the motorway (although that might be 'cause I'm more used to faired bikes).
I bought a dominator fairly recently (same engine I think). I was drunk, the wife was away - these things happen.
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I would have kept it if I had the space.
Guys lets refocus on what the poster is asking for; a bike for an 80 mile commute.
It's been done to death but... how about a...
Dominator?
Guys lets refocus on what the poster is asking for; a bike for an 80 mile commute.
Honda Deauville. Cheap(ish) to run, comfortable, reliable, shaft drive, good weather protection. Not the most exciting bike on the planet but it was built to do a particular job very well - and an 80 mile commute is that job. This was mine (and no doubt it's still going strong under new ownership):
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Thanks everyone.
I no longer understand what Juan and 5th are talking about.
Plenty of food for thought though.
Cheers.
I no longer understand what Juan and 5th are talking about.
I wouldn't worry 😉
epicsteve - MemberHonda Deauville
They are superb- 2 wheeled cars. But are they available at this price range? I looked for one a couple of years ago and there was nothing under a grand that I'd have touched with a 10 foot pole.
First ones are '98 so there should be some half-decent ones for a grandish. I bought mine for £4500 in '99 and was pleasantly surprised when I got £1500 for it as a trade in 10 years later, so they do hold their value quite well.
There's a few on ebay around the £1500 mark (BIN/classifieds) at the moment.
I've had a look on Autotrader as well and it does look like £1500 is still the bottom end. Looks like you could buy one for that, run it for a year and then get your money back on it.
kawasaki v`s Ducati electrics.Hmmm. Ive read things about Ducati electrics but never Kawasaki probs.Few winters of salt and 20 thousand miles now and never a glitch.Starts first time,everytime.The zx9r E1 i have was NOT built on a friday afternoon. :O)
Hi Juan - long time since I saw you post on here! Anyhow, could everybody stop slagging Bandits off, I got one (a 600) when I first passed my test, and I loved it to bits. Having said that, I had nothing to compare it to really, but I do have very fond memories of it. Then again, I'm the last person to give advice, my current bike's a Harley, the last one was a Buell, and the one before that was another Harley... 🙄
Go direct access then the worlds your oyster. TBH its a bit like asking, "I'm a noob, which mountain bike should I get?" It's a personal thing and everyones advice will differ as to their tastes and experience or lack of..…do some research, read some mags, read reviews etc…..is it purely functional or do you want it to look good too? Purely commuting or will you fancy a blast at weekends too…... which you will. Direct access will open up pretty much anything you like, a good reliable Jap middleweight will see you OK mate and be reselleable easy too. Suzuki SV650, Honda CBR 600 is a mega tool….can do anything, millions to choose from and bulletproof. Honda CB500 or 600 Hornet, cheap and reliable, Kwak GPZ 500. Suzuki Bandit 600 or GS500. The list is long and £1500 will buy you a lot of bike for your money if you use If it wisely and do some reading. If it was me (and I'm using hindsight here), I'd go 500-600cc commuter or all rounder and deffo japanese. You could even get an 80s or early 90s sportsbike for that kinda dough. Stay away from smaller italian or chinese 125s and 250s……harder to resell and not as trustworthy, the japs have the lions share of sales for a reason. Oh, be prepared to have a HUGE amount of fun too, whatever you choose.
I'm just a noob so ignore me if this is silly but if it's such a long commute every day, isn't the important thing to get something with a fairing and a 12v supply so that you use toasty gloves/jackets? 40 miles each way in [url=
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Lot of people getting carried away with spending OP's cash on money pit bikes.
80 mile commute, £1500 budget, first bike. I'd go with a Kawasaki ZZR600. Nice and cheap, comfortable, fast enough, bomb-proof, won't matter if you drop it, and most importantly it has some semblance of a fairing for that commute.
Googled for photos of the ZZR600. Apparently they're good for riding in your kitchen.
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I'd go with a Kawasaki ZZR600. Nice and cheap, comfortable, fast enough, bomb-proof,
Hardly bombproof, mine was nicked and then returned which a comprehensively blown engine. 😥 Nice bikes all the same.
To answer the OP:
As it's your first bike you want something cheap,simple, reliable, easy to work on and service and not too much of a handful.
Now, you could go for a 125 but with such a long commute you will begin to get a bit annoyed with after the initial buzz and wish you had soemthing better.
Avoid the likes of the RS125. Sure it's fast for such a small bike and the handling is ace but it's a high maintenance bike and avoid maintenance of them at your peril - they will and do blow up. Plenty around needing new barrels and pistons due to this...
I would do your test (I think you're restricted to 40bhp for a while now?) and get something along the lines of a DR350 (or the more modern DR400), XT350, something like that.
For comuting, it's not the quickest but it is comfy - you will really appreciate that fact.
They have a good amount of torque which = fun. You'll get to know the bikes abilities and begin to explore them, this also = fun.
They are nice and easy to work on, cheap to service and insure and if looked after will go on and on and on...
Plus, when you decide you want to get a bigger bike or something different you will get most of your money back on it.
Don't get me wrong, big bikes are great but you need something which serves two purposes. 1 - a begginers bike. 2 - get to and from work.
You can add in 3 actually - have lots of fun.
hope that helps...
Did my CBT a month ago, didn't get on with gears straight away so completed it on the scooter - that's something to factor in as well.
Even though I can legally ride a 125 geared bike, there's no chance in hell I would without extra training.
Anyway, I do love my scooter - a Honda PCX 125. Around 100MPG, top speed of 60mph, gets upto 45-50mph without any effort, and eventually upto 60 🙂
A chap who rides a motorbike here once said to me 'you will always want more power', and I think he has a point 🙂
A 125 is fine for what I do mind ,and there's not many roads on my commute where I would want more.
Obviously I'm still new to it all, but Zedsdead speaks a great deal of sense I think.
Also, don't forgot costs as other's have said.
Insurance can be around £400 fully comp if you're starting from scratch.
A chap who rides a motorbike here once said to me 'you will always want more power', and I think he has a point
Until you've had 'more power' then you tend not to be bothered anymore. My (tuned) 1200 puts out 130-odd bhp. That's too much for me. 60 is adequate, for me anyway.
If I'd only had 60 it wouldn't be though.
b r - MemberGuys lets refocus on what the poster is asking for; a bike for an 80 mile commute.
[b]cb500[/b]
Small fairing, economincal, fast enough ( faster than most cars) decent handling, available at the right price, cheapish to insure, reliable.
Its the tool for the job!
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I would do your test (I think you're restricted to 40bhp for a while now?) and get something along the lines of a DR350 (or the more modern DR400), XT350, something like that.
For comuting, it's not the quickest but it is comfy - you will really appreciate that fact.
An 80 mile a day commute on something like a DR350? Mental talk. I've had one (a DR350SE) and while it was a good bike it would have been terrible for that - too slow and too much like hard work at A-road/motorway speeds.
An 80 mile a day commute on something like a DR350? Mental talk.
Yes, of course it is....
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I'd avoid small bikes, not worth the hassle. Something like a CB500 or, if you value your licence, an NTV650. I have a Honda Bros 650 and it's a hoot at legal speeds, cheap to run and well built too. CB500 is lovely when you nail it, but you will get the points then.
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Northwind - yep mountain biking was the end for my SV 🙁 well before it was the end of me 🙂
Getting back into mountainbiking help end my time on motorbikes as well. The BMW sat unloved and unused for 18 months until I sold it
TJ I have a Fiver lying around. I give it to you and I come up north to free your garage space from the BSA.
5th elefant, she sang beautifully 😀 Now I just need to get the brake working and save money for a paint job...