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They seem to be everywhere!
It's almost like you are attracting them.
Isn't it.
😉
It's almost like you are attracting them.
Like flies round sh*t! 😉
So anyway, this old queen. Attention seeking old fruit, or the saviour of the euthenasia movement?
Nah - he's boring - it's been much more fun watching you did a deeper and deeper hole. 🙂
did the sexuality of your brother in-law in any way affect the relationship that you are trying to extricate yourself from?
I just cannot understand why he would do that on TV, I personally don’t believe in assisted suicide.
I bet nothing happens to him, what the world is coming to.
Any of you mess with me and it will be the pillow, say no more. 😆
watching you did a deeper and deeper hole.
How topical.
did the sexuality of your brother in-law in any way affect the relationship that you are trying to extricate yourself from?
That must rank as one of the silliest things I've ever read on this forum. Astounding. 🙄
I reckon Shibboleth got a knock back from Ray Gosling in the past....
nonk - Member
gay man calls another gay man a queen your fine with it, straight man does it and he's a homophobe.
get a grip.
bet you used to be the one at school that would tell teacher.
Or to put it slightly differently: black man calls another black man a '****' and you're fine with it, white man does it and he's a racist.
Yes.
Or to put it slightly differently, if a gay friends flirts, or is outragoulsy camp with me and I say "P*ss off you big queer", he's fine with it but the STW Guardian Readers decry me as homophobic.
Strange world, isn't it.
Or to put it slightly differently, if a gay friends flirts, or is outragoulsy camp with me and I say "P*ss off you big queer"
What if you said it to someone who wasn't your friend, whilst slagging them off?
Back on topic:
I heard Mr Gosling (a man, I have to say, of whom I was not aware) on the Today Programme yesterday.
He sounded like a bewildered old man who didn't know quite what he was trying to say. I got the impression that he was looking for attention and getting a bit muddled. As somebody else has pointed out, I'm not sure that is a good poster-boy for the mercy killing lobby.
Off Topic:
I have no issue with homosexuality, I wish no harm to homosexuals and get along with homosexual people that I know and have met, but do find 'campness' in men irritating, especially when, as others have said, it is only adopted post-coming-out. It's quite possibly due to 'campness' not fitting in with the commonly accepted male or female behaviour -rightly or wrongly-, but is not fear of homosexuals (homophobia).
Whatever he is charged with, he could seemingly play the 'mentally unstable' card anyway. The story is sad, but somehow by being such an idiot, he lost all of my sympathy.
And, having gone on the TV and confessed to killing somebody (not once but twice!), why did he then say when questioned about the Police becoming involved 'They'll never get me to say anything, we had a code of silence'. What had he just done on national television?! A real Dad's Army, 'Don't tell him your name Pike' moment!
What if you said it to someone who wasn't your friend, whilst slagging them off?
I didn't and wouldn't.
Geronimo, very well put off topic addendum to your post.
I didn't and wouldn't.
It's equivalent to what you did in the OP though - STW is not the same as 'with your mates in the pub'.
That must rank as one of the silliest things I've ever read on this forum.
...and that's up against some pretty stiff competition.
The day gay people stop adopting ridiculous stereotypical demeanors - the lisp, mincey walk, overtly dramatic and feminine tone - is the day I'll stop using their sexuality to describe their personality.
I very rarely see anyone like that but isn't like 5% of the population gay ? And for that matter I've met quite a few conforming to those sterotypes who are actually straight...
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They seem to be everywhere!
bear in mind it's been established on this forum that fancying women is rather gay too and [b]real[/b] men only respond to motorbikes and titanium 🙁
It's equivalent to what you did in the OP though
Grum, would you be so kind as to remind me *exactly* where in the Original Post I said anything remotely equivalent to calling somebody "queer" as an insult, because I'm at an absolute loss as what the **** you're on about...
and that's up against some pretty stiff competition.
boasting again 🙂
Shibboleth,I started a thread about Ray Gosling last night, ive also watched his programes for Granada Tv,On Site, being one,and also have his book.
I had no idea he was or is Gay,and have say i was shocked when i found out,i am not shocked that he has adnmitted to suffocating his partner,but am at the stupid and silly comments you have come out with,perhaps is now the time for you to come out,ill come around and give you a hug,and then you may be happier.
Awaits tirade.........
Grum, would you be so kind as to remind me *exactly* where in the Original Post I said anything remotely equivalent to calling somebody "queer" as an insult, because I'm at an absolute loss as what the **** you're on about...
Where you called him a seedy old queen? Remember? Fine if that's acceptable banter between you and your mates, but homophobic when used in an attacking way about someone you don't know, on a public forum - see the difference?
+ 1 for Grum's last post
to be fair to the OP the word drama is being omitted to win this argument I think
I thought gay men were supposed to be more concerned about their appearance? Obviously another stereotype...
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Where you called him a seedy old queen? Remember?
No, I don't remember, you idiot! If you go back and read what I wrote, rather than what you would have liked me to have written, you'll see that I referred to him as a seedy drama queen. "Drama queen" is NOT a homophobic insult as it doesn't necessarily refer to his sexuality. Get your facts straight before accusing people of homophobia. Tit.
Project, I'll have a look for your thread. Seeing him on BBC Breakfast yesterday was the first I've ever seen of him, though the name rings a bell. Maybe my 'gaydar' is better tuned than yours, but he didn't even need to open his mouth - his whole posture, body language and the phoney way he pursed his lips screamed "GAY!".
Oh, and by the way. I'm 100% straight I'm afraid, so any hugs will be just hugs. They won't lead to anything else. Sorry, I'm a lady lover. 😉
Sorry, I'm a lady lover.
that's gay too
I've got the feeling shibbo's avoiding me...
I wish he'd stop mincing around.
Shibboleth - MemberProject, I'll have a look for your thread. Seeing him on BBC Breakfast yesterday was the first I've ever seen of him, though the name rings a bell. Maybe my 'gaydar' is better tuned than yours, but he didn't even need to open his mouth - his whole posture, body language and the phoney way he pursed his lips screamed "GAY!".
Oh, and by the way. I'm 100% straight I'm afraid, so any hugs will be just hugs. They won't lead to anything else. Sorry, I'm a lady lover.
Why do ST8 men always have to tell the world theyre not GAY,and then complain when Gay men say theyre not ST8.
As youve now declared youre a lady lover, i hope the gay comunity can sleep in peace ,at the thought youre not one of them,because if you where you would be a serious problem to the propogation of Gay equality.
I now withdraw my offer of a hug.
I now withdraw my offer of a hug.
Typical response of the spurned. 😉
I don't feel the need to tell the world anything, but I will correct people if they make erroneous assumptions or accusations.
Mr Woppit - Member
I've got the feeling shibbo's avoiding me...
Have you asked me something?
Going back to the topic, I heard the interview on the today program yesterday. Personally I thought he sounded like a nutter, and a fairly chilling one at that.
*If* he did indeed kill someone (as opposed to makinging it up) I'd hope the police investigate and prosocute him for murder.
Mr Woppit - MemberShibboleth - Member
I wasn't going to comment Clubber, as what you spouted seemed to be utter drivel. The overwhelming majority of gay men I know (having a gay brother in law there are quite a few in my circle of friends) are noticably camp to the point that nobody would ever be in any doubt to their sexuality.
Amazing you manage to hang around them, then, given your earlier comments...
Mr Woppit, I'm sorry if I assumed that was anything other than a very poor troll. If you want to ask a question, try structuring it as a question and ending it with a question mark (?).
I really didn't think it warranted a response though.
I preferred this thread off topic actually.
I work in the building game , so it's OK to use words like queen , or homo , but in reality we wouldnt 'mince around ' linguistically, we'd just probably say , filthy abhorrent freak of nature faggot , die ,haha, a pillow's too good for you , here , my size nine 14hole oxblood doc with yellow laces.
Which is what I feel you were leaning towards .
I wouldnt say such horrible things . Freak or not .
One of my work mates is a fag , and another's a dyke .
I've reread and deleted this bit . Oh , I was ranting .
I've even seen a bit of fascism creeping in some of your work the other week , calling plasterboarders , and stuff .
Forget me if I'm wrong.
And to think , I was giving you frank and open relationship advice .
You cradle snatching harrington coat wearing skinhead. You should try beating up a woman of your own age .
I dont even think that . But see how stuff can sound ?
See. I dont really care about his sexuality one way or t'other . What does it even matter if he likes cock ?
But believe me , if my wife or child or goldfish was in as much pain as he described ( truthfully or not ) , I'd do what they wished to end it for them .
The goldfish might struggle with conveying that .
My dad died last year . He had dementia . It was terrible . I wish he'd died sooner . And I loved him so much .I'd've done it.
I blame the 60s . We're all thinking too much .
The voluntary euthenasia /assisted suicide thing will sort itself out .
You'll see.
All you have to do is grow up .
"That must rank as one of the silliest things I've ever read on this forum"
I can only postulate you have never reread any of your own posts then.
Time to stop digging now. As you said, they're "everywhere" and it's just not worth the hassle.
Anyway, it looks like the original subject of the thread has been arrested so hopefully it'll all be over with by teatime.
Oh, and by the way. I'm 100% straight I'm afraid
The lady doth protest too much 😀
I must say I was ammused by his account and stance , "I was in hospital with my young gay lover I spoke to the Dr and asked to be alone then smothered him .But I'm not going to give his name" for fxxks sake how many of his younger friends have died in those circumstances (smothered in hospital) it should'nt be too hard for a properly equiped police force to work out the identity.
He did not appear to be arguing for assisted suicide last night on the news and in fact specificaly denied that he was. He came out with the story in a general piece about death when he met a woman coming to terms with her partners agony and her desire to "help him". He came across as quite genuine and deeply touched by what he had done in a time of poor paliative care. He did not come across as a Drama queen.
To be honest I can understand his actions and if his account is true I hope that despite all the media attention the whole thing goes away with out a prosection.
I hope that despite all the media attention the whole thing goes away with out a prosection.
no, I think there's a prima face case to answer, though perhaps a suspended sentence would be appropriate
Muddy Fox Courier,well said the first bit, at last somebody has the guts to say what a lot of real homophobic people say and do.
Thats real homophobia,and it kills people.
Really sorry to hear about the sad loss of your dad,i know from personal experience what youre going through.
SIMON .There is not really even sufficient evidence to charge right now , unsolicited confession with no details not even that the incident was in this country. Most importantly no evidence of cause of death he can say he smothered him but whats to say that actually killed him . A terminal aids patient could go at any time from any number of causes.
If he did do as he said and there is a conviction it would be for murder, there would be no sentence discression other than length.Life with a tariff starting point for calculation circa 15 years.that is why i hope it all goes away as either insufficient evidence or not in the public interest to prosecute. Though it would be very brave to decline on the public interest ground given the media activity.
He won't be prosecuted. He took a calculated risk and just hopes to get a long stiff talking to.
SO tempted to be REALLY obvious here, but..... no.
Don't want to be hoist by my own petard.
BillMC - Member
He won't be prosecuted. He took a calculated risk and just hopes to get a long stiff talking to.
In my experience, senile old fools that don't know the difference between 'county' and country', and are incapable of stringing together a coherent argument, are rarely capable of 'calculated risks'.
I should re re read what I put . I was kinda fuming .
You either get me , or you dont.
" On the face of it " I just cannot even see what his sexuality has got to do with the price of milk .
Once again the media , I suppose , have taken a hot topic and , well , 'sexed it up ' . I bet they couldnt believe it . We've had average normal middle class , middle England , middle management middle sized man , who shops at Waitrose , getting bounced for doing his middle class wife a favour ,who was suffering from , I dunno , terminal hayfever , or something. OK , it was Parkinsons . I think .
Along comes a celebrity , of sorts , whos batting for the other team , confessing quite openly to a mercy killing of his AIDS infected former lover. They must've thought it was Christmas again .
I wasnt being flippant when I mentioned my dad . It's a deeply personal thing , isnt it ? On the one hand we all want our loved ones to live forever , but my dad in the last 15 or so years of his life had had , and beat , cancer, a few times ( sarcoma + prostate ),had an amputation ( from ultimately the Sarcoma , his leg BTW ) , and then slowly began to lose his marbles .
He was a very clever man , and a musician , and construction worker , and a bit of a mad professor . The last 5 yrs were pretty tough , for us all TBH . Including him , but not only . My mums hips both had to be replaced , I'm convinced as a result of pushing his 13 st around in that bloody chair .
But even that wasnt so bad .
The last 2 yrs were the worst . I dont need to paint the bleakest of pictures , do I , but suffice to say it was pretty shit .
The thing is though , it wasnt even as bad as it could have got . A few days before he died we were having a bit of a joke in one of his more lucid moments . It wasnt too bad . He knew me at least.
A guy at work goes to visit his mother in law twice a week . Shes been in a home for over a decade , and cant even recognise them . Vegetative . Doubley incontinent .
How shit's that ?
My dad was 82 . It was about 2 yrs too much . I can only hope that something comes along , some wonderdrug , that enables our brains to keep up with all the plastic and epoxy theyre using to keep us ticking over and existing .
Apparently our generation will live to 100.
Where's the fun in that.
So whether it's Aids that gets me , or parkinsons , or Dementia , or even bloody hay fever , I hope someone that loves me is there with a pillow .
Just leave it 'til after I'm struggling with that tricky corner up to the Pike.
Oh , and thanks