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Where did they come up with such a shite name for this thing? Having visited the website (www.helloevoque.com)for it I'm at a complete loss as to who this vehicle is aimed at, city movers and shapers indeed 😯
Women
How much does it weigh?
About 1.5 tonnes
It'll sell by the truckload, despite being about as much use as udders on a bull.
I strongly suspect it'll be bought by folks who've something to prove...
As PJM says it'll sell very well - and more importantly keep loads of British workers employed!!
I thought it looked perfect for the market its aimed at - aspirational hello reading middle earners I would guess.
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But it's being built in India, no?
Does look quite pointless though, what's it for?
apparently they have employed victoria beckham to help design the interior as well.
It's pretty much a BMW with rr badging anyway iirc.could be wrong there, but hey ho 🙂
Nice, I like it.
But it's being built in India, no?
Is it!!! Shows what I know!!
It'll keep loads of India people employed then (and a few less in the UK!) 😀
Does look quite pointless though, what's it for?
Er, driving around in?
It's an upmarket Nissan Qashqai. Middle class Tarquins and Cressidas will want it for taking young Shaquille to school in safety.
I think it's quite evocative of a proper Range Rover
I really like the look of it (and I hate almost all big 4x4 style cars) and isn't it meant to be really fuel efficient too?
Indeed, Jocasta Ponsenby-Smythe and her associated will enjoy mounting the kerb near schools around the country in that!
It has nothing to do with BMW - no parts, technology or anything (let's not forget who gave BMW their 4WD capability).
It will not be built in India - still UK based manufacturing.
And it will be the most fuel efficient 4WD in its class, drive like a car, and be a cracking piece of kit.
The interior is already designed - Mrs Beckham hasn't had a hand in that (yet).
Looks like a Kuga
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[i]will be the most fuel efficient 4WD in its class[/i]
they always add the proviso 'in its class' so they can use the words [i]fuel[/i] and [i]efficient[/i] in proximity to each other...
But it's being built in India, no?
[url= http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/merseyside/10485426.stm ]No.[/url] It's being made by Scousers.
I fully expect to never see a single one with any mud on it
"in it's class" could mean anything.
If it's in the same class as a Hummer H2 then I fully expect it to be fuel efficient in comparison.
But then so is the USS Kitty Hawk (probably).
The lrx concept car was based on a freelander, and Land Rover claim it's almost entirely unchanged from the concept car,so I suspect it may simply be a freelander in a posh frock for. It's going to be available in just 2wd as well.Haldex awd is bad enough without making it just 2wd. It's a national disgrace blah blah etc.
That's what I don't get about these so called 4x4s. They look like off road cars (almost, if you squint into the sun and through the corner of your eye), then they put low profile tyres on them.
I was following one big mother of a 4x4 after a winter ride when it came to a sudden halt, blocking the road. I got out after a bit and went to see what was up. There was a large puddle in the road and the poor dear in it wasn't sure she could get through. It must have been all of 3 or 4 inches deep so I can see why she was worried!
I persuaded her it would be fine and she crawled through. (BTW we are talking Suffolk here.... no chance of big floods which would swallow a bus, or even a mini) so I wasn't being too careless with her truck/car thing.
Nothing wrong with the cars in principle, just some of the numpties that drive them!
Hate to say it guys but I'm 95% certain this will actually be a front wheel drive "pretend" 4x4 and therefore as useful as an aerodynamic parachute.
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So this styling package finally came in handy then?
A sad time all round.
RIP, LR.
RIP, LR.
A bit OTT!?
Its one model in their range. They still make some of the best off-road vehicles for sale.
Anyway, with it being 2wd, just think of all the entertainment we'll get when winter comes and we see all those yummy-mummies getting stuck in the snow in their 'Range Rover'!
Well, its won't be as much fun as watching all the SUV morons piling into things 'cos they can't stop their 2 tonne trucks.
It's a rufty-tufty-looking car for people who want to have an 'image' whilst they drive around urban areas and have no need to cross the desert.
The girl (mid 20s with big sunglasses -a footy player's lass?) who was weaving about, tail-gating, pulling out into and cutting-up various people in a full-size Range Rover (with non-functioning indicators) on the M6 and M62 on Sunday afternoon would presumably be the target market. She would do marginally less damage in the smaller version when she crashes in the very near future.
It will be available in both 2 and 4 wheel drive, based on a freelander and probably start around 30k. as for being the most fuel efficient in its class, of course it is, it is a 'new' niche in the market so no other competitors.
About 1.5 tonnes
Probably nearer 2t. Our Focus estate is around 1.34t, and a Ford Kuga about 1.70t, IIRC
(I've weighed both on my weighbridge, yes!)
Speeking of new landrovers...........
Seen the new defender?
edit: can't find any exciting pics? Have they scraped it in favour of sticking a boxy shell on a LR4 chassis?
That's what I don't get about these so called 4x4s. They look like off road cars (almost, if you squint into the sun and through the corner of your eye), then they put low profile tyres on them
They're now called 'crossovers'. That is, a car that LOOKS like a 4x4 and has a high ride because that's what some people like; but is more driveable, more fuel efficient and cheaper. Stupid I know, but there you go. Some people are convinced that they are bigger inside and safer too. Which is not true.
Low profile tyres are part of the concessions to normal road use, as is 2wd.
they always add the proviso 'in its class' so they can use the words fuel and efficient in proximity to each other...
I had heard of figures around 50/70mpg being bandied around when it was mentioned on the news the other night.
Cannot find a kerb weight for the Evoque
I did find one for the 2011 Range Rover though:
Kerb Weight kg (lb) 2580-2810 (5668-6195)
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Hah. 50-70mpg my arse.
Kerb Weight kg 2580-2810
I stand corrected! 😉
Hah. 50-70mpg my arse.
Well I am just saying what I heard - I don't really mind if it is true or not, I will not be getting one.
They're now called 'crossovers'.Low profile tyres are part of the concessions to normal road use, as is 2wd.
2wd is fine in most situations, especially with a limited slip diff (not necessarily nice for on-road).
I rented a 2wd Ford EcoSport (small version of an Explorer) in South America and it was fine on Andean mountain dirt tracks. It only struggled when I tried to drive up [b]very[/b] steep, loose tracks to see what it would do.The tyres could have done with being a bit narrower and taller.
The soft springs and tall ride height soaked up bumps well, although it was a bit roly-poly on the road. .
4wd for a non-high performance, UK road car is fairly pointless.
Poncey SUV coupes are a bit pathetic really.
Its not about what is fit for purpose, its about what the Joneses next door have.
Its not about what is fit for purpose, its about what the Joneses next door have.
Never a truer word(s) said!
Its not about what is fit for purpose, its about what the Joneses next door have.
They have a Mondeo....
..and so do we.
Oh.
Its not about what is fit for purpose, its about what the Joneses next door have
Not exactly. It IS about what you want, but it's shallow to say that that's only influenced by what your peers have.
Otherwise we'd want either a Honda Civic petrol, a knackered old Passat, a Polo, a Mazda 3, a Yaris, a Focus or an A3.
Oops!
50-70mpg?
My #rs3 it does...
Throwaway comment made on internet fails to encapsulate all possible scenarios shocker.
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Ooh, interesting. According to wiki, it's got an 8 speed gearbox and a parallel hybrid system involving electric drive to the rear wheels on a FWD car. Very interesting.
And tons of carbon bits and what not. And 60mpg combined...
[i]Looks like a Kuga[/i]
It's white anyway.
lol adh
Check the T&Cs of the forum - by posting you make a legal contract to be subjected to escalating levels of pedantry
Ooh, interesting. According to wiki, it's got an 8 speed gearbox and a parallel hybrid system involving electric drive to the rear wheels on a FWD car. Very interesting.And tons of carbon bits and what not. And 60mpg combined...
So I didn't completely mis-hear it then.
Now where is that raspberry-blowing avatar?....
[i]And tons of carbon bits[/i]
it'll end in tears, I've read all the 'carbon is alright as a basis for life but has no place in a method of transport' threads on here.
by posting you make a [b]legal contract[/b] to be subjected to escalating levels of pedantry
Hoisted. Petard. Etc.
I quite like these crossover vehicles. I don't want or need a 4WD, but I think my wife's Suzuki SX4 (2WD) is a cool looking car and a really "easy" driving position. It got me to Fort William and back very comfortable thanks, and with good views of the hills too 🙂
The jury is out for me on this Evoque tho'
As I said earlier, I quite like the look of it - it needs to be blinged-up a bit though, it doesn't quite look flash enough yet.
There's a lot of speculation in the press, so don't believe everything you read/hear.
The press make up (and many believe) lots of stuff. And often misinterpret what the Manufacturer tells them.
So, the claims for 70mpg may not be true now, but one day they will be, likewise carbon bits and 0-60 on 1.5 seconds from a 600cc single cylinder.
Can't you lot knock some foreign cars instead of the stuff that keeps British Manufacturing alive?
Shame that they can't put their British manufacturing skills to something more eco-friendly tho. All that tech in an aerodynamic hatchback would be something to be proud of and get more than 60mpg.
Note that we do knock foreign cars too. If it's daft, it gets knocked. British people aren't special.
It's a rufty-tufty-looking car for people who want to have an 'image' whilst they drive around urban areas and have no need to cross the desert.
Much like most existing Land Rover/Range Rover drivers, then.
[Insert urban myth about 90% of LRs/RRs being registered in London]
Morgan and Gordon Murray are doing much more interesting eco tech cars.
Land Rover give us the typical over engineered & over equipped cars, designed increasingly for ego massaging instead of actual off road use.
Who's Gordon Murray?
Designed the Mclaren F1
I googled it. Kind of like a smart but more so.
It's about time peopel started really working on eco cars. The more that are around and actually work, the less people will end up obsessing over the finer points of handling or torque curves and crap in their overly powerful ego chariots.
Personally I think the Nissan Leaf is one of the most important eco cars coming up.
Personally I think the Nissan Leaf is one of the most important eco cars coming up.
You would have thought they would have made the website work then wouldn't you 👿
(I can't get it to run in either Chrome or Firefox on a PC running Windows 7)
Just managed to make it work in Safari on my Mac.
Form><Function (the site that is, not the car). Bl00dy horrible experience.
Not trying hard enough. I'll be interested when someone does something like this to one..
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Aiiii?
Is it just me, or does it look like a Scirocco that's been inflated?
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Who really gives a shit?
Seriously - I think it looks great. It might well be a bit crap, it may well be fantastic. If you want one and can afford it, then buy one, if you don't like it, then so what?
FFS, it's a car!
you're not really getting the hang of this "discussion board" thing, are you? 😆
It's only temporarily going to keep UK manufacturing jobs, freelanders are going out to india in kit form soon, won't be long before they are building them full on in India, then China, Mexico... Rumour has it the announcement of one of the JLR plants closing will be made a week next thursday, the day they finish for summer shutdown 😥
For that price, I'd rather have a Nissan Qashqai+2 or an Audi Q5.
+1 for the Audi Q5 but they have a tiny weeny boot.
Like the look of that Range Rover.
Evoque? I could have sworn it had Vogue on the back at the press launch. Evoque? Sounds a bit like cock.....
All looks and the marketeers will love it.
Nissan Qashqai+2
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Nissan Qashqai's are downright horrible
I hired a SquashedKey once and it was utterly terrible. The "handling" was downright dangerous and it was just a miserable experience. No no no.
I like it and would love to have one. In metallic cherry as white looks daft when dirty.
When you drive in the country and can't see any scenery as you sit low such a car is a god-sent.
I can assure you, it's wonderful to drive.