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[Closed] PSA: Boeing 777X First Flight in about 10-20mins

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Posted : 24/01/2020 7:02 pm
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Link not working for me, but this is:


 
Posted : 24/01/2020 7:18 pm
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Posted : 24/01/2020 7:23 pm
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I assume this is going to look a lot like a 777 taking off and flying around for a bit?


 
Posted : 24/01/2020 7:40 pm
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If this is really the 777X's first flight, where did they get that in-flight photo at the top of the webpage, eh?


 
Posted : 24/01/2020 7:44 pm
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How many minutes into the flight do we have to watch until the software overrules the pilot and pitches the plane into the ground?


 
Posted : 24/01/2020 7:55 pm
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I'd have been really miffed if I was watching this live from the start and all I'd had was a plane taxiing around and then sitting there for bloody ages!


 
Posted : 24/01/2020 8:12 pm
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Has the CAA grounded it?
#MAX_mistake


 
Posted : 24/01/2020 8:23 pm
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Are we nearly there yet?


 
Posted : 24/01/2020 8:38 pm
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Is it on a treadmill?


 
Posted : 24/01/2020 8:53 pm
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It's quite boring


 
Posted : 24/01/2020 8:58 pm
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Highspeed comments on yoochoob feed are entertaining


 
Posted : 24/01/2020 8:59 pm
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Billions and billions in debt, questionable quality control, 19% drop in sales compared to the previous year, unable to provide the US Air Force with a refuelling tanker that is actually fit for purpose, Max still grounded with no real end in sight and there are now questions over whether the propulsion system on their starliner can be trusted (oh, and the cost per seat is 60% more than Space X who continue to pass all the tests for manned flight).

If it wasn't for the fact that they're artificially propped up by the US government they'd have folded by now.


 
Posted : 24/01/2020 9:05 pm
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I like the feed saying "Due to inclement weather, the 777X is holding at the end of the runway" and meanwhile in the background you can hear everything froms Cessnas and helicopters to bloody great airliners coming and going.


 
Posted : 24/01/2020 9:09 pm
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#777X on Twitter is quite entertaining at the moment.

In the last couple of hours since Daffy started this thread I've cooked and eaten my tea, done the washing up and got a bike ready for tomorrow's ride.


 
Posted : 24/01/2020 9:41 pm
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What's with the folding wings?


 
Posted : 24/01/2020 9:56 pm
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It not as exciting as the thread when we all sit and live comment on the Eurovision Song Contest.


 
Posted : 24/01/2020 10:09 pm
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someone somewhere there is having a fit.  They desperatly want it in the air but at the same time can't be seen to be taking rash decisions.  It would be fun to listen in to those conversations


 
Posted : 24/01/2020 10:22 pm
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Is that it?
So it flaps it swing tips a bit?

Iss disssapoint.


 
Posted : 24/01/2020 10:22 pm
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Those tips look vulnerable as hell. They are obviously not, but certainly look it


 
Posted : 24/01/2020 10:33 pm
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I saw it move!


 
Posted : 24/01/2020 10:33 pm
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Ohh Ted's back to describe exactly what happened today.

"**** all Chuck, **** all!".


 
Posted : 24/01/2020 10:34 pm
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The state of Boeing is illustrated by the sponsor chosen by the USA's yacht competing for the America's Cup. USA teams tend to choose US sponsors - they've gone for Airbus.


 
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Posted : 25/01/2020 12:21 am
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Cabin doors to manual


 
Posted : 25/01/2020 12:29 am
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Cool story.....


 
Posted : 25/01/2020 1:49 am
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What’s with the folding wings?

Simple answer is so its wing span fits within existing airports gates. Single aisle (A320 B737) gate limit is 36m. Wide bodies (A350, B777 etc) gate limit 65m. A380 gate was 80m.

Large wing span is beneficial for reducing drag. Specifically the lift induced drag component which is around 40% of an airliners drag at cruise.

Lift induced drag reduces with span squared. In practice the optimum span for a particular aircraft is a result of comprimises trading drag, weight, cost, manufacturability etc etc...

It is not a new concept. The original B777 even had this option but no-one purchased the capability. Looks cool though! The original B777 is a great aircraft design..


 
Posted : 25/01/2020 8:44 am
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Did it get off the ground?


 
Posted : 25/01/2020 9:20 am
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https://www.seattletimes.com/business/boeing-aerospace/boeing-postpones-777x-first-flight-until-saturday-heres-why-the-wind-caused-problems/

Postponed because the wind was blowing the wrong way. Because it's a test flight, it has to take off over water, not land, so it would have had to take off with a gusty tailwind. Postponed until 10 A.M. Saturday in Seattle timezone.


 
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Posted : 26/01/2020 10:58 am
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Presumably Boeing will be liable to compensate all the airlines with planes that get aren't allowed to use?


 
Posted : 26/01/2020 11:32 am
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Don't worry, even if the banks stop lending them money, the U.S. government will probably bail them out - too big to fail, etc.

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/01/20/737-max-crisis-boeing-seeks-to-borrow-10-billion-or-more.html


 
Posted : 26/01/2020 11:47 am
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Meanwhile at Airbus, the A320neo has a center of gravity issue, the A400M has big issues leading to rejected aircraft, and the A220 has engine problems.


 
Posted : 26/01/2020 12:00 pm
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A320 issues are minor and relate to just one 'trim' option. A220 engine issues are 100% down to Pratt and Whitney.


 
Posted : 26/01/2020 5:55 pm
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Do the wing tips fold automatically? If not, how long until someone forgets?


 
Posted : 26/01/2020 6:03 pm
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Beautiful aircraft and the engines sound amazing. Congrats to Boeing and GE.

Yours,

An Airbus Employee.


 
Posted : 26/01/2020 9:01 pm
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I fly from NCL with 777 once a year then with A380 then either 737 or A320 for final flight to the far east.

IMO I prefer A380 anytime over any of the Boeing except 747. To me 747 and A380 are very comfortable but since 747 is no longer on my route A380 is the best.

As for 737 vs A320 the ride depends on the budget airline pilots in the far east ...


 
Posted : 26/01/2020 9:34 pm
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Looks pretty, but the 787 is a mess after 10 years in service and I’m pretty sure that part of that is because it’s running 777 flight guidance software on a virtual machine.


 
Posted : 27/01/2020 5:03 pm
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787 is a mess after 10 years in service

How so? Genuinely interested.


 
Posted : 27/01/2020 5:13 pm
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Folding wingtips wont be an issue. Boeing has loads of experience of folding wings from military carrier borne aircraft and no body will 'forget' to unfold or fold them in the same way no pilot forgets to lower the undercarridge -and its only the very tip of the wing so not really generating that much lift...the additional wing length is there to reduce wingtip drag. But it will only likely fail to fold rather than fail to extend..if the pilot can't extend on taxi to take off then they'll abort the flight, return to gate and get the issue seen to. If they fail to fold after landing then no bother...the aircraft will just taxi to a hard stand and passengers alight via air stairs and bussed back to the terminal building.


 
Posted : 27/01/2020 5:31 pm
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A bit likely then...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Belly_landing#Pilot_error


 
Posted : 27/01/2020 5:48 pm
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787 is a mess after 10 years in service

How so? Genuinely interested.

Me too, I’m about to risk going to the US in one *gets nervous*


 
Posted : 27/01/2020 5:57 pm
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Me too, I’m about to risk going to the US in one *gets nervous*

Don't be, the 787 is a great aircraft, very comfortable, very safe. Boeing spent over $30bn developing it and much of that knowledge has gone into the 777x.

Ive flown on several and it’s much nicer to fly on than anything else Boeing makes.


 
Posted : 27/01/2020 8:26 pm
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Folding wingtips wont be an issue. Boeing has loads of experience of folding wings from military carrier borne aircraft and no body will ‘forget’ to unfold

Ah well that’s ok then


 
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