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[i]That apart, it was interesting how many parallels there were with some Indian sub continent cultures[/i]
Really? You thought about it a lot more deeply than I did. The only parallel I could draw was with a big pink blancmange.
I see absolutely no morals present at all
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Was it nihlistic?
If not then it had morals... just ones you diagree with
Which kind of shows just how little you and your missus actually know about other cultures....
Bows deeply before the font of all knowledge...obviously I admit to the offence and plead ignorance as my poor but only defence.......
........ actually thats total crepe. Firstly, there is strong evidence to support the passage of the Romany from the Indian sub-continent to Europe, via the Causcusus, although there are also suggestions that the term Gypsies arose from emigration from Eygpt going back to the time of the pharohs. However, thats was not the reason I said what I said. I stand by the comment, and I would love you to go ahead and prove me wrong.
What do you want from a husband??"someone who wont beat me" Seriously WTF? Why would a 15 year old think like that??
seems sensible to me?
What do you want from a husband??"someone who wont beat me" Seriously WTF? Why would a 15 year old think like that??
ahhh you're not from the reading/bracknell area are you?
"Ye grab hor and give hor d' gift o' d' gammon"
From the rather 'confident' young chap in the wifebeater.
Best line I've heard in a while 😆
where they dressed like whores
dopey bugger
where they dressed like whoresdopey bugger
How?
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where they dressed like whoresdopey bugger
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actually thats total crepe. Firstly, there is strong evidence to support the passage of the Romany from the Indian sub-continent to Europe, via the Causcusus, although there are also suggestions that the term Gypsies arose from emigration from Eygpt going back to the time of the pharohs. However, thats was not the reason I said what I said. I stand by the comment, and I would love you to go ahead and prove me wrong.
Blah blah anyone can Google...
The immediate comment from her was how on earth can they afford that?
What do you know about anyone else's earnings, based merely on their appearance or what image you have of them in your head?
Fellas can shag anything that moves, get falling down drunk, beat their women, generally treat them like dirt
Really? So you've lived in an 'Indian Sub-continent' household then have you? Been part of such a community? Right, ok.
Some of what you say is reasonable. There's just too much assumption based on preconceptions of others, without actually knowing much about the reality. That's all.
Tell me more about how whores dress?
Tell me why women should be demeaned by you because of the way they dress?
Let me guess...Burkha is too much and vest tops too little?
What should they wear to avoid your disdain?
Berm Bandit - Member
I watched it with my Mrs. The immediate comment from her was how on earth can they afford that?
Tax evasion may have a part to play in that.
and the cheap housing.
You thought their dress was perfectly acceptable then CharlieM?
You'd like your 15 year old daughter (if you had one) to wander round town dressed like that?
You'd like your 15 year old daughter (if you had one) to wander round town dressed like that?
No, but I wouldn't want my 17 year old son to join the army either. Doesn't mean it's not acceptable. Does it?
Also, whether or not I found it acceptable, has no bearing on it being called whorish.
[i]You'd like your 15 year old daughter (if you had one) to wander round town dressed like that?[/i]
It's an interesting point, and no I wouldn't and share your concern. However one thing that crossed my mind later was that a lot of conservative muslim cultures have very similar concerns by the clothing choices of typical western women. They often accuse western women of dressing in provocative ways, where as we just see it as the freedom to dress as you like. I wonder if we're basically doing the same thing wrt the gypsy dress sense?
TJ very much so I am!
He didn't say they were "whorish", he said [i]where they dressed like whores[/i].
Every (normal person) I've spoken to reckoned their dress sense was wrong. Like "tarts", like "whores" etc. Stop trying to be so damn politically correct for a second and join the real world.
I watched, I pointed, I laughed.
Just the same as I'm watching, pointing and laughing at the Arsenal goalkeepers pink kit on the telly right now.
It's not racist, I'm not making a judgement based on their ethnicity, I'm just finding the difference in mine and their taste values to be amusing. Vive la difference.
I think the posting of the royal wedding pic is quite appropriate. I find that whole pantomime thoroughly tasteless too.
Except I can't laugh at that cos I'm forced to pay for it.
Except I can't laugh at that cos I'm forced to pay for it
How much are you being asked to cough for it ?
He didn't say they were "whorish", he said where they dressed like whores.
Every (normal person) I've spoken to reckoned their dress sense was wrong. Like "tarts", like "whores" etc. Stop trying to be so damn politically correct for a second and join the real world.
Whorish = like a whore. What difference do you see?
Normal person? You mean everyone just like you? I'm not trying to be politcally correct. I think the IanMunro made the point quite clearly.
So some folks don't live the same way as you.
My take on it was that the strict sexual codes gave them licence to dress like that, as the whole community knew that they weren't 'like whores' so they could wear what they wanted without people in their own community judging or making assumptions about them.
You know I reckon our problem is that we've always got it wrong, how does the song go?
chorus)
i want to be the minority
i dont need your authority
down with the moral majority
'cause i want to be the minority
Just wish I didn't have the great god PAYE on my shoulder (and a few horses) 🙁
[i]Whorish = like a whore. What difference do you see?[/i]
"Like a whore" & "dressed like a whore"
You can truncate it to make it mean what you want, but it ain't the same. For example, I could say my son just said something stupid. That doesn't mean I think he's stupid.
[i]Normal person? You mean everyone just like you?
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Nope, just the random people who work in the same office as me.
DezB +1
dressed like a whore is not the same as acting like one.
so they were like whores in the way they were dressed? Is that what was meant?
so, people like the ones in your office are what you mean by normal?
oh, and i hadn't said dressed like a whore was the same as acting like a whore.
Jeez. No Charlie. You're right, we're all wrong. You're normal, we're racist/sexist/fattist/thinnist/religionist/fascist/cyclist heathens.
Feel better now?
Jeez. No Charlie. You're right, we're all wrong. You're normal, we're racist/sexist/fattist/thinnist/religionist/fascist/cyclist heathens.
Feel better now?
No, really, what are you on about? When did i even imply any of those things?
That was the best TV for a long time.
My highlight being teh ginger kid pretending to be a dog hanging his head out of the hummer window!
Or was it when he changed into a wifebeater to cut the cake.
Or was it when she tried sitting in that dress.
Or was it...........
- Never go out alone
- Don't get the reputation of a tramp
- No alcohol before marriage
- No sex before marriageAll pretty good characteristics for a young woman to have.
Really? You think that women shouldn't go out alone incase someone labels them a tramp??? sorry, what century do we live in??
this was a quality bit of TV.
naming your son John-boy made me chuckle
Never go out alone
- Don't get the reputation of a tramp
- No alcohol before marriage
- No sex before marriageAll pretty good characteristics for a young woman to have.
Really? You think that women shouldn't go out alone incase someone labels them a tramp??? sorry, what century do we live in??
Well to a certain extent yes, do you think the contrary that young 15year old girls should:
Hang around groups of boys on their own
Have the reputation of a tramp
Drink alcohol from a young age before marriage
Have sex from a young age before marriage
?
my dress is going to be much more tasteful at my wedding.
well you said "young women" which I would take to mean from about 17-25, not 15, which I would still classify as a girl. And going out alone doesn't mean hanging out with groups of boys necessarily does it?
Did you watch the program?
He didn't say they were "whorish", he said where they dressed like whores
So If i said your wife /daughter was whorish you would be upset where as if I said she dressed liked a whore that would be OK then as they are very different?
Perhaps you could test your view in the street with random females and let us know whether they found either or both terms offensive ?
Not sure this is PC tbh I think women generally get upset when being compared to whores.
For example, I could say my son just said something stupid. That doesn't mean I think he's stupid.
and if I said your son spoke like a ****, that would be ok because i didn't say he was a ****, just that he spoke like one?
On a plus note- the man-mountain had a nice/tasteful groom attire (and the nice pink touch to match the bridesmaids) dont you think?
and after my last post you really think I can be arsed to go on discussing this? You're even more clever than your argument suggests.
It's clear that you don't want to continue discussing, and I have every sympathy with you. If I were as overstretched as you appear to be I would look for a way out too.
After all, you argue like a moron.
After all, you argue like a moron.
Are you trying to be ironic?
I love moshpits on threads
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Are you trying to be ironic?
No, but I'm writing like some one who is ironic.
After all, you argue like a moron.
Genuine LOL moment and at least he wont be offended
TO Elfinsafety
Really? So you've lived in an 'Indian Sub-continent' household then have you? Been part of such a community? Right, ok.Some of what you say is reasonable. There's just too much assumption based on preconceptions of others, without actually knowing much about the reality. That's all.
Point 1: I've been travelling in the Indian subcontinent consistently for 25 years or so, and yes I have spent time in peoples homes, attended numerous weddings, been surrounded by irate relatives for daring to speak to a female member of the household, seen first hand the outcome of so called honour assaults etc etc etc ad nauseum
Point 2: My wifes comment on the affordability or otherwise would I suspect be based on the fact that I'm a company director, we own our home outright, she is a highly paid manager, and that we are fairly affluent by southern UK standards, but would nonetheless baulk at the amount being expended on dresses and limousines for a wedding.
So could I respectfully suggest you sort your own preconceptions and assumptions out before you start on others. Oh and by the way, my research on the subject of travelling people formed part of a thesis. I did check, wikipedia is not in the bibliography.