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If this is the start of next-gen, we're in for an interesting ride.
That NBA game looks amazing.
Now to try and find a PS5...
Yup it’s a huge jump this time.
Good luck finding one Chuck most places are doing no more pre-orders it’ll probably be down to standing in a queue at midnight now.
That NBA video above looks amazing - seems like a much bigger jump from this gen to the next gen compared to when we went from ps3/xbox 360 to ps4/xbox one.
Last time I looked I could only find PS5 gameplay footage, there was very little from the xbox series x aside from some rather uninspiring looking footage of the next halo.
Has anyone release any xbox series x gameplay video yet?
I think it's telling though that PS5 AAA titles are generally announcing different modes (typically 1440p @ 60 fps and 4k @ 30 fps), I was wondering how it would manage 4k @ 60 fps when you need a decent spec. PC for that.
It's still impressive for the cost but the headline specs. are a tad misleading IMO. I'm also wondering what external storage support they'll announce as the local storage, whilst very fast, just isn't enough.
List of games and they’re modes here.
Remastered games are the ones struggling to get 4k at 60fps which is not surprising as they’re not being built from fresh just polished up.
I'm also wondering what external storage support they’ll announce as the local storage, whilst very fast, just isn’t enough.
This is my concern. I've filled a 1TB Xbox One drive. Some of the bigger installs are tenfold what you'd ever have seen on the 360. How much space is those glossy 4k assets going to take up?
Breakdown of the PS5 there’s some nifty tech in their it’s a bit if a beast.
That's a decent sized heat sink at least!
It’s a good chunk I wonder effective the liquid metal is too.
Some testers claim it’s very quiet and keeps cool.
I’m going in to Game today to pay the remaining amount for my PS5 that I preordered.
I have no real need for this, as my PS4 does all I need it to do. But, I’m actually quite excited. If it wasn’t for already having bought into PlayStation, I still don’t know which of the two consoles I’d plump for.
Anyone getting the Xbox Series X next week?
Anyone else all set for getting the PS5 on the 19th?
Am I the only one a wee bit too excited? 😀
Anyone else all set for getting the PS5 on the 19th?
Hopefully - assuming Argos doesn't cancel my pre-order (there's been some reports of orders being cancelled, possibly by staff trying to get hold of one, as they go back into stock, but hopefully that's just Internet bullshit).
I went slightly OTT (as no game is going to have a 4k @ 120fps mode any time soon) and also bought a new TV with HDMI 2.1, it's arriving in a couple of hours 🙂
I went slightly OTT (as no game is going to have a 4k @ 120fps mode any time soon) and also bought a new TV with HDMI 2.1, it’s arriving in a couple of hours 🙂
Nice!
I have been looking around a lot for the same, but cannot find anything that isn’t a tad too expensive. I’d be interested in your experience with PS5 and new Tv once you’ve given it a good testing.
I’m going in to Game today
won't it be shut (maybe not if you're in scotland..)?
what games are people getting? I bought rainbow 6 siege for ps4 (as it comes with a free ps5 upgrade and was a fiver..) - will probably get cod, but not sure on the rest..
I bought a new amp (yamaha 685) to enable 4k UHD passthrough, the newer one does 120hz but my oled tv doesn't, and I wanted dual HDMI out for a (future) projector.
won’t it be shut (maybe not if you’re in scotland..)?
Scotland, and I’m not entirely sure. I have a huge worry that I won’t be able to collect it on the 19th due to it being closed then! 😩
Paid. And I’ve been reassured by the shop, that even with stricter ‘lockdown’ measures I’ll still be able to go and collect it 😀😀😀. Two weeks today and counting.
I have a series S on order for my daughter for Christmas, which Game informed me is getting ready to send.
I want a series X for myself, but missed the boat first time around, so hoping to get one when more stock comes available. Unless anyone knows of any available (from a retailer, not ebay at twice the price)
I bought a new amp (yamaha 685) to enable 4k UHD passthrough
This is one of my current barriers to entry. I have an RV-V467 and it's "only" HDMI 1.4, I'd have to go back to separating out audio and video with TOSlink like it's 20 years ago or fanny about with ARC or something.
Pickings seem to be thin for replacements. There's only two on Richer and they're too richer for me just now. Where'd you get the 685 from, is it not EOL?
it is eol but it suited my needs better than the new one due to the dual hdmi out. Got it from peter tysons refurb store on ebay - £300 (after one of their 15% discounts) which I thought was reasonable - got £120 for the old 667, and as they look bloody identical, I didn't have to tell my wife 😀
there were a load of 585s around at reasonable prices, or go for the sony 1080 jobby thats well reviewed?
Cool, cheers. Good to know.
go for the sony 1080 jobby thats well reviewed?
Nah, go Yamaha or go home. (-:
I have a series S on order for my daughter for Christmas, which Game informed me is getting ready to send.
In the store I was in they have the new Xboxes and any additional purchases, bagged and numbered ready for collection on the 10th. It’s like Christmas come early 😀
Xbox day today.
Anyone got one going yet?
Had our Microsoft parcel turn up at about 11.
Will let the kids open it after school cos, technically, it's an early Christmas
/lockdown present for them.
I'm quite excited.
Currys finally got in touch to take my final payment last week, looking forward to the speeds and haptic feedback.
Series S has been delivered (for crimbo for my daughter), currently on the hunt for a series X for myself!
Series X delivered earlier, let the upgrades commence!
Had our Microsoft parcel turn up at about 11.
Will let the kids open it after school
If it's anything like previous gens, you want to plug it in now if you want it useable by the time the kids are home from school.
I'm gonna be all old farty and wait til after Xmas to buy a cheap Xbox One. Don't have a TV good enough to warrant the new gen consoles. If any of you early adopters want rid of their old console let me know 😉
Sorry to just jump into the thread as I've not read it all I'll admit.
Mr lad is looking at buying the Xbox with the bluray or whatever installed, he didn't preorder. What's his best chance of getting one over the next few weeks?
I haven't a Scooby? Which stores can you turn up at and queue at midnight etc?
Thanks guys.
What’s his best chance of getting one over the next few weeks?
Slim.
I haven’t a Scooby? Which stores can you turn up at and queue at midnight etc?
None in England click and collect only.
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Thanks Drac, is that the same with the new Xbox?
Argos this morning had the series x but they’re all gone now. John Lewis had the series S last time I looked (sadly not what you want Poopscoop). No doubt both the Xbox series X and the PS5 are going to be great, from what I’ve seen so far the Xbox seems to have a slight edge.
I’m keen to hear how people get on with their Xboxes over the next few days - anything to ease the wait until the 19th!
Argos, John Lewis and Asda all shat themselves today when there was stock - the UK basically DDoS'd them. I got as far as payment on Asda for the xbox series x before it crashed just as I got the message on my phones banking app to confirm the payment. John Lewis wouldn't even add anything to the basket at 08:00:30
Thanks Drac, is that the same with the new Xbox?
Not sure.
Thanks Drac, guys. I'll relay on the info, appreciated!
Depending on how much he wants one, just pat the premium on ebay?
Got my series X delivered this afternoon. So far so good - really easy to set up. Recognised 4k TV and set itself up appropriately
Atmos sound I needed to set myself - but is ace through home cinema.
What I've played so far is very much quicker to load etc and looks better than on my standard Xbox one.
Day off work tomorrow for some heavy gaming with some of the bigger games downloading overnight - see how they look and play tomorrow
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Depending on how much he wants one, just pat the premium on ebay?
Questionable warranty though?
Edit: just looked at what they are going for on eBay. Mad stuff. I'm sure he can wait.😁
Any of you early adopters selling a ps4?
I got as far as payment on Asda for the xbox series x before it crashed just as I got the message on my phones banking app to confirm the payment. John Lewis wouldn’t even add anything to the basket at 08:00:30
we got the same, trying to order one for our lad. payment page on asda then they removed it!
interested if anyone has any tips on how to get one now, or will he have to wait weeks?
I'd set up an alert somewhere like https://stockinformer.co.uk/checker-xbox-series-x that said you'd still need to be very quick as there's probably loads of people with alerting set-up. Whether MS are planning another big shipment of XBoxes to the UK before Christmas though I don't know - right now might be your best hope if some pre-order payments didn't go through and they're returned to stock.
can anyone help me with the following question;
I have an xbox one s.
I have a TV that has 4k uhd, dolby vision, HLG and HDR10, HDR10+ capability. it doesn't seem to have 120hz, but I'm trying to find out.
when I play the xbox, it plays in HDR , but I assume its not playing games in 4k ?
to utilise the full power of the xbox series x, I assume I need HDMI 2.1 inputs on the TV as well as full 120hz 4k capacity ?
would there be any discernible improvement over the one s I I was to buy the series x ?
Netflix, prime and disney+ all look great through the xbox one s on the TV.
very few games will run at above 60fps, and the human eye is pretty bad at perceiving it anyway, so the noticable improvement will be extremely minimal on a 120hz tv compared to a 60hz tv. You would get better graphics, newer games and quicker loading from a series x
You’ll be dropping a lot of the graphic quality to get 120Hz let alone 60hz.
very few games will run at above 60fps, and the human eye is pretty bad at perceiving it anyway
Is that right? I have no direct experience but all the reviews suggest 120Hz (or higher) is a much better experience. Whether it's achievable / worth the trade-offs in image quality is debatable.
when I play the xbox, it plays in HDR , but I assume its not playing games in 4k ?
The One S isn't 4K
would there be any discernible improvement over the one s I I was to buy the series x ?
Yes. Next generation tech aside, the difference between HD and 4 k is clearly noticable. I have an XBox One X ( which'll output 4k) and my boys both have One S's (which won't).
Playing the same game (Forza Horizon 4 ) on the same 43" 4K TV the graphical difference between the 4k One X and the HD One S is apparent. Same frame rate but sharper resolution.
I've got a One X, and quite a few games on it (inc forza horizon) give you a choice of either 1080p resolution at 60 fps, or 4k resolution at 30fps.
I always prefer the higher FPS option with the lower resolution.
I have no idea whether I'd notice 120fps - I suspect not, but it would be nice to have 4k AND 60fps.
At the moment, I dont see a real killer reason to get a series X, but I guess over the next 12 months stuff will start to come out that justifies it.
fantastic thanks; as I suspected. great stuff.
I'll get a series X once available.
I'm obviously going to need a new monitor to go with my new PS5 (when I can buy one).
Apparently, a 4k, HDMI 2.1 monitor supporting 120hz doesn't exist yet!
I was under the impression that consoles "supourt" 60hz or 120hz, but thats not comparable to fps on a PC.
On a PC the GPU sends frames as soon as they're rendered and the monitor displays them after its response time (e.g. 5ms). If it sends them too quickly then the monitor just doesnt get chance to display them. Freesync/g-sync if enabled then locks the GPU to the monitors refresh rate so that the GPU sends a frame as soon as the monitor is ready (otherwise you would have half a frames lag on average) which is closer to how a console works.
On a console the clocking is done at the console so it might be sending 120 frames per second in time with the 120hz clock, but that doesnt guarentee there are actually 120 different frames, it just repeats untill its rendered a new one (unlike freesync/g-sync which throttles back either the monitor or the gpu to the max the other can achieve).
TLDR example :
A monitor will show 100hz (10ms response) if thats what the gpu gives it. For the same computing power a TV will show 120hz, but 1/5 of the frames are repeats.
(I work in TV though so anything above i50 is some sort of dark magic, and still use fudges like psf).
The old consoles only usually outputted 4k at 30fps anyway, even 60fps will be a massive upgrade. Doubt any consoles will be pushing 4k at a true 120fps anytime soon - Nvidias Ampere is barely capable of that and with ray tracing it's only about 60fps.
I've tried 144hz/144fps vs 60hz/60fps gaming, there is a bit of a difference in smoothness but its only really noticeable in almost a subconscious way and it's only useful if you're a counterstrike addict.
Anyone who plays RPG's and shooters in story mode will be less impressed.
The old consoles only usually outputted 4k at 30fps anyway, even 60fps will be a massive upgrade.
It's massively dependent on which games you're playing anyway.
On a game where lots of stuff is whizzing past at high speed (Forza Horizon 4 for example) I'll go with the 1080 / 60fps option
Other games (Elite Dangerous) lend themselves much better to the high resolution , lower framerate option as some spectacular sights glide past at a much lower speed.
*sighs wistfully as he remembers the the ZX Spectrum could only display eight different colours at once*
Certainly on a PC in FPS type games high framerates are noticeable. I have a 144MHz monitor and in FPS games I play have framerate around 120fps most of the time. I can absolutely notice the difference dropping to the 60-80fps range, especially when looking around quickly. After reading the above post though I'm not sure if that translates directly to console framerates.
Personally as I'm getting a PS5 I also bought a new TV (with HDMI 2.1) but actually it was mostly for the VVR and auto-mode switching which my current TV has.
Right now it looks like PS5 games will different modes, typically either 1080 @ 60 or 120fps or 4k @ 30fps - both of which are fine on HDMI 2.0
Over time, when developers learn to exploit the capabilities of the console better, I can see them getting up to 4k @ 60fps but this is fine with HDMI 2.0 as well.
I don't see they'll get 4k @ 120fps in this console generation, a £3k PC struggles with this.
The other thing is ray tracing - it looks great but it absolutely kills a GPU, the PS5 and Series X both support it but I doubt any games will run in 4k with it anytime soon (at least not at 30fps). Even at 1080 a lot of games will only be running at 30fps with ray tracing enabled.
30fps looks like a slideshow to me but possibly I'm spoiled from PC gaming gaming (I don't have a console currently) it should be fine for quite a few types of games though (I don't intend playing FPS games on the PS5 anyway as keyboard & mouse is 100x better :p ).
The other thing is ray tracing – it looks great but it absolutely kills a GPU, the PS5 and Series X both support it but I doubt any games will run in 4k with it anytime soon (at least not at 30fps). Even at 1080 a lot of games will only be running at 30fps with ray tracing enabled.
I reckon AMD and Sony/Microsoft can pull of 60fps ray tracing with Vulkan based ray tracing - from what I've been reading the implementations are becoming a lot more efficient - I think they're using a mix of traditional methods and ray tracing to do it. Halo and Gears 5 are promising Ray Tracing at 4k/60fps.
when I play the xbox, it plays in HDR , but I assume its not playing games in 4k ?
The One S isn’t 4K
The One S isn't 4k for games. It does support 4k video.
*sighs wistfully as he remembers the the ZX Spectrum could only display eight different colours at once*
Fifteen (unless you count 'bright black' as being different from 'black'). Only two in any 8x8 character block though.
Just a heads up - it's PS5 launch day tomorrow and apparently major retailers (Currys, John Lewis, Argos, Amazon, possibly Tesco and others) should have limited additional stock to sell on the day (online). I imagine they'll go very fast and not sure what time they would be active (use stockinformer) but if anyone didn't get a pre-order sorted and wants one before Christmas it might be the best option (although Sony have said they expect more stock to become available before Christmas).
Argos have said they won’t have stocks today.
My PS5 is due between 08.30 and 12 tomorrow. 😄
12:30 to 13:30 for me - unfortunately my afternoon is packed with Teams meetings (although I don't use a camera so might be able to get away with setting it up during calls :p ). Sounds like there will be at least one big update required so might not be usable before tomorrow (especially as mine's the digital edition so need to d/l the games to).
Woo hoo! I’ve just been and collected mine 😀. Saying a quick prayer that all will work properly, before I turn it on.
Mines arrived. First update is 800mb, eta 5 mins
I recon I was playing the freebee built in game within 15 mins of plugging the console in. Very smooth so far, only annoyance is 38 emails from bloody sony when I went in and 'bought' all the games on the ps plus collection.
external hard drive is plugged in for ps4 games - has to be directly connected again which is annoying (I have a high speed USB hub) - but its working fine
Mate of mine just messaged me, he's in work today and his daughter is winding him up by sending him photos of a large Amazon box. 🤣
external hard drive is plugged in for ps4 games – has to be directly connected again which is annoying (I have a high speed USB hub) – but its working fine
Is that not just a power issue, is it a powered hub?
Mine arrived a few hours ago. Sackboy installed and giving it a whirl, hepatic feedback is brilliant feels so good. The console is virtually silent but it’s a monster.
I may have managed to nab another 2 disc versions for friends but we’ll see.
One interesting/frightening new feature is how long you played your PS4 games. Would anyone like to hazard a guess as to how long I played Call of Duty for (all CoD’s combined), say to the nearest hundred?
And I’m still pretty useless 😂
Is that not just a power issue, is it a powered hub?
no, the drive spins up fine (usb 3.1 powered hub) and is detected by the ps5 (including space used, space free etc) but it shows a message saying it must be directly connected. I guess they're concerned about bandwidth if you're using a crappy hub?
Huh. Makes sense I guess, it'll avoid "MY DRIVE DOESN'T WORK U R SUXXORS!!1!" support calls.
Got mine, luckily CoD will have finished downloading it’s updates in time for me to collect Beaker Jr from school....
luckily CoD will have finished downloading it’s updates in time for me to collect Beaker Jr from school….
no chance, there'll probably be another 50gb released in the next hour
I want some of this action 🙂
I'm a very occasional gamer on my old 360, do I want the expensive black one with drive or the cheaper white one? Would I notice the difference or will the Series S be soo much better than my 360 that it won't really matter?
TIA
I want some of this action 🙂
I’m a very occasional gamer on my old 360, do I want the expensive black one with drive or the cheaper white one? Would I notice the difference or will the Series S be soo much better than my 360 that it won’t really matter?TIA
That’s an interesting question. Probably needs someone more into Xbox than me to answer. However, I think the Series S would be more than powerful enough. It doesn’t have a dvd drive though, so you wouldn’t be able to play cheap 2nd hand games on it. You could play loads of stuff via game pass, but then you’d need to pay a monthly subscription. I think I’d be tempted in your shoes to buy a 2nd hand X box One.
Don’t do that without someone else agreeing though, as I may be wrong.
You’re jumping 2 generations it’s a world of difference, however the 3 is less powerful it’s half a next gen.
as an occasional gamer myself, I went for the drive version as it means you can pick up older games (in a few years time) second hand for pennies at CEX or ebay. Digital only and you're paying whatever the publisher demands, which might be cheap but might not..
Also depends on your broadband allowance. Modern games are huge, if you’ve a data cap you can easily swallow a whole month on one game. Also bad idea if you are rural like me and have crap speeds. Last Destiny 2 update (68gb) took 4 days.
I reckon the gap between the two X boxes will grow as developers learn to fully exploit the potential.
as an occasional gamer myself, I went for the drive version as it means you can pick up older games (in a few years time) second hand for pennies at CEX or ebay. Digital only and you’re paying whatever the publisher demands, which might be cheap but might not
This is what I initially thought, all my old games will be backwards compatible (kids can still play Lego Star Wars) and I'll not have to worry about broadband connection, it's fast enough but does occasionally drop out.
I'll keep saving the pennies.
Digital is good to share games so you can play multiplayer together and you can also share PlayStation plus.
Is download limits still a thing with broadband?
Mine is unlimited with Plusnet, it just flickers off now and again, normally around 7/8pm (probably everyone on Netflix). It's less than once a week but would still be annoying if it disrupted a download.
I spent all of the last week looking at PS5 user videos from the US, getting more than a little worried that I’d get some of the teething issues they had experienced.
However, everything has worked great. The new gui, whilst strange at first is better. I like the meta information you get with the tiles for each game or app. PS4 games play smoothly off an external hdd. The system is quiet. I’ve not noticed any noise coming from it, other than when I first put in a game disc when it was very loud but quickly quietened down (there was no noise playing a film from dvd).
All-in-all I’m cock-a-hoop, for a new console that plays games I already own 😀.
The only issue I have, is that whilst everyone else has raved about the dualsense controller, I’m finding it a tad large and far too heavy!
I think I’d be tempted in your shoes to buy a 2nd hand
If anyone on here is looking to ship on, but keep within STW, their PS4 (or Xbox i guess) drop me a message (apologies for the mild hijack)
Also interested in a PS4 whilst the hijack is in progress 🙂
Anyone want to recommend a couple of games for a new Xbox series s.
Already have Forza horizon 4, and it's great, although I don't think anyone of us has "got it" yet and really understand what we should be trying to do. But it's fun, and it's huge, and it's keeping the 6yo,7yo and 46yo entertained.
Ideally, would like something that can be played multiplayer split screen with the family. Used to enjoy Mario kart, or monkey Ball. It's been a while since we had a console, so there must be a lot I've missed. Or any recommendations for top games for under 10s.
And also something for without the kids, after they've gone to bed. Have tried red dead 2, love westerns so it seems perfect, but it just didn't click. Spent couple of hours riding circles in snow and bumping into things so it's prob just me.
overcooked? Ive quite enjoyed world of tanks, which is free too..
