[Closed] Proud To Be British Day

If you feel it is not such a day fair enough, i think you're wrong ( imho ) but why not just keep out of the thread ,

I would also suggest those of you who think the Royal family are not relevant or supported in this day and age take a look at the pictures on tele, even I am amazed at the numbers out cheering, just wish I was there

Should I just roll over for my tummy to be tickled? 🙄 Oh wait, isn't that what the UK has been doing for the last 20 years?

We have some silly young boys playing at running the country for a jape, they know diddly squat cos they've led a charmed life. Never mind eh, once they go and earn mega-bucks on the international lecture circuit following their predecessor, some other bugger will think it's a jolly good wheeze and follow suit.

UK inhabitants are being badly let down. Meanwhile this jamboree takes place costing God knows how much and where is the money coming from to pay for it? What services will be cut next?

I have no intention of watching any of it on TV and the sooner this country moves into the 21st century by dispensing with the monarchy the better.

And breathe ...

cg +1,

CG -1 but proud to be part of a nation that freely tolerates different views

Thanks mrmo. 🙂

Should I just roll over for my tummy to be tickled?

No. As a loyal and humble subject you should celebrate the great national joy bestowed on us all as a consequence of our sovereign queen's sixty years on the throne.

What's the matter with you woman ? ...... have you no pride in your Britishness ?

No wonder the country's going down the pan.

Nice handling by the Chartwell driver.

Bow thrusters innit. Anyone could do that 😆

proud to be part of a nation that freely tolerates different views

why does the recognition of such a basic human right register the reaction of [i]pride[/i] rather than[i] i should ****ing hope so[/i] ?

Its the 1940's weekend in Rammy. I've just had a pint in the pub surrounded by people dressed in period military uniform, for the blokes, and Vera Lynn-a-likes for the ladies, watched a steam train puff past while someone belts out we'll meet again, all while watching the frankly preposterous pomp and ceremony on telly. Anyone from another culture , parachuted in here, would look around and come to the perfectly reasonable assumption that we're all absolutely ****ing mental!!! Completely hatstand bonkers!!!

And THAT is what makes me proud to be British 🙂

trailmonkey - Member
proud to be part of a nation that freely tolerates different views
why does the recognition of such a basic human right register the reaction of pride rather than i should * hope so ?

For exactly your reaction. Something that we take for granted, is by no means the rule elsewhere in the world. For the fact that you feel able to *ing [well} hope so, I am proud!

Ah British eccentricity binners ....... how foreigners love us for it.

And are undoubtedly bitterly envious.

i'm glad for you thm

ditto

Something that we take for granted, is by no means the rule elsewhere in the world.

Indeed teamhurtmore, and it's the monarchy which guarantees this freedom to [i]tolerate different views[/i].

Except in a few countries where it doesn't. And a few other countries which are republics.

However spelling it with a Q is correct - like other english spellings now disappearing under assault from the colonies such as programme etc.

When was France last one of the colonies?

The word “program” was predominant in the UK until the 19th century, when the spelling “programme” became more common — largely as a result of influence from French, which has the same word “programme”.

This orgy of forelock-tugging on the Thames right now makes me ashamed to be British. Utterly boak-inducing.

If this footage of fawning, grovelling subjects prostrating themselves before the Dear Leader was coming out of North Korea, you'd be embarrassed for them.

Well Ernie, that is indeed a very good question albeit not exactly in relation to my point. Where is the causation, if any, between the existence of a monarch and the freedom to tolerate different views?

It would be great to know the answer for sure! But recently, I was on a long car journey (to visit a bike shop for a demo among other things) when there was a whole section of the program on the monarchy. It was either R4 or 5Live I guess. Among the contributors was David Starkey who was promoting his news book. Now I can't make my mind up about him, but neverthless he stated that countries that had monarchies "tended" towards more centralist political environments rather than the more extreme versions and as a result where more tolerant societies. I have meant to read his book to see what evidence that he uses to back things up, but it was an interesting idea. He may be an a*** in public (Newsnight, QT etc) but he does tend to research things pretty thoroughly!

I'm proud to be British. If all the other Brits were too then maybe there'd be considerably fewer acting like pricks.

Nonetheless; aside from the [b]minorities [/b]that are workshy scrotes, racists (of all races), on-the-piss hooligans, and self-serving MPs, journalists and bankers, I'm still proud to be British, just like the majority could be if they stopped being told that the scumbags are representative.

This orgy of forelock-tugging on the Thames right now makes me ashamed to be British. Utterly boak-inducing.

If this footage of fawning, grovelling subjects prostrating themselves before the Dear Leader was coming out of North Korea, you'd be embarrassed for them.

Why are you watching it then?

Can't win, people are miserable and it's not good enough, people are happy and it's not good enough.

Coverage is on the TV in the background here and whilst I could care more, I don't begrudge people who want to get involved. God knows some could do with something to smile about for an afternoon.

(Personally, I just think it's nice to see flags in the hands of people other than football supporters and the EDL).

If this footage of fawning, grovelling subjects prostrating themselves before the Dear Leader was coming out of North Korea, you'd be embarrassed for them.

I'm no royalist, but the big difference is that everyone on the Thames is there because they choose to be there. Slightly different to a parade in North Korea.

StefMcDef - I wonder how many of the 'fawning, grovelling subjects' are being forced to stand in the rain? Maybe they're all there because they want to be? Maybe they are proud to be British and actually like the monarchy?
Personally I'm ambivalent about the Royal family but I'm certainly proud to be British and I'm not embarrassed by, or for, the people who choose to show a little respect...

Other than the weather, its a good day to be British.

Got to agree with you there cougar. Nice to see the flag being associated with something positive! Seeing my kids waving union jacks instead of some brain dead BNP member! 🙂

I'm watching it because I'm working on coverage of it, because I'm getting paid to watch it. There are a thousand other things I'd rather be doing. I suspect there are a few others on the Thames right now who are in the same boat, pardon the pun.

The fact that anybody [i]chooses[/i] to be there "paying their respects" or whatever they think they're doing is what makes me wish I lived somewhere sensible.

There are plenty of things to celebrate about this country but the Royals and the edifice of embedded and unearned privilege that they represent are not one of them.

One of the best things about the UK is that Cassette Boy is free to do this:

Nice Jubilee-free day round here. Saw one house with bunting in the garden, but I think that was for Gala week.

Well the pageant wasn't something to be proud of - I went and you couldn't see a thing. The crowds were 20-30 deep and unless you where in the first few rows in was hopeless. I'm 6'2'' and saw nothing - felt sorriest for the kids - they had no chance. Loads of people wandering around like lost souls trying to find somewhere with a good view. I'd estimate 75% of the people there barely saw the royal barge let alone the queen.

"I wonder how many of the 'fawning, grovelling subjects' are being forced to stand in the rain? Maybe they're all there because they want to be? Maybe they are proud to be British and actually like the monarchy?"

And I wonder how many 82 years ago old, proud ladies stood up for the whole time. How long was that 4/5 hours?? Our Queen showed her respect to us by standing up and doing her duty.

Proud to be Great British because of her.

A remarkable lady.

almost no one cares about the jubilee up here as far as I can see.

😀

The fact that anybody chooses to be there "paying their respects" or whatever they think they're doing is what makes me wish I lived somewhere sensible.

Again, there's nothing stopping you from leaving.

richmars - Member

The fact that anybody chooses to be there "paying their respects" or whatever they think they're doing is what makes me wish I lived somewhere sensible.

Again, there's nothing stopping you from leaving.

Anyone know a good North Korean immigration lawyer?

The whole of this thread makes you proud to be British, all sorts of people with a multitude of views and opinions, now that's great as far as I'm concerned. The best thing about today is that we've been to our street party and had a really good time with British, Irish, Malaysian, Itailian all sorts, all enjoying the fact we got out and socialised with people we don't always see because of the busy lives we lead. That's what makes Britain great as well as real ale, pork pie, fish & chips, rain in the summer and all the stuff already mentioned, cheers!

However spelling it with a Q is correct

"The spelling barbeque with - que at the end comes from combining the standard spelling barbecue with the abbreviation Bar-B-Q, and from spelling as you speak. Though listed as an alternative in some dictionaries, barbeque is best avoided." http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_is_the_difference_between_barbeque_and_barbecue

Origin:

mid 17th century: from Spanish barbacoa, perhaps from Arawak barbacoa 'wooden frame on posts'. The original sense was 'wooden framework for sleeping on, or for storing meat or fish to be dried'

Barbecue is often misspelled as barbeque. This form arises understandably from the word’s pronunciation and from the informal abbreviations BBQ and Bar-B-Q. Although almost a quarter of citations in the Oxford English Corpus are for the -que spelling, it is not accepted in standard English. http://oxforddictionaries.com/definition/barbecue

Silly boy.

Wheras you will find other sources telling you both are acceptable - 🙂

[url= http://oxforddictionaries.com/definition/barbecue?q=barbecue ]

Barbecue is often misspelled as barbeque.

Wheras you will find other sources telling you both are acceptable...

Really? Off you go then. English or British references naturally.

I'm no royalist, but the big difference is that everyone on the Thames is there because they choose to be there. Slightly different to a parade in North Korea.

Yes, the only difference is those people on the Thames choose to be subjects, while those in NK are forced to.

And I wonder how many 82 years ago old, proud ladies stood up for the whole time. How long was that 4/5 hours?? Our Queen showed her respect to us by standing up and doing her duty.

You wonder why other 82 year olds can't do what she does? Could it be that they don't have access to the best health care that money can buy? Which incidentally, the health care system that mere mortals use is being further cut, and we have a little jamboree costing millions?

Seriously, what's great about a country that's got it's priorities wrong?

TandemJeremy - Member
almost no one cares about the jubilee up here as far as I can see.

From BBC Scotland.....

"In Edinburgh's leafy and affluent suburbs, more than 30 parties were taking place over the bank holiday weekend to celebrate the Queen's Diamond Jubilee."

"There are the parts of Glasgow, Ayrshire and Lanarkshire where red, white and blue are dyed into the fabric of life and portraits of the Queen hang proudly behind the bars."

"And while Scotland has a reputation as the part of the UK most likely to flirt with republicanism, in recent months royalist sentiment has appeared to be on the rise.
A YouGov poll last week suggested that almost three quarters of people in Scotland supported the monarchy, about the UK average."

"In Edinburgh's leafy and affluent suburbs

There are the parts of Glasgow, Ayrshire and Lanarkshire where red, white and blue are dyed into the fabric of life and portraits of the Queen hang proudly behind the bars.

the sectarian militant protestants / unionists areas. 🙄 very nasty bunch

I look out of my windows onto an area with around 25 pubs - not one has anything to celebrate the jubilee and nothing in evidence to show its the jubilee

I know its been said before but I really cannot for the life of me understand why anyone with even the smallest brain capacity would think the concept of royalty is anything other than immoral.

This pretty much sums it up for me:

TandemJeremy - Member

I look out of my windows onto an area with around 25 pubs...

My apologies, I didn't realise that

...up here as far as I can see...

Hilldodger - I know no one who is doing anything to celebrate the jubilee and I have seen nothing to celebrate it around the place at all.

Really - its a non event here

I look out of my windows onto an area with around 25 pubs - not one has anything to celebrate the jubilee and nothing in evidence to show its the jubilee

Where in Edinburgh has a view of 25 pubs? Sounds like you've got a grace-and-favour apartment in here somewhere: 😈

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Leith shore

Yes, the only difference is those people on the Thames choose to be subjects,

no they didn't. we've never been given a choice in that.

personally i see myself as a citizen not a subject.