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We stayed in a self-catering place for a few days ago. On our return I was expecting (and agreed to) an additional charge of £20 for use of additional facilities.

Just checked my bank account to find that they've taken almost twice that from me. I haven't knowingly agreed to anything other than the facilities charge, unless it's in some small print I've missed, and I'm pretty incensed that they've not even had the decency to tell me what it is or why they've done it.

It's not a round figure and whilst I've emailed them to query it and am waiting for a response, I'm expecting they've billed me for something ephemeral like cleaning or heating charges (I got the feeling something like this might happen when talking to them previously).

Now, I'm quite happy to take him to task in a "so you bloody think so" stylee, but the question I have is as per the thread subject; is it legal for companies to just help themselves to your bank account without so much as a by-your-leave, or is there a formal procedure they have to follow?

I want to be particularly careful here with regards to 'the law' because my spidey-sense is tingling; on our arrival he regaled us with a amusing anecdote about he got a solicitor involved after refusing to let the property to someone with a guide dog because they have a 'no pets' rule. I know I'm getting ahead of myself here but just thinking ahead, I have no doubts whatsoever that if I start talking about legal redress he'll call my bluff.


 
Posted : 16/03/2015 9:21 pm
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You watched £40 worth of pron over the space of a couple of nights?


 
Posted : 16/03/2015 9:23 pm
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There are several solicitors on here. I reckon you could soon whip up a legal hit squad.

Oh, and legality sounds dubious but it's deffo a small print thing.


 
Posted : 16/03/2015 9:26 pm
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You watched £40 worth of pron over the space of a couple of nights?

Must be pretty high-class stuff at twenty quid a minute, then.


 
Posted : 16/03/2015 9:27 pm
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I reckon you could soon whip up a legal hit squad.

The way I feel at the minute I'd rather whip up a sock and couple of pool balls, but that's not a bad idea.


 
Posted : 16/03/2015 9:28 pm
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He was on honeymoon, so it was only £20 x 2 🙂


 
Posted : 16/03/2015 9:28 pm
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There's always good ol' Trip Advisor...


 
Posted : 16/03/2015 9:32 pm
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Sadly, it's not worth the hassle. I'd be full of righteous fury too but it's not worth getting agitated about.


 
Posted : 16/03/2015 9:35 pm
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There's always good ol' Trip Advisor...

Oh sure, way ahead of you. The TripAdvisor / Twitter / Facebook / Popular MTB website social media mauling will depend entirely on what sort of response I ultimately get.


 
Posted : 16/03/2015 9:37 pm
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sock and couple of pool balls

The old meat and two veg?


 
Posted : 16/03/2015 9:43 pm
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Sadly, it's not worth the hassle. I'd be full of righteous fury too but it's not worth getting agitated about.

In isolation, for the sake of £20 I'd be inclined to agree, but we'd had other issues earlier (as I said, I half-expected this to happen). The honeymoon was sufficiently upset for me to want to apply the Rimmer directive which states, "no chance you metal bastard."


 
Posted : 16/03/2015 9:49 pm
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If they took money out of your bank account, I assume you set up a direct debit for them to do so? If so, the basis of DD is that the bank will refund any charges you haven't authorised. So I'd get onto the bank. If you didn't set up a DD then I'd certainly be having words with the bank!


 
Posted : 16/03/2015 10:01 pm
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Is it legal? yes sort of if you "agreed" in advance check the terms and conditions. Have a word with your bank and see if they will recall the cash on the basis of a dispute.
Must say I'd have walked away from booking as soon as he came out with the guide dog story.
Edit seen that was on arrival not on booking.


 
Posted : 16/03/2015 10:06 pm
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A load of hassle over less than £20?

Let it go, life is too short.


 
Posted : 16/03/2015 10:11 pm
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amusing anecdote about he got a solicitor involved after refusing to let the property to someone with a guide dog because they have a 'no pets' rule

he sounds like a lovely guy...


 
Posted : 16/03/2015 10:11 pm
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Is there something hidden in his t&cs saying you have to pay for any electricity you use? A funny amount could be that.


 
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A load of hassle over less than £20?

Let it go, life is too short.

I sort of agree - don't let it spoil your honeymoon more than it has already.
Exact revenge through the power of social meeja.


 
Posted : 16/03/2015 10:34 pm
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Sounds like DD? Whether DD or CC, I'd get in touch with your Bank and tell them it's an unauthorised transaction (the uplift not the agreed amount).

They'll put it on hold and investigate. At the very least, they'll bugger him about. At best, you'll get your money back.

I'd do it in your situation for £20, a phone call and some satisfaction. 🙂


 
Posted : 16/03/2015 10:37 pm
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I'm pretty sure that any reputable business would inform you of the exact amount before taking it. It may even be a condition of the direct debit facility?


 
Posted : 16/03/2015 10:43 pm
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Can't really understand people saying "it's only £20, don't bother"

If an online bike shop took almost double the advertised price off someone's card for a £20 part without authorisation, the resulting thread on here would break the bloody Internet!


 
Posted : 16/03/2015 10:49 pm
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Can't really understand people saying "it's only £20, don't bother"

If an online bike shop took almost double the advertised price off someone's card for a £20 part without authorisation, the resulting thread on here would break the bloody Internet!

It's not just about the money. Sometimes, just walking away and dealing with it in a different way is more rewarding than reclaiming the cash. Obviously the 2 don't have to be mutually exclusive, but not having to deal with difficult people on the phone can be worth more than the financial loss.


 
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amusing anecdote about he got a solicitor involved after refusing to let the property to someone with a guide dog because they have a 'no pets' rule

name and shame - my granny was blind and I'd like to tell that fekker what I think


 
Posted : 16/03/2015 10:58 pm
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Stop the presses, cage the hounds and put down the Bombers.

Transpires, this was a mistake on my part. My NEW WIFE went for lunch with an old friend, and the pub they went to had the same name as the accommodation we were staying in. Ergo, I'm a nob and sent the owners an undeserved shitogram.

In my defence the bit with the guide dog is true though, apparently you can choose who you rent to if it's your property and it's not suitable for disabled people anyway (despite one of us being, y'know, disabled but not immediately obviously so). #SpecialPleading


 
Posted : 16/03/2015 11:13 pm
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I know it's going to sound unreasonable but have you called them?


 
Posted : 16/03/2015 11:15 pm
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No Cougar this is not for you

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Posted : 16/03/2015 11:24 pm
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Trust you lot to dessert me.


 
Posted : 16/03/2015 11:47 pm
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My NEW WIFE went for lunch with an old friend

Interesting...... 😉


 
Posted : 16/03/2015 11:53 pm
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just slag em off on tripadvisor


 
Posted : 16/03/2015 11:55 pm
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You've got yourself into this trifle. You look a fool so turnover a new leaf and admit the mess you've made. You might even get some brownie points.


 
Posted : 17/03/2015 12:45 am
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I thought that dealing with complaints was your bread and butter?


 
Posted : 17/03/2015 12:51 am
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Can't really understand people saying "it's only £20, don't bother"

Absolutely, next time it could be hundreds and thousands...
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Posted : 17/03/2015 1:44 am
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🙂
Very, very good CZ.


 
Posted : 17/03/2015 3:05 am
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Absolutely, next time it could be hundreds and thousands...
shocking. You should be arrested and taken into custardy for that


 
Posted : 17/03/2015 5:36 am
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I can see Cougars point though.

£20 is not a trifling sum.


 
Posted : 17/03/2015 6:57 am
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You syllabubber.


 
Posted : 17/03/2015 8:26 am
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[i]I know it's going to sound unreasonable but have you called them? [/i]

What! Are you mad? This is the internet age.

Most folk would've waited for the explanation (or lack of) before posting... 🙄


 
Posted : 17/03/2015 9:01 am
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Must be pretty high-class stuff at twenty quid a minute

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Posted : 17/03/2015 9:55 am
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Can't really understand people saying "it's only £20, don't bother"

If an online bike shop took almost double the advertised price off someone's card for a £20 part without authorisation, the resulting thread on here would break the bloody Internet!

Well, I would have generally gone down the path of outrage etc - but in the past I've got really het up and spent ages sending various emails and reading up on various things because 'it's the principle that matters' and you don't want to let them get away with it etc. I'd have been far better off just letting it go.

Send a quick email by all means but if that goes nowhere I'd leave it, personally. Chances are there is something in the small print that allows him to do this anyway.


 
Posted : 17/03/2015 11:25 am