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As per title, how should I go about politely telling my employer that I'm happy staying as a contractor and that I'd rather gargle buckshot than be paid less to do the same job and be tied down to a permanent contract where questions will be asked if I leave.
I know how to quit a job politely but I've never been in a position where a permanent role is being suggested that I don't want to take.
Most likely it won’t matter, at my place if the offer wasn’t taken up, the contractor wouldn’t get any further work generally.
So it’s stay or go I would reckon.
Maybe say you prefer the differences that come with contracting if there are any such maybe as less meetings or beauracey or something.say it suits your work style better and makes you more efficient if you can focus on your daily tasks better maybe.
Given the current economic situation, it may be a "if you won't go permanent, you need to find another contract" situation. If that happens would you go permie or look for another contract. I have no idea what area you work in so that may or may not be the case.
Anyway, say no firmly but politely, so don't say "What? Are you mad?" but a simple "No Thank you"
I'm worried about going perm as the project is going the wrong direction, I don't want to be around long enough to see the results. So I guess it's as people say in the long run really (next year or two), either go permanent or quit.
My line of work is in pharma, so I'm very aware that I'm fortunate to be working in an industry that hasn't been hit too hard by the covid pandemic. There are plenty of other contract roles floating around at the minute and it seems companies are finding it harder to fill them at the moment as a lot of people are going permanent due to the uncertainty in the economy.
Cheers guys!
At the risk of teaching the OP to suck eggs a couple of thoughts as follows:
1. The original post referred to “employer” but it should be “client” unless the OP is working on PAYE or umbrella I.e. the contractual relationship is key.
2. If the OP is a genuine contractor I.e. working through LTD company and supplying a service then there’s a “buying some time” option. In this scenario tell the client that you’re willing to consider perm but can do anything until the end of the current tax year - as a swap in the middle of the tax year would require you to pay a higher rate of tax on the dividends you’ve already paid yourself (impact of higher salary on ltd co dividend rates)
3. If that works, negotiate in good faith towards a start date in April but make sure that the “role” is not similar to the service being currently provided - if not HMRC will be knocking on your door down the line re: IR35 status.
If you can’t delay it and the client forces the decision the only real choice is to walk because to take a perm role will create an IR35 liability.
Most likely it won’t matter, at my place if the offer wasn’t taken up, the contractor wouldn’t get any further work generally.
So it’s stay or go I would reckon.
Yup this. I’d also imagine that IR35 would be about to bite too if you seem to just be carrying out a permanent role
My stock answer when asked is that it isn't the right time for me now. I try never to close the door completely as you don't know what's coming. On the couple of occasions where the issue has been pursued more forcefully, I've just been as honest as I thought was acceptable usually along the lines of not wanting all the bullshit politics that invariably comes with a perm position.
I went permanent in a job I used to enjoy as a contractor. Performance reviews, constant meetings etc mean I hate my job now. Can't move too quickly either due to a 3 month notice period.
When you say you work in "pharma" and that the "projects going in the wrong direction" do you mean that your work on the Covid vaccine has stalled and that you are packing the family silver and heading for the bunker as we speak?
At least give your mates on STW the heads up before the world goes all "I am legend."
Hah!
The closer you are to Caesar, the greater the fear.
As per title, how should I go about politely telling my employer that I’m happy staying as a contractor and that I’d rather gargle buckshot than be paid less to do the same job and be tied down to a permanent contract where questions will be asked if I leave.
I know how to quit a job politely but I’ve never been in a position where a permanent role is being suggested that I don’t want to take.
I've got a contractor working for me who I'd really like to go Perm. As far as I know he doesn't mind the company or the work, but we had a polite and sensible discussion which went something like this:
Me: You know we'd really like someone to take on this stuff on a permanent basis, I've got a role I'm about to advertise that does this with a bit of "that" on top. I realise we would need to come a long way on salary, but if we could get to numbers that work would you be interested?
Him: To be honest, not really, I've been contracting quite a few places over the last few years and I really enjoy the variety and flexibility it provides. I can earn this much without having to deal with "that", so it doesn't really make sense to go there.
Me: Fair enough. If your thoughts change let me know. Obviously once we've filled the post and got that person up to speed we'll need to look at what your doing and see if I can still justify the cost.
Him: I totally get that. I'm happy here whilst you need me but I know its temporary.
Cheers for that Poly, it's been keeping me up at night. I'll write a response with your post in mind.