[i]When in the world does it make it ok for a 46 yr old to sleep with a school girl?[/i]
When it's for artistic merit.
Ian Munro - MemberWhen in the world does it make it ok for a 46 yr old to sleep with a school girl?
When it's for artistic merit.
and when a grown man admits to sleeping with children in his bed.....but its Michael Jackson. Hes an eternal child folks!
Remove their celebrity and they would have been arrested/vilified within no time.
What about 'famous rock star' (name removed for potential legal reasons?) who accepted that he was in possession of child porn for 'research purposes'? WTF.
Rumour as it that there's a sex tape of it.
It'll be the only Polanski directed film I've not seen.
Funny. Woody Allen looks like he should be one and isnt.
Polanski looks 'normal' and is
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Funny. Woody Allen looks like he should be one and isnt.
Polanski looks 'normal' and is
isn't he? I'm not sure having a relationship with your adopted daughter is really cricket
Junkyard: You might be being libellous in suggesting that Townsend is a paedo. Mods?
From Wiki
As part of the Operation Ore investigations, Townshend was cautioned by the police in 2003 after acknowledging a credit card access in 1999 to the Landslide website alleged to advertise child pornography.[19][20] He stated in the press and on his website that he had been engaged in research for A Different Bomb (a now-abandoned book based on an anti-child pornography essay published on his website in January 2002) and his autobiography, and as part of a campaign against child pornography. The police searched his house and confiscated 14 computers and other materials, and after a four-month forensic investigation confirmed that they had found no evidence of child abuse images. Consequently, the police offered a caution rather than pressing charges, issuing a statement: "After four months of investigation by officers from Scotland Yard's child protection group, it was established that Mr Townshend was not in possession of any downloaded child abuse images." In a statement issued by his solicitor,[21] Townshend said, "I accept that I was wrong to access this site, and that by doing so, I broke the law, and I have accepted the caution that the police have given me." As a statutory consequence of accepting the caution, Townshend was entered on the Violent and Sex Offender Register for five years.
You have a point there so to clarify he is NOT a paedo but he did pay to access a website that advertised child pornography (allegedly). Presumably an easy mistake we could all have done at any time and is/ was on on the sex register.
I incorrectly thought they had found images on his computer and he had been convicted of posessing images of child abuse. I retract the statement as I was wrong about Mr Townsend he is not a Paedo just a cautioned individual on /has been on the sex offender list.
I doubt he is in to MTB but fairpoint Buzz. Apologies Mods/Mtr Townshend
I like the idea that he's now feeling as scared as she was.
She might well have forgiven* him, but I bet her dad hasn't.
*sometimes you have to forgive, just to stop the deed from driving you bitter and insane.
*and in reference to the other thread - why do christians seem to think they've got the monopoly on forgiveness?
*sometimes you have to forgive, just to stop the deed from driving you bitter and insane.
Agree. As I said earlier. The victim can not have a say in sentencing due to cohesion, threats, persuasion and influence. Its the law who decides the punishment for this reason.
Plus, how easy would it be for a rich Felon to pay off the victim or their family to avoid jail in this case?
One or two of you may think this is a bit of an over-reaction, or that I'm being a little overly sensitive, but as an experienced mental health professional currently working within a forensic setting, people posting comments on here describing the victim as a 'hottie' or offering to 'tap that ass' concern me somewhat - are you just trying to be ironic, or are you seriously such a pair of psychopathic ****s?
OP. Is the sex good? Yes. Stay, so-so. move on.
Wrong topic. Thought I'd leave it there though as its bizarre!
Money and fame buy freedom and 'friends'.
Polanski is scum.
One of the papers has published a transcript of what he said to the child at the time. I dont know how anyone thinks that kind of approach to a kid is ever ok or forgiveable.
How the hell do you accidently pay for pedo porn Junkyard? I don't agree with that unless you are Ray Charles 8)
He ran off, they waited, he got caught.
They will have some/susp. evidence to have had arrested him and he will have to do the time/treatment etc.
Serious question mitch. Does being a "mental health professional currently working within a forensic setting" actually involve reading the internet to see whether people are entertaining deviant sexual fantasies?
I ask only for information.
One of the papers has published a transcript of what he said to the child at the time. I dont know how anyone thinks that kind of approach to a kid is ever ok or forgivable.
Society has a understanding that if someone makes it to old age before being caught he (or she) is more than likely allowed leniency on 'grounds of compassion'?
Personally I believe no matter who you are or what you've done..you do the crime you pay.
isn't he? I'm not sure having a relationship with your adopted daughter is really cricket
While his behaviour may have been grossly inappropriate, she was never his adopted daughter.
She was the legal daughter of Previn and Farrow?
surely if it does go to trial again in the usa all his money will ensure he's let off just like oj, mj etc but them he does look like phil spector so maybe he will go down
Bigdummy - can you clarify your question? Obviously, I'm bound by my professional code of conduct, and therefore can't give too much information.
How the hell do you accidently pay for pedo porn Junkyard?
Easy I'd say: Let's say you decide to pay for frot. God knows why you would, given that the Internet is creaking at the seams with free filth, but maybe your tastes are a little "specialist". So you find an advert for "hot lactating Nazi midget porn" (certainly "specialist", but not illegal) and you enter your credit card details.
Unbeknownst to you, the same site has a completely different advert that says they have kiddie fiddler stuff.
Congratulations: you just "accidentally paid for pedo porn" and despite not intending to and not seeing or downloading any of it, you will be placed on the register and your life is forever altered. 😐
"hot lactating Nazi midget porn"
💡
*starts searching*
I read a rambling (and long) editorial in the Telegraph yesterday basically it was very pro-Polanski. It did let slip (one line) that the victim had sued Polanski and he had settled out of court with her. Strange.
[i]I read a rambling [b](and long)[/b] editorial[/i]
I don't believe you. 😉
Well I cant read thats true but I followed the big pictures whilst my gf read to me after putting me to bed 😳
Hi BigDummy: I left a post yesterday asking if you could clarify your question to me - cheers.
It seems a fairly clear question, could you clarify what you find unclear? 🙂
Could you clarify what was the point that required clarification and the clarity to that point?
Sarky get! I was unsure whether BigDummy was asking if it was part of my job role to 'readthe internet to see whether people are entertaining deviant sexual fantasies?', or inferring that I was over-reacting in some way. There were a couple of posts on this thread (now removed) that were seriously worrying - one in particular calling for the age of consent to be lowered. I hear this sort of crap day in day out at work, and whilst I expect this from some of the clients I work with, I feel saddened and concerned when I read it on a chat forum involving supposedly rational people.
I think BD's asking if you're the Paedofinder General
No, just one of the many people involved in trying to minimise the risk presented by paedophiles and other sex offenders.
There were a couple of posts on this thread (now removed) that were seriously worrying - one in particular calling for the age of consent to be lowered.
So, why is the suggestion that the age of consent could be lowered seriously worrying? (no idea what was written in the (presumably deleted) post?
A quick look suggests that the age in this country is one of the higher in Europe.
It wouldn't matter if the girl had been above the age of consent: Polanski drugged and raped her.
So, why is the suggestion that the age of consent could be lowered seriously worrying? (no idea what was written in the (presumably deleted) post?
Because having sex with children (ie below the age of 16) is wrong. Do you seriously need to have that pointed out?
Because having sex with children (ie below the age of 16) is wrong. Do you seriously need to have that pointed out?
Other than legality, why is it wrong at 15, but right at 16? I wouldn't do either, but conceivably might have slept with a 15 year-old when I was 16 myself. That would have been a serious crime.
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whilst I expect this from some of the clients I work with, I feel saddened and concerned when I read it on a chat forum involving supposedly rational people.
Since when, does riding a bike make you "rational" ?
And you sound rather surprised......obviously in your professional capacity barnsleymitch, you are better informed than I am concerning the level of paedophilia in the population. But even if only 1 percent of men are paedophiles, probability suggests that there must be the odd one or two on here.
Or is there a rule which says that paedophiles don't ride bikes ? Obviously being open and honest about unacceptable sexual urges would indeed be a surprise, but I'm not sure whether you should be surprised that people with such urges exist on a "forum involving supposedly rational people". Surely your experience tells you just how normal paedophiles can appear ? 😕
ransos, a question of maturity. There has to be a line but where do you draw it? You could argue 18 however there needs to be a reasonable and legal cut off point that everyone understands. 16 is a good compromise.
Saying that 14yr olds are awakening to playing and experimenting. THATS FINE as long as its say a 14yr old boy/15yr old girl and vice versa.
Its when it becomes a grown adult that it becomes bad.
Plus theres the hes caught on this occassion. Usually these types dont dabble once and unlucky get caught the first time huh 😉
Because having sex with children (ie below the age of 16) is wrong. Do you seriously need to have that pointed out?
I'm guessing you're talking about between an adult and a minor. I'm not. At the risk of seeming dense I'm asking why sex below 16 is wrong, say between two same age persons, but ok above it, and why this country has the correct stance on this as opposed to others.
Especially as you have now opened up the argument to state that it is 'wrong' rather than 'illegal'.
Problem is, we're not talking about consentual sex between two teenagers here are we?
Look, I know I'm possibly coming across a bit holier than thou here, but I'm not some daily mail reading alarmist who sees paedophiles lurking outside every set of school gates, I do this for a f******g living. I really wish some of you could come into work with me for a day, and have to hear and see some of the things I have to. All this crap about why is it wrong at 15 but not 16 is just rationalisation, and with the client group I work with, just one step further towards acceptance and normalisation (grooming isnt just something paedophiles do to others, there has to be a point where they feel justified in what they do).
And no, I'm not the 'paedofinder general' as some bright spark on here suggested, just someone who gives a toss.
ransos, a question of maturity. There has to be a line but where do you draw it?
Quite, which is why 16 is to some extent arbitrary. I think some countries have a lower age, but with the proviso that the partner must be no more than 3 years older. Seems sensible, as it should help to stop predation by much older men.
But as I said before, none of this is relevant to Polanski. He drugged and raped her - the offence would still be horrific if she'd been an adult.
But as I said before, none of this is relevant to Polanski. He drugged and raped her - the offence would still be horrific if she'd been an adult.
Spot on. True.
Fair points. I imagine it must be hard to tone down your response at times.
The reason I was asking was that I caught a Radio 4 program the other night (iconoclasts/Prof John Spencer) who argued quite well that the law was misdirected by targetting underage sex (in all it's forms - it seems that these days a grope behind the bike sheds can get you on the sex offenders register should somebody desire) rather than the cases where one party is vulnerable.
And no, I'm not the 'paedofinder general' as some bright spark on here suggested,
That'll be Labrat.
You can understand his concern at the thought of someone taking over from RudeBoy's job.
Since when, does riding a bike make you "rational" ?
And you sound rather surprised......obviously in your professional capacity barnsleymitch, you are better informed than I am concerning the level of paedophilia in the population. But even if only 1 percent of men are paedophiles, probability suggests that there must be the odd one or two on here.
Or is there a rule which says that paedophiles don't ride bikes ? Obviously being open and honest about unacceptable sexual urges would indeed be a surprise, but I'm not sure whether you should be surprised that people with such urges exist on a "forum involving supposedly rational people". Surely your experience tells you just how normal paedophiles can appear ?
Not so much surprised Ernie, more weary of listening to the sort of crap that's been deleted from this thread. Of course I realise how 'normal' paedophiles can appear, I never expect them to turn up wearing Gary Glitter fanclub t-shirts.
I, like many folk, go to work, then come home and try and 'switch off' -an absolute necessity in my line of work, as I'm sure the other mental health workers on this forum would agree. It's just disheartening, and yes, if I'm honest, worrying, to come on here for a bit of escapism, whatever, and hear more of the same comments that I've been listening to at work all day.
