Ive got the chance of some wood which has already been felled and stacked in 6 foot lengths. There is no road access to pick it up, so it needs to be carried a hundred metres or so. I'm thinking of making a trolley which could be either towed by hand or with a quad bike.
Ive done a quick search on eBay and can find some ten inch pneumatic wheels with bearings which list their maximum load at 300kg. I've never weighed individual logs but wonder how many it would take to reach that limit.
The challenge is to build something light that is capable of carrying say 6 logs at a time along the footpath and through the gate. Is there anywhere else I should be looking for wheels?
horse. after watching extreme loggers on quest last night, any thing with thin wheels will struggle on anything but the hardest ground. wet logs are HEAVY. winch? this spring i handballed some short lengths of oak trees, hard work, but you'll know that...
and this thread is useless without pics
http://www.clasohlson.com/uk/b/Hardware/Wheels
they even do a log truck.
http://www.clasohlson.com/uk/Garden-Trolley/Pr407662000
Thanks for the link. The path to the logs is a paved/graded public footpath through a country park, so sinkage isn't a problem. What I hope to make is a mini logging truck with the logs in long lengths.
Am I right in thinking a bag of cement is 25kg?
A 25kg bag of cement weighs 25 kilos .... 🙄
Wheels - try machine mart, got a great pair for a welding trolley I made, they have a great selection ...
Have some wheels that sound like the ones you have seen on our sheeps field shelter so we can pick it up like wheel barrow and move it around the field when we strip graze them. I think they are meant for sack trucks.
tbh I would go bigger. Something like a large pneumatic wheelbarrow wheel.
Cannibalise a fat bike?
old caravan chassis? Chop out the axle and shorten it?
Try your local towsure or similar. Or dinghy trolley/wheelbarrow wheels but they are plain bearing.
Iirc the dinghy i used to sail was about 75kg with rig and two 12" trolley wheels would support much bigger dinghies plus the weight of the trolley and some one sitting/ climbing on it to do maintenance.
do you not have scrapyards up there ? go and have a mooch for inspiration
convert a wheel barrow, old boat/dinghy trailer etc,
do you not have scrapyards up there ? go and have a mooch for inspiration
I'm a serial scrap yard moocher. There is also a blacksmith in the village who always has lots of offcuts of steel which are handy for making stuff with.
I found these which are puncture proof with a big axle and bearing. Each wheel has a 150kg capacity. With four wheels that's 600kg or 24 bags of cement.
http://www.machinemart.co.uk/shop/product/details/051310395
old boat/dinghy trailer etc,
sounds like just the job.
Northern Industrial Tools do some , and normally a goodprice.
Do some small carts as well for towing behind ride on lawn mowers
mcm - I was at the arb show last week and fell in love with one of these:
http://honeybros.com/Item/Stein_RC4500_Arbor-Trolley
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really well made, but at £400 odd quid, Im not about to buy one straight away.
It was rated for 500Kg and would be perfect for extraction at the coppice.
eBay is a good source of wheels but there is a lot of junk out there.
Here's a possible design but mine will have a steerable front axle and a longer cradle.
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Stoner, £400 seems pretty steep for some box iron and a pair of wheels. It's surely possible to make one for a lot less. I'm now thinking if the load is balanced in the cradle then two wheels may be enough. The problem when the front axle turns is that it is less stable. I will do some more pondering........
agreed.
I might have a crack at making one myself.
Im more comfortable with the single axle for manoeuvrability, balancing is the key obviously.
Hire a carpet trolley from HSS?
About the best quad is barely 600kg towing capacity. You'd be looking at close to 100kg a length at a guess, so you'd need a big quad and less logs per load to not trash it.
http://www.truckstrolleys.co.uk/index.php?route=product/product&path=14&product_id=61
For the deluxe solution,but you'd need to extend the platform,and get a tractor 😛
late thought - dad used to work trees with horses - any local heavy horse enthusiasts
go flintstone - get a dirty great metal pole aka axle and two round logs with holes in middle aka wheels
MM how wide are the gates you need to get through?
Are you not over complicating this? Can you not simply drag the logs behind the quad bike, or get hold of a used motorbike trailer or small box trailer and take the end off it?
An old boat trailer would also do the job but would be a little wider - of course you could pretty easily reduce the width of the axle.
Given the weight of the logs I doubt you're going to be pulling the trailer/trolley yourself.
Ive got one of these [url= http://zero-barrow.com/ ]zero barrows[/url], with the log sled attachment and also the stacker platform.
log sled is good for big logs, and stacker barrow I can get 4-6 longer logs balanced on it.
was going to get the long platform at some point.
Got mine for £50 on ebay. Maybe an easy design to copy?
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you can also get a tow bar attachment:
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howabout a sack truck? I used a cheap one from the local tool factors to get the wheels for my kayak trailer
or wheel barrow wheels?
the zero barrow looks good, but I dont think it can take the payload Im after - 200Kg+
At the moment I can shoulder c.70-80Kg individual cords and any heavier ones, up to say 100kg I can drag. Id want something I can load with 3 or 4 60-80Kg cords and be dragged out of the coppice or two a store pile.
I was also looking at this before I got the zero barrow:
http://www.logrite.com/store/Item/ULTRA-Arch
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The gates are about a metre or more wide. Too narrow to get the Land Rover and trailer through. The wood is stacked either alongside the path or a little from it. I downtown a quad bike, though I think it might be possible to use the Ranger's one. They had a trailer they could use with it, but it wouldn't fit through the gate. That's academic anyway as someone stole it.
Stoner's trolley looks like the best solution. I can make the cradle a bit longer with an extra couple of bearers for shorter lengths. With the puncture proof tyres I reckon it will roll well. With a longer draw bar it wil be easierto tow and steer.
I think you're missing a trick here MM and quite frankly I'm disappointed. You should really be aiming to build a vehicle out of the wood and then simply drive it home.
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I picked up a pair of these from Machine Mart today, they feel up to the job.
http://www.machinemart.co.uk/shop/product/details/051310395
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I will nip to the blacksmiths tomorrow and get some box section and maybe have a go at welding something up.
McMoonter's log trolley on Saturday
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mcm - do you think that 150Kg load limit is per wheel or axle pair?
mcm - do you think that 150Kg load limit is per wheel or axle pair?
I'm thinking that is per wheel. 300kg is the equivalent of twelve bags of cement. I doubt I would load it up to that. The hub centres are 20mm. I will use some 19mm rod for the axle.
20mm. I will use some 19mm rod for the axle.
thats what I did for my wood bogey. some big washers, drilled holes and split pins.