Plumbing Question
 

Plumbing Question

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I've just disconnect my washing machine ready for a new delivery on Wednesday.

Now I've discovered a potential problem The drain from the kitchen half-sink enters the down pipe (left) directly opposite the WM drain (right) and with the WM disconnected water is running out onto the floor when the half-sink is emptied. I've re-connected the WM for now to stop this happening.

It seems that every time we've emptied the half-sink, water has potentially been going into the back of the washing machine. Is this a problem and if so what is the fix?

Ta.

https://imgur.com/a/fAzE4WB


 
Posted : 13/01/2025 7:14 pm
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I think there is usually a rubbery flap thing (a very basic one way valve) in the dishwasher side to prevent exactly that.


 
Posted : 13/01/2025 7:17 pm
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There's no valve at the end I disconnected. Do you reckon there's one at the machine end? BTW it's washing machine not a dishwasher (if that makes a difference)


 
Posted : 13/01/2025 7:42 pm
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If it's only a 'half' sink...would the water pressure from emptying it be enough to drive the water into the washer drain? Looks like the water would have to go 'up hill' a bit to reach the flexi-hose in the pic...?

Try it..fill the sink up and disconect the washer hose, then drain the sink....does it spew water out?


 
Posted : 13/01/2025 7:45 pm
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Thanks mattyfez.

I've just tested it and even with hose angled up as much as I can, water is still coming down it. With the hose off it spews out, with the hose connected it trickles.


 
Posted : 13/01/2025 7:51 pm
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As Mattyfez says it looks like there would need to be enough pressure to force the water a fair distance uphill. More likely it’s entering the plastic coupling / lower part of hose then draining back. Can you disconnect the hose at the washer end then test it?


 
Posted : 13/01/2025 7:59 pm
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Instructions here...

PS it looks like it's been tightened with water-pump pliers; hand tight should be fine


 
Posted : 13/01/2025 8:04 pm
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As above stewmur, yes I've confirmed it's coming down the hose.


 
Posted : 13/01/2025 8:07 pm
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You can get a non return valve that could be installed on the washing machine line to stop the flow.


 
Posted : 13/01/2025 8:10 pm
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Instructions here…

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Right - so I need to get the hose looped higher than the  top of the half-sink. That makes sense.


 
Posted : 13/01/2025 8:16 pm
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I've just checked my configuration out of curiosity...it appears to be similar to yours other than the addition of a gray plasic clip thing that keeps the washer drain hose looped up... maybe something like that would work/fit in your space?

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Posted : 13/01/2025 8:30 pm
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Matty, please get a blanking cap on that isolation valve. They aren't meant to be left disconnected like that 😉


 
Posted : 13/01/2025 8:39 pm
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Matty, please get a blanking cap on that isolation valve. They aren’t meant to be left disconnected like that

I'd just noticed that myself, hahaha, yes sounds like a good idea, although it's probably been like that since the days of washing machines needing a hot water feed!

Something like this? https://www.toolstation.com/made4trade-compression-blank-nut/p94738

(sorry for the thread hijack OP)


 
Posted : 13/01/2025 8:42 pm
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3/4 bsp blanking nut for washing machine outlet.

What you have is a 1 + 1/2 bowl appliance trap . It should be plumbed in with a bigger rise on the waste from the washing machine . 1.5mtr and 2.5mtr versions are available with a plastic crook to help support the lift. Swaged 17mm connectors are also available to join  2 x 1.5mtr hoses together to enable a longer run .

You may need to slightly re -engineer the design to give you more room . Mcapline do a sink waste bsp to compression 40mm adapter so you can do a cut and shut.


 
Posted : 13/01/2025 8:57 pm
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Matty, like this, with a rubber washer/rubber disc https://plumbinbits.co.uk/product/brass-3-4-cap-washer/


 
Posted : 13/01/2025 10:26 pm