Photos you have taken in the last month of which you are proud?

Very striking image that 2nd one Waswas. Last place I expected it to be was Ditchling Beacon!

Some great pics here, keep them coming!

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Maybe this is because a portrait will be more personal the the photographer and have little or no emotional connection for the viewer?

Possibly; it's certainly true what you say and I've experiened it myself many times (it's why I call the land/seascapes I do 'crowd pleasers') What's odd though is that the phenomenon isn't typically replicated with painting or sculpture so I suspect it has more to do with what people typically expect to see presented as either a painting, sculpture or photograph.

That itself has something to do with the fact that painting and sculpture is inherently more 'skillfull' than photography; most people cannot conceive of painting something like a Rembrandt or a Freud so they engage with painted portraiture more at the level of the technical skill even if the artist probably still sees his or her genius in the portrayal of the human condition. They can conceive of taking a photograph though (millions of us do it everyday) so the simple presentation of a photographic portrait doesn't tend to inspire all that much.

What I think they miss is the ability to communicate a sense of the human condition, which is what makes photogrpahic portrait every bit as valid a means of reflecting ourselves as painting or sculpture.

A landscape appeals at an aesthetic level though, something that most people can engage and apprecaite, hence why I think those types of work tend to be more popular.

Agree with most of that (although identifying quite strongly with the Romantic tradition, I'd perhaps argue that landscape too can say a huge amount about the human condition).

And yet, apart from Ansel Adams perhaps, most of the 'famous' photographers a layman might know will be portrait makers.

Guess that says more about how photography has traditionally been made accessible to the public though through commercial channels (although that's obviously changing now).

And now some more (not very anthropomorphic at all) leaves.

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Some snaps from WRGB yesterday
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_MG_7077[/url] by [url= https://www.flickr.com/photos/107347896@N06/ ]Richard Picton[/url], on Flickr
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_MG_7080[/url] by [url= https://www.flickr.com/photos/107347896@N06/ ]Richard Picton[/url], on Flickr
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_MG_7099[/url] by [url= https://www.flickr.com/photos/107347896@N06/ ]Richard Picton[/url], on Flickr

although identifying quite strongly with the Romantic tradition, I'd perhaps argue that landscape too can say a huge amount about the human condition

Oh apologies buddy, I worded my original sttement poorly because I didn't intend to suggest that landscape work doesn't also comment on the human condition; far from it, I think it's one of the most powerful, evocative and accessible ways in which we can do this. I referenced Constable earlier on this page/thread and 'The Hay Wain' is perhaps a great example of this (does it squeak into the Romantic period?)

And yet, apart from Ansel Adams perhaps, most of the 'famous' photographers a layman might know will be portrait makers.

Guess that says more about how photography has traditionally been made accessible to the public though through commercial channels (although that's obviously changing now).

Yes that's also very true though I think the reason that people like Bailey and Liebowitz are so well known is because their subjects are. Sadly I think that speaks more about celebrity culture than it does talent.

Quite pleased with this on my Moto E4 (rubbish camera really)
Location and light makes up for crap tech though.

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If you don't mind, allow a rather poor, part-time photographer to add his 2c: I think photographs are very much like paintings, in that you should allow the viewer to attach their own emotions and meanings to the scene. This is the reason why photos where the meaning behind them have to be explained, don't do it for me.

I know it's not always possible, but perhaps a subtly place artefact may help guide the viewer, but still allow a certain amount of interpretation.

Landscapes, cityscapes, abstracts etc. work on many levels because they are essentially Rorschach tests, allowing the viewer to find, and apply, their own story.

IMO etc etc/

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still having fun with my fuji X-E1 and various manual focus lenses..

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We really need a like button. So much good stuff in this thread.

Todays effort...

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A little over a month ago now
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geetee1972 - Member
Oh apologies buddy, I worded my original sttement poorly because I didn't intend to suggest that landscape work doesn't also comment on the human condition; far from it, I think it's one of the most powerful, evocative and accessible ways in which we can do this. I referenced Constable earlier on this page/thread and 'The Hay Wain' is perhaps a great example of this (does it squeak into the Romantic period?)

[qoute]Yes that's also very true though I think the reason that people like Bailey and Liebowitz are so well known is because their subjects are. Sadly I think that speaks more about celebrity culture than it does talent.
Totally agree. The point I was trying to make that you put much more succinctly.

mikey74 - Member
If you don't mind, allow a rather poor, part-time photographer to add his 2c: I think photographs are very much like paintings, in that you should allow the viewer to attach their own emotions and meanings to the scene. This is the reason why photos where the meaning behind them have to be explained, don't do it for me.
I know it's not always possible, but perhaps a subtly place artefact may help guide the viewer, but still allow a certain amount of interpretation.
Landscapes, cityscapes, abstracts etc. work on many levels because they are essentially Rorschach tests, allowing the viewer to find, and apply, their own story.
IMO etc etc/

Conversely, if the meaning of an image comes entirely from the artist's intentions, how can a viewer ever work out what the image means?

It's clear (to me) that the truth is probably somewhere in the middle of those two extremes - without intention the image would never be created in the form it is, and without an audience to add their own spin to the image's meaning the image has no 'life'.

Beard stroking over. Let's get back to the photos!

I don't think the meaning of the image solely lies with the viewer: Of course the photographer can apply their own intentions, but the issue lies with what is conveyed to the viewer.: Do you give them everything? Do you give them nothing? As you say, I think the answer lies somewhere in the middle.

in that you should allow the viewer to attach their own emotions and meanings to the scene. This is the reason why photos where the meaning behind them have to be explained, don't do it for me.

Sometimes a narrative is required, but in this instance it's back to portraiture. I posted two pictures of my terminally (so we were told) ill mother and at least one poster (apologies, can't remember who) was notably moved. Without words, they were just two pictures of an ageing woman.

On that note, there is now no sign of the lymphoma that was going to take her away from us, her surgeon is amazed.

Anyway, pictures...

Pictures

I met this guy sporting this very fetching headgear as a warm up for Halloween (his partner, bless her, was quite mortified but still very supportive!)

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A few shots from a trip to the Schobrunn Zoo in Vienna this week. All taken on a Olympus E-M10 mkII. The big cat photos were taken handheld, manual focus, with a 135mm (so ~270mm equiv on the Oly) 60 year old Soviet Jupiter 11 lens.

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and some film

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Rainshadow on Kunanyi

Daughter and her b/f

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Brighton Pier at Sunrise 😀

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Lonely tree..
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Bolts Law Grouse Butt..North Pennines
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Unedited low-res JPEG straight out of camera (Fuji X-T10 w. 18-135mm)

Kayaking up in Teesdale at the weekend, the light on the river was rather nice. This is one of my mates running the Dog Leg rapid on the Upper Tees.

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Like the scooter shot.
great location of that tree hodgynd, black and white square, tree to the right a bit, path leading upto it, more light on the tree?

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or even back up there in winter with some snow Hodgynd?
Like the beach shot GT.
Nice light on the street shot Kiwi, looks very frontier like.

Where was "Still" taken Soaking?

Thanks Andy, if you mean the Slick(the beetle) Mold North Wales. let me know if yo want co ords. there were about 10 or so beetle shells there

Cheers Soaking, interesting spot, where was "Still" taken?

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I'm no photographer but this is one I like.
Austria a few weeks ago

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Liverpool Anglican cathedral, I park here every day.

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sorry Andy. this is where still was taken 58.202733, -6.953841

Cheers Soaking, it looked very much like a little harbour i saw and took a photo of, not surprising as it was just off the Golden Road. Thought the landscape looked familiar!

Elsewhere on the OH

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you are welcome Andy. Nice mono shot too

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There's also a blog post that goes with the encounter:

[url= http://www.tearsinrain.co.uk/blog/2017/11/20/hnkutinif8razmkqxtzavfpi4defsn ]Danny Champion of the World[/url]

[url= https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4577/26810907679_d1fb2a8c12_c.jp g" target="_blank">https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4577/26810907679_d1fb2a8c12_c.jp g"/> [/img][/url][url= https://flic.kr/p/GRbULX ]Brighton-3[/url] by [url= https://www.flickr.com/photos/john_clinch/ ]John Clinch[/url], on Flickr

Better than the B&W one...

[url= https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4584/38525464601_fac1b5a947_b.jp g" target="_blank">https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4584/38525464601_fac1b5a947_b.jp g"/> [/img][/url][url= https://flic.kr/p/21Gn5qi ]2017-11-19_06-37-39[/url] by [url= https://www.flickr.com/photos/91703444@N06/ ]20ston[/url], on Flickr

My first attempt at both self portraiture and use of an off camera flash - need to learn to use the flash. The focusing was a bit of guesswork. Taken tonight.

[url= https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4582/38529488466_2f45e80fca_k.jp g" target="_blank">https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4582/38529488466_2f45e80fca_k.jp g"/> [/img][/url][url= https://flic.kr/p/21GHGzh ]DSC09810[/url] by [url= https://www.flickr.com/photos/85252658@N05/ ]davetheblade[/url], on Flickr