Got a few problems and can't get out to investigate the all properly plus want some advice from the mechanics on here:
1) I've gt a whirring noise coming from the aux belt area. I don't think it's the belt itself as I've sprayed it witha bit of lube and the noise hasn't gone. I think it's probably the alternator bearings - would this mean a brand new alternator or could a garage [other than pug] rebuild the existing 'cost effectively'?
2) I get the dreaded 'anti-pollution' fualt light come up every now and again. Had it hooked up toa reader twice but no error codes are registered, waiting for the light to come on long enough so I can get it to the garage and get it read then to see if something actually registers. Been advised on the EGR sensor may be sticking open? Any ideas how to tackle it to clean the sensor?
3) 'Catalytic Converter' fault came up just now, I normally just rev it up when I've just started it and it's fine but this time nothing, felt like dricing in safe mode and was a bit of a 'put-put' engine noise - thinking the cat might be on it's way out despite looking ok. Any thoughts [other than final point]?
4) Need to service the car and think I should change the spark plugs. Not sure if these would cause any engine idle irregularities / 'put put' noise as in point 3. Also I'm pretty sure this car has the iridium point sparks in but is there any advantage using iridiums [at £12ea] against standard ones [at £2ea]. Someone has mentioned performance but I'm not 100% sure on this one.
ANy help would be most appreciated
Which engine is it? - Noisy aux belt is usually tensioners when was the aux belt changed if at all? EGR valves cannot usually be cleaned a new one is almost the only way to cure it.
depending on the iridium plugs they could be your problem i know there only a spark plug but there is 1 make of the plugs which is known to cause a problem with pugs.
i am a moderator on 206info.co.uk there is plenty of info on there and i am sure there is plenty of answers to your questions there
hope this helps.
The anti polution fault and cat fault are common problems on a puegeot. I have a 2 litre petrol 307 and the anti pollution light had been on for years, garage has tried to fix it but it keeps coming back. Fun car to drive in 2 litre mode but in all honesty it's a pile of junk plagued with electrical faults.
genrally its the EGR valves depending on model and another common part is the oxygen sensor on the CAT they tend to fail and cause all sorts of problems.
1, like above, prob a tensioner pulley, have u had the cambelt changed recently?
2,egr valve, take it off, spray some brake cleaner inside and see if it makes a difference. if yes replace it.
3, cat convertor is either o2 sensor or map. check o2 sensor functioning as should.
4, cheap plugs but are shit, iridium are stupid expensive and to be honest not designed for a 206. go for some NGK's BUT DONT BUY cheap as you will give your self more probs
Thanks for the reply guys. Its a 1.6 16v so not covered in a Haynes unfortunately.
I have a feeling the belt noise could be the tensioners but if I put a screw driver against the alternator and put my ear to it I can hear a little screaching which can't be heard if put against the power steering motor [or not as clearly]. Could be feedback from the tensioner into the belt though. Would rather change a tensioner than the alternator that's for sure. Not had the cambelt changed but it will be changed next visit to Wales, car has done 60k and it will be due in next 20k but will get it done sooner to be on the safe side.
Anti pollution I think is EGR not sure what I'm doing with it but Haynes just about covers it so will follow that. Is taking it off relatively straightforward? Got to take the air box out to change the filter anyway. Oxygen sensor - on top of manifold? Think that an easy swap from what I can see.
As far as the plugs, I was going to go for some Bosch Super Plus', I've been advised against NGKs by a number of people as they apparently don't agree with Pugs.
I know what you mean Gary, my car is fun to drive but plagued with issues. WIll get these few issues sorted and look at an upgrade
i built cars and wouldnt use anything else. i found they are more constant in quality.
ive got 3 peugeot 106 rallyes and rebuilt ALOT. only used them. we used to use the iridiums for our subaru and mitsi rally cars. 300bhp and torque think its a little over kill on a 206 imho.
but by all means try, just speaking from our experience.
i got your model engine on my laptop if u need any diags or wiring figures let me no
Thanks Nick, I've resorted to getting my local garage to do a full service for me so they will look at what's in there and what Pug originally specified but looking at the Pug parts it looks to be a standard plug. I agree and don't think iridiums are what should be used as they would be opverkill but they are down on the service intervals as being changed every 40k which is normal for iridiums. First time in four years for someone else to do a service but I can't shift this man flu and don't think sitting on a cold concrete deck is going to do me any justice. Are you looking at Documentation Technique AP by any chance? I'll sort the other bits out in a week or so when I feel a bit better.
ive got peugeot online and citroen aswell as autodad, so got a few bits to look at....
dont blame you about cold concrete. done a hg on a friend of a friends 306 on the 27th and was just too cold. lost fingers and hands after 5 mins.
nick
Car has had it's service and touch wood seems better so far. Engine management light has gone off - fault code reader was saying multiple misfires with the majority happening in cylinder 4. Still got the aux belt issue but the garage confirmed my initial thoughts to it originating from either the alt motor or the ps motor. Going to try and find a shorter belt so that I can bypass one of them and see if the noise persists
Car has had it's service and touch wood seems better so far. Engine management light has gone off - fault code reader was saying multiple misfires with the majority happening in cylinder 4. Still got the aux belt issue but the garage confirmed my initial thoughts to it originating from either the alt motor or the ps motor. Going to try and find a shorter belt so that I can bypass one of them and see if the noise persists
It's an alternator or a power steering pump, they're not motors. Remove the auxiliary belt, run the engine and check whatever noise you're implying disappears. At same time rotate both components by hand to check for play and bearing condition etc. This shorter belt diagnosis method is a new one on me. Removing auxiliary belts is easy, just identify the tensioner and use a spanner or wrench to work against the tensioning spring.
On balance maybe you should have asked whoever carried out the (basic) service to further diagnose the faults for you. Or maybe they were incompetent, or you too broke to pay them for the effort? If the latter I can recommend a bicycle as a good form of transport.
I've had the misfortune of keeping my other halfs 206 on the road for the past 3/4 years
If it's Misfiring well worth changing the coilpack - very common fault, absolute piece of cake & £25 for a patent part. Her's has gone twice & it took 10 mins to replace including putting new plugs in as a precaution
I've had the aux belt off an it's definately coming from something on on that drive. Definitely not the engine related. Tensioners all appear fine and so does the alternator and power steering pump. They all turn pretty smoothly with no play. If I put a long screw driver against the alternator or PS bodies there is a major humming coming from the
But because the PS Is fixed on top of te alternator I don't know if it's resonating through it. If I put on a shorter belt just to include the alternator then I can find out if under tension it's that causing the noise. Both u it's are functioning properly so it's more of an annoyance at the moment.
Drapoon - I bought the car as a cheap but newer alternative to my old 306. It was a cat d write off and 2005 plate with 38k on the clock and only cost 2k to buy and repair a year ago. Since having it I've found out what a crock of sh*t these cars are and are constantly going through coil packs and otter misfire issues. Been lucky with mine though so far I guess. Just trying to find a nice new golf gti instead!
Yup they sure are a total crock of sh*te fella
I have a mk5 golf gti myself, lovely car go for it!