Holy cow on a stick - I went out in the car today for work and saw a Shell garage selling unleaded at 1.7? and diesel at £1.8? (Can’t remember exactly).
What’s the most expensive you’ve seen it?
I last filled up at a Sainsburys and it was circa £1.47 a litre I think. I have a plug in hybrid car so am trying to use the electric as much as possible but I have a 500 mile round trip to do soon and I fear it’s going to cost quite a bit!
I fully understand why - the Ukraine thread is to discuss the reasons why so keep that out of this thread!!
Call it schadenfreude but I'm laughing inside at this as I cycle past the forecourt (but not as much as last year when there was panic buying and queues a mile long) 😀
Tbf that's not a lot of money to poison kids and destroy entire ecosystems.
I have stopped using my car unless emergency. I cannot afford £1.80 odd for diesel plus the additional on gas/leccy. Standard petrol was £1.60ish at our local tesco forecourt the other day. And, anecdotally, Mrs Fazzini swears that the new petrol E10 doesn't last as long.
Petrol £1.58 and diesel £1.68 at the local cheap garage.
Already had conversations with MrsMC that we may have to reduce "leisure" driving.
And just as my employer is demanding we all go in 3 days a week - 25 miles a day and new job/responsibilities make going by bike logistically a pain in the bum now.
I've seen a picture of £2.06 from a colleague.
Tbf that’s not a lot of money to poison kids and destroy entire ecosystems.
No. You're right. We'll let them starve by not being able to get to work and earn a living, so end up on benefits and not be able to do lots of things etc etc etc. Shaming folks didn't take long on this thread did it?
And, anecdotally, Mrs Fazzini swears that the new petrol E10 doesn’t last as long.
it doesn't, your car will run something like 5-10% less efficient on it.
On Wednesday the Texaco over the road from the office was trying to sell diesel at 1.95/l, making the BP 200m down the road look positively reasonable at 1.73.
Yep, was 1:50 for petrol and 1:60 for diesel today in Mansfield.
Remember it being less than a pound in the first lockdown.
My fuel bill has nearly doubled and don't know how some closer to the bread line are coping.
Cycled past my local garage on 3rd March, saw diesel at £1.57 and thought that I'd best fill up fairly sharpish. Didn't go that day, ended up going on the evening of 4th March and in that time it had gone up to £1.64.
Now, a week later, it's at £1.70.
Most expensive I've seen was a fairly rural garage selling diesel at £1.89
Still cheaper per litre than decent beer! 🤣🤣🍺
Everyone knows that this is going to hurt and everyone needs to make changes. It's also possibly going to drive some useful environmental benefits.
The problem is, society has been building away from those necessary changes for decades, despite knowing this was where we were heading.
I remember being in school 30 something years ago learning that has and oil were a finite resource.
Nothing we can do, I'm not gonna drive less just because the price has gone up. The largest cost in car ownership is still the depreciation cost which you pay while the car is sat on the drive so you may as well use the thing.
In time we'll all just adjust anyway because that's what you do.
MrsDoris paid £1.62 on Wednesday for unleaded (abergavenny Sainsburys i think), and on Thursday we saw £1.70 in Dursley. A colleague has seen it at £2 near them.
Fortunately, we only get through one tank every 6-8 weeks, so it won't be too bad for us. But all the people in the EV thread who have to tow a caravan to the alps and back every other fortnight will be feeling it.
Unless you're moving a significant load or are disabled using a car for trip of <1 mile is frankly a joke.
Nothing we can do, I’m not gonna drive less just because the price has gone up
and there in one sentence is why most of the world will be uninhabitable in a few decades
Unless you’re moving a significant load or are disabled using a car for trip of <1 mile is frankly a joke.
And that is a random post that's doing a hell of a lot of heavy lifting. No one mentioned doing trips of less than 1 mile....
The largest cost in car ownership is still the depreciation cost which you pay while the car is sat on the drive so you may as well use the thing.
Your doing it wrong mate
Really short trips get all the hate but they don't use up that much fuel because they are so short. Driving across the country for meetings or commuting 30 miles a day is far worse.
Still cheaper per litre than decent beer! 🤣🤣🍺
Yup...tastes like shit though
Really short trips get all the hate but they don’t use up that much fuel because they are so short.
Fair point but they do contribute to local congestion and pollution.
Filled my works lorry up at £1.61.9 yesterday, same garage was £1.71.9 today.......
I'm pleased I cycle to work.
I've just started a new job with an 81 mile round commute, the price rises are hurting quite a bit! It's not for too long though, hopefully I'll get confirmation I've got the job permanently then it'll be a case of moving close enough to cycle commute again.
What's scary is that the full hit of what's going on in Ukraine hasn't come through the system yet according to the company fuel card issuer (won't say who it is but it's one of the main oil companies). They're expecting prices to go up a decent amount more over the next two weeks then stay there for a while.
The largest cost in car ownership is still the depreciation cost which you pay while the car is sat on the drive so you may as well use the thing.
More you should keep on top of maintenance and not buy a new one until you need to. A few of my friends and family keep on saying I should change mine as it's 9 years old and has done nearly 140k. They can't see why I would spend a few hundred on getting new dampers for it and getting the A/C serviced as the whole car will be junk in the next year. Apart from the fact it runs smoother than it ever has, is still returning 50mpg+ without too much trouble, is still completely rust-free and has been paid for since it was 3 years old. If I fail to get it to 200k and 15 years old I'll be disappointed.
1.70 for unleaded and 1.80 for diesel at the esso down the road (small town just outside of Newcastle). Traffic still bonkers.. I do wonder what the tipping point will be to noticeably reduce car use.
Where did my post go?
... And mine! Looks like Putin at work.
Shaming folks didn’t take long on this thread did it
Its pathetic.
Most people on this forum have no idea how people less fortunate than themselves live, they really don't. To be honest I didn't until I got this new job and my eyes were opened.
Certain
Mostpeople on this forum have no idea how other peopleless fortunate than themselveslive - or care
I do wonder what the tipping point will be to noticeably reduce car use.
Conspiracy theorists might perhaps suggest that it's OPEC's revenge for its lockdown drop in profits 🤔 I would suggest nothing of the sort of course 🤣🤣🤣
Was that "small town" in the vicinity of Whitley Bay?
I paid 1.669 for Shell premium diesel two weeks ago. I just paid 1.759 for Texaco standard diesel.
I'm cycling to work and only using my car for longer journeys but as someone who isn't an IT contractor, middle management or dentist it's bloody painful.
Most people on this forum have no idea how people less fortunate than themselves live, they really don’t. To be honest I didn’t until I got this new job and my eyes were opened.
absolutely true and it infuriates me. However both me and my missus spent our entire working lives doing our best for the poor, the disabled and the unwell. You see a lot more of life then and see how many folk are so shafted deliberately by government policy
surprised I haven't seen more people on bikes on my commute but mustn't have reached tipping point yet🤷♂️
Ebiker with my charger plugged in the office at work or 16year old 55mpg depreciation free Berlingo.
Traffic still bonkers.. I do wonder what the tipping point will be to noticeably reduce car use.
i was wondering about this yesterday.
where i live had a fuel shortage in november/december. everyone was driving in a more economical fashion.
petrol is now $2.20/litre and people are driving in an uneconomical fashion (way over the speed limits everywhere).
my conclusion was that if you want people to drive less and with an eye on consumption then petrol would need to be rationed.
edit: and good public transport would help.
my conclusion was that if you want people to drive less and with an eye on consumption then petrol would need to be rationed.
Motorists paying the true cost without the massive public subsidy would help.
I filled up earlier, and cost £118 to fill a 5 series.
This driving malarkey is bloody expensive
Well the good news is that Brent crude has dropped to $111 a barrel from a high, earlier in the week, of $139.
I wonder how long that drop will take to get to the forecourts?
Motorists paying the true cost without the massive public subsidy would help.
Where's this subsidy you speak of?
🤣 it wasn’t.. South of the river so technically Gateshead!
There is something south of the river??? Its true! Every day is a school day 😉
It’s still too cheap
Motorists paying the true cost without the massive public subsidy would help.
interestingly, in canada the oil industry is massively subsidized. it is reckoned that if oil lost its subsidies renewable alternatives would be a similar price.
and this is happening while the government is subsidizing the purchase of electric cars, which as i understand it, simply pushes the issues of pollution upstream.
i also wonder how governments will make up the shortfall in duties when everyone is using electricity and not petrol in their cars. (obviously, there will be higher taxes levied on electricity used for cars but then the low-running-costs-that-offset-the-cost-of-a-new-car-you-didn’t-need argument goes out the window.)
interestingly, in canada the oil industry is massively subsidized
That's a myth. There are complex royalty/tax schemes to incentivise the exploitation of marginal resources. That isn't the same thing as handing over taxpayer money.
yeh, but…
do the alternative fuel industries get the same?
if you could share a link to a info, i’d be interested. (that’s not a passive aggressive chalange)
Where’s this subsidy you speak of?
roads apart from major trunk roads and motorways are paid for by local taxes levied on everyone. Major roads and motorways from general taxation
Deaths and illhealth caused by car drivers are paid for from general taxation Each death cost the country a million pounds on average
roadside car parking - that valuable land monopolized by car drivers - thats worth a lot of money average £1000 per car is the value of your free roadside parking
Motoring taxes only amount to a fraction of the true cost of motoring and these above are only some of the costs of private motoring that are paid from general taxation
Its a massive subsidy to private motoring