Huddersfield area has been chilled for 3 or 4 days. Back to wafting around filling up when the light goes on. It’s grim up north.
I managed to duck the mayhem through 3/4 full tanks when this kicked off, economical driving and WFH (but still did a return trip to Berkshire in between).
Still big problems down here (Bromley – SE London) i rode past about 6 garages yesterday morning, all were either closed or selling food/drinks only – none had any fuel.
I got fuel yesterday in the Co-op petrol station in Biggin Hill. I suspect that there will still be fuel there this morning.
It was delivered yesterday afternoon by the army and they had a team of civilians to deal with the actual unloading, it seemed to take them forever.
The guy at the counter said that normally a delivery like that would last about a week but that the last load lasted only 48 hours.
There was a forty quid limit yesterday, I don't know if that will make it last longer.
Edit : It was a relief to finally get fuel as I drove past 8 other petrol stations without any, and according to my car I only had sufficient for another 22 miles
Is it getting back to normal most places? I drove into Southampton last night, passed about 4 petrol stations all open, no queues. Looked pretty normal there, only about 30 mins from where I live, where it's been utter chaos.
(not a cue for everyone in Scotland to go "it's been normal here for days!" 😛 )
Think so, we're in the SE where it's been pretty bad and the Shell near work didn't even run out yesterday! Managed to keep my head down throughout the whole thing as I do very few miles, hopefully be able to fill up next week with no queues.Is it getting back to normal most places?
Not had to fill up for 2 weeks as been working within walking distance, back to the other site today so needed a bit to get through the week. Christ Alive ! prices up by 5p / litre - anybody reckon they will come back down when this blows over ?
Helped out directing the long queues at my local rural garage this week, virtually every driver that went by me wound their window down and said 'Its the media stirring up all these idiots who are panic buying, look at them, have they no sense?!'
Not one of them realised they were panic buying, Happy days
Not one of them realised they were panic buying, Happy days
I buy as a precaution, you buy out of concern and they panic buy.
There was a forty quid limit yesterday, I don’t know if that will make it last longer.
If you're making a long journey, is it ok till up £40 each at different pumps until the tank is full? 😀
When I filled up my OH's car last week there was a £30 limit. I did wonder if I could just stick my card back in (pay at pump) and get another £30's worth.
Irrelevant either way, she drives an Up! so thirty quid is pretty much a tankful.
Passed three petrol stations on the way to work (Bucks, Northants) all out of fuel
Not one of them realised they were panic buying
How do you know any of them were? I ran out of fuel and had to queue to get some. I didn't panic, but I needed to go somewhere in my car and the only choice was to queue. I hadn't put any in the tank since early September prior to that.
Are we still blaming the public?
“ Christ Alive ! prices up by 5p / litre – anybody reckon they will come back down when this blows over ?”
This.
Had to put fuel in our second car so my wife could do her job and it was a smidge under £1.50 a litre for the super unleaded her car needs. £25 didn’t go very far. ☹️
I ran out of fuel and had to queue to get some. I didn’t panic,
Some people on here will castigate you for getting in your car at all to go to work unless you're heading down the oil mines, despite taking what little fuel remains for their own holiday driving.
Passed 4 filling stations on today's ride. All closed but 2 had Hoyer tankers in so presume those will open shortly, a view apparently shared by the dozen or so drivers already queuing at one of them (surrey/Hants borders)
Our deliveries have all been made as normal. Shell even let us increase the frequency. Only problem is as soon as a tanker arrives so does the queues.
I don’t think there has been a shortage. Our stations are all reasonable sized, on major roads, no idea if we have been lucky, prioritised or whether Shell is operating normally for all deliveries. But in terms of fuel deliveries, they’ve all been fine.
A normal delivery would last us 4 days. Gone within about 18 hours. (We do have to leave a certain amount in the tanks, but as a general principle, deliveries all seem ok)
is @binners aware?
https://www.theguardian.com/business/2021/oct/05/greggs-costs-shortages-sales-prices
Some people on here will castigate you for getting in your car at all to go to work
It wasn't to get to work
Only problem is as soon as a tanker arrives so does the queues.
Can you not borrow a couple of concrete tankers to lead the queues away?
It wasn’t to get to work
STONE HIM!
😆
I thought that Falling Down poster would be improved with a jerry can
Very nice. We need the distraction of a good photoshop thread.
I had a go 🙂
The local Tesco and other stations are all out of fuel again (Amersham). I've got less than 100 miles of range remaining so won't be going to work unless I can find some tonight/tomorrow morning.
Seems to be pretty near normal up here in West Yorks now.
Belay that - my wife spotted an Esso with diesel so I can go to work now. 1 out of 7 garages with fuel - must be all over now 🙂
Are we still blaming the public? Did it work? Can we take the same approach to all other shortages this winter?
Are we still blaming the public? Did it work? Can we take the same approach to all other shortages this winter?
Yes they will blame us for hoarding gas even when it is pointed out to them that storage for hoarding it could be an issue for most. They will just double down on their lies.
Interesting article blaming the just in time supply chain rather than motorists (mainly)
From the sky article linked;
The relatively small increase (just over 5 litres) in the average person's demand, coupled with a near tripling in the number of customers in a very short time led to shortages across the system.
Yep, so an increase in the average fill of five litres coupled with the number of people taking the average fill tripling definitely supports a conclusion that the supply chain is to blame…
Secondly, this whole flaming of JIT supply fails to put in proportion what it would cost to store the quantity of fuel that would support this kind of demand. I really should do the math. I can’t be arsed so I’ll just accept I’ll lose the argument.
I see the Torygraph are trying to say it was the switch to E10 as the stations were running their tanks down, (bollocks it was why would the stations not just fill up as normal and after a few deliveries it would be all E10 in the stations tank). And how would that have diesel shortages.
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Full MemberI see the Torygraph are trying to say it was the switch to E10 as the stations were running their tanks down, (bollocks it was why would the stations not just fill up as normal and after a few deliveries it would be all E10 in the stations tank). And how would that have diesel shortages.
They've more or less taken this direct from stupid facebook conspiracy theories.
Are we still blaming the public? Did it work? Can we take the same approach to all other shortages this winter?
As long as they're entirely localised to certain areas of the country I'm good with that. Unless that's just another stick we can beat Scotland and "the North" with.
It's got sod all to do with E10.
Its media led panic buying imho.
My daughter and I are going to the midlands tomorrow for a University open day. I've enough to get there, but not back. A quick drive last night and not a drop of diesel available in the garages near home; do i drive round today to fill up or am I 'guaranteed' to get some in the Warwick / Coventry area?
(I really don't feel like dropping my trousers and getting filled up on the M40, but suppose that's an option too)
Every station I rode past in Bristol on Wednesday (5 of them) had all fuels available and no queues.
Motorway services will have fuel.
I think it's just localised issues now. Unleaded and diesel near me in Reading, no Queues. (No super)
Garages I saw in Chichester seemed to have fuel.
I just filled up in Bedford with diesel, no Queue. 650 mile range should see me into next week. I've not seen any signs on the M25 suggesting no fuel.
London Tuesday, big queues and taped off pumps. It may have improved by now
Its media led panic buying imho.
Yes, that is what caused it and if any product is suddenly purchased in much higher demand than historically purchased the product will run out and the supply chain will not cope.
It has highlighted other issues but they were not the cause of it.
London Tuesday, big queues and taped off pumps. It may have improved by now
Not a bad as it was but still queues and forecourts with no fuel in sw London judging by my meanderings over the last few days.
The relatively small increase (just over 5 litres) in the average person’s demand
Is that a common thing? Like, people go to a forecourt and don't fill the tank?
I appreciate that some folk can't afford a full tank in one hit, and there's the rather tenuous argument of a nominal fuel economy gain from carrying less weight (likely wiped out by driving to the station three times as often), but I wouldn't have thought it was widespread enough to cause a problem?
Unless it's dickwads with jerry cans I suppose.
It does seem odd. If I see a garage which is cheaper than the others when I need some I fill the tank, the only time I would ever not do so is a really expensive motorway splash and dash.
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I must confess to having filled a 20L Jerry can this week though, but in my defence I'm off to a funeral just over 300 miles away and can now guarantee doing the return trip without needing to get any more, it's fine here but no idea what it's like there.
