Every little garage used to have to have a pump
Not only that but there were far more little garages and workshop places all over the countryside. Places that would work on farm machines etc. There was a little tiny place in the small town on a corner in town, it had two cars for sale, a tiny shop selling a few parts and a pump outside, the sort with the little glass bell that filled with fuel.
There's a house near me in Cardiff, called the Old Forge, in a suburb that used to be a little village and it had what looked like a 1940s pump outside it for ages - disused obvs.
Seems like the perfect opportunity for a foreign adversary to be coordinating an assault on this kind of infrastructure.
Naw, domestic terrorism.
I'm telling you, the attack on Howard Cox's telephone was the first stage of a coordinated attack by the Provisional Sustrans Army!
Edit: And Remoaners, obviously.
This isn’t getting better any time soon. If you can find fuel, I’d strongly suggest using some of it to buy food.
am I allowed to walk/ride to the shop or is driving compulsory?
#scaremongering
This isn’t getting better any time soon. If you can find fuel, I’d strongly suggest using some of it to buy food.
am I allowed to walk/ride to the shop or is driving compulsory?
How are you going to barter petrol for cans of beans if you arrived on your bike? Smart thinking that lad.
How are you going to barter petrol for cans of beans if you arrived on your bike? Smart thinking that lad.
shops will be empty, everyone will be sitting in traffic jams with their engines running down what precious fuel they have....
Just got 1000 litres of kerosene delivered. I reckon by Monday morning that'll be Oligarch status for the stabiliser household. Kneel before me!
Just got 1000 litres of kerosene delivered. I reckon by Monday morning that’ll be Oligarch status for the stabiliser household. Kneel before me!
If you own a jet plane...
This isn’t getting better any time soon.
I think it must do. We had enough tanker drivers last week, the week before - the surge in demand was caused by people hoarding - well they can only hoard so much can't they?
I do wonder how much fuel is sitting there in cars that do <200 miles a month of urban driving and for which a full tank could easily last 2-3 months.
If that's E10 unleaded there could be a lot of unhappy seals and plastic things as a result.
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I do wonder how much fuel is sitting there in cars that do <200 miles a month of urban driving and for which a full tank could easily last 2-3 months.If that’s E10 unleaded there could be a lot of unhappy seals and plastic things as a result
its an interesting point sandwich that isn't lost on the manufactures, especially with hybrids. It's not so much the ethanol, it's just the general amount of time that fuel may sit, or rather not pass through the fuelling systems that there is a small concern about..
Does anyone else think it's interesting that from near-total coverage, there's been very little in the news today about it?
At the risk of sounding a bit, well, loony, I wonder if the gov't have 'had a word' about inciting hysteria (or even issued a d-notice)?
Just adding my thoughts to a conversation above re small fuel stations. As mentioned previously our business is in owning fuel stations.
Fuel isn’t a money earner, due to competitive pricing we make very little on fuel. A small space restricted village fuel station isn’t going to be able to add additional components to the business that make money.
All of our stations have large amounts of land, allowing us to build nice food stores and to partner with brands customers want to purchase from.
You would also be surprised at the amount of use a jet wash and automatic car wash see. But all these things, along with nice easy parking are essential to keeping the business afloat.
This crisis has affected our business a fair bit, definitely seeing a lot less footfall in the store, when a tanker arrives people are waiting for it to be ready, very little shop business happening. People are filling up and leaving (in a huff!).
What's to say?
Remember that the news needs to be.. well, new. And if you keep reporting the same situation people get bored of it and complain. It's not a simple information service, although perhaps it should be - it needs viewers.
As mentioned previously our business is in owning fuel stations.
Can I ask if you can make some kind of app or ask Google to note down which stations are big enough for a caravan or large trailer please? 🙂
No problem in Falkirk.
Shell at Newtongramge was open last night, as was Dalkieth Tesco, albeit the latter only for petrol. Pace in Falkirk have both and no queue, with a 40 litre limit (iI've ust bought 25 from them) and the BP by the M9 has everything and a queue of about four cars, like any other Friday afternoon.
Fuel isn’t a money earner, due to competitive pricing we make very little on fuel.
Why didn't you double or treble your price to limit demand? Everyone wins.
Haha, we did talk about what we should do with the pricing, we lost a fair amount last month as the manager of one of the primary sites incorrectly adjusted the fuel price to 30p less than we bought it for….this was our chance to recoup that loss….
But being the nice people we are, in conjunction with the other local owners we agreed to keep the price fair (in relation to what we buy it in at)
But being the nice people we are, in conjunction with the other local owners we agreed to keep the price fair (
Bloody cartels 😜
@ Flaparon,increasing fuel prices so low paid workers and those living in rural areas with no public transport can't get to work is a great suggestion coming from someone with a very highly paid job driving a very expensive electric car
@ Flaparon,increasing fuel prices so low paid workers and those living in rural areas with no public transport can’t get to work is a great suggestion coming from someone with a very highly paid job driving a very expensive electric car
How much do you think low-paid workers earn if they can't get to work at all because Daily Express readers panic-bought all the fuel? Loads of people driving around on holidays still. Don't see them staying at home to let low-paid workers buy fuel.
You could easily have a system that allowed people with a company ID / marked van / reasonable excuse to fill up at the normal rate and punted Daily Express-readers towards the expensive pumps.
At the risk of sounding a bit, well, loony, I wonder if the gov’t have ‘had a word’ about inciting hysteria (or even issued a d-notice)?
Do they even need to bother now the DG is a Tory stooge and they just need to say the words 'licence fee'?
I've resorted to pumping fuel out of my car to my GFs Astra as it had the light flashing and had done 460 miles already, not bad for a 2004 1.6 8v. I wasn't convinced it'd make the petrol station and no guarantee of fuel if it got there
Feels a waste putting 99 in it but it's more efficient and more practical than mine.
Mines basically a fuel store now.
it seems a bit mean spirited to fill right up when half a tank will easily see me though the next fortnight
You'll never prosper in Brexit Britain with that attitude.
This is more the stuff:
New Tory target audience nailed 30 odd years ago...
The small town where I live (c 25,000 residents) has 2 filling stations on the high st. I've always wondered how they survive, even though one is a service station and the other has a Co-op attached.
I see some EU drivers will be allowed to stay till end of February now.
Get Christmas and Valentine's Done?
Does anyone else think it’s interesting that from near-total coverage, there’s been very little in the news today about it?
At the risk of sounding a bit, well, loony, I wonder if the gov’t have ‘had a word’ about inciting hysteria (or even issued a d-notice)?
Or is it because things seem to be pretty much back to normal?
Not in my experience
I seen this
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-northamptonshire-58767230
and then read this
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-eu-referendum-36618701
and it all made sense
That's brilliant!
Or is it because things seem to be pretty much back to normal?
"Many problems, most are focused on the South East with little sense of any improvement at all"
https://twitter.com/mwayservices/status/1444013853298266118?s=19
Or is it because things seem to be pretty much back to normal?
10pm - huge queue blocking a dual carriageway, cars presumably trying to get to the local Asda, nearest Shell station was coned off. Not any form of "normal" that I've seen before.
“Many problems, most are focused on the South East
I'm NW and the two local stations to me have both been coned off for s couple of days now (one Esso and one independent.) Not sure how representative of the rest of the area this is, but it's not normal that's for sure.
No Fuel to be had in Brighton area - Unless you want to queue for hours
We went to get shopping at sainsburys tonight , and 60+ cars queued up in car park even though garage was closed, when we came out of sainsburys even more were waiting, asked one of the guys in high vis, what was going on and was told they were going to get fuel in another 30mins , staff had leaked info onto social media and the locusts had arrived...
earlier had been out on road bike and roads to asda fuel station totally blocked with q's
wont be going anywhere in car any time soon
Just filled up from fumes at a garage with nobody else there apart from a board looking staff member, go me.
Apologies, pretty much back to normal here in Ilkeston Thursday night/Friday.
Seems yet another reason to avoid the SE. 😉
it seems a bit mean spirited to fill right up when half a tank will easily see me though the next fortnight
Yesterday I pulled into a small service station parking to grab some lunch. While I was browsing online with a sarnie, windows down, early autumn sunshine warming my arm - I became aware of Audi S-line man parked next-door. His engine had been running these last ten minutes. He kept his engine running for another ten while filling his face with the biggest roll I’ve ever seen, and then off he drove. There was no (vehicle) fuel available at this service station. I then wondered if he was keeping his engine running all day in defiance of the supply shortage? Sort of flipping the bird to the whole thing? Or maybe he believes that his engine uses more fuel to stop and start again vs idling for 20 mins?
Apparently the military are going to help deliver fuel from next week so I imagine everyone will calm down this weekend. Obviously.
Actually, I think i snapped a photo of them practising deliveries in the Thanet area:
I then wondered if he was keeping his engine running all day in defiance of the supply shortage? Sort of flipping the bird to the whole thing? Or maybe he believes that his engine uses more fuel to stop and start again vs idling for 20 mins?
Or he wanted a lack of fuel to get out of work/job/errand/in laws.
I escaped an extra call on Friday due to fuel concerns.
I then wondered if he was keeping his engine running all day in defiance of the supply shortage? Sort of flipping the bird to the whole thing? Or maybe he believes that his engine uses more fuel to stop and start again vs idling for 20 mins?
Got to keep the phone charged and the air con running!
My car will allow you to half turn the key to fire up the electrics without running the engine but a modern car with a start/stop button won't allow that, it'll rely on engine auto-stop which (a) has to be enabled and (b) won't work all the time, especially if the air con is on - even if you're stationary the engine will fire up to power the air con.
There was a big police 4x4 parked outside the town hall the other day, engine running for 20+ minutes. Guessing they need the engine on to power their radios and onboard ANPR cameras...?
I thought everything could run on 'sovrunty'?
Clacket Lane about 8 PM last night was looking normal with no queues. there is a premium to be paid for this however.
I seen this
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-northamptonshire-58767230
It'd be great to get an empty tanker and just drive around for hours - potentially on quite a long cross-country trip - and just see how many people follow you around and also how many eventually break down due to running out of fuel.
"No, sorry mate, this is empty, I'm heading back to the refinery. In Liverpool."
Not normal near me. 2 closed for varous reasons, 2 open with queues getting on for 1/4 mile long. So thats maybe 50 plus waiting at 0800 on a Saturday morning.
Im ok with 500 range still so hopefully will be sorted by the time i need to fuel up. Roads are definitely quiter and so is work as we get daily footfall numbers.
Plus that guy wasn't transporting 44t of morter. Maybe 30t of ready mix concrete. Just shows how silly its all getting. Local bookface page has banned tanker updates ad it exasperates the panic, not even allowed to ask which garages have what fuel available and how bad the queues are
Many local garages around Burnley with no diesel last night. I can access it from a pump at a local fuel depot with a fuel card but bad for a lot of people. The local depot had even been opening for the public to let some key workers get fuel.
