low-level offenders
Well that excludes half the crooks running this c***ry
Perhaps we could get ex prisoners and low level offenders to drive desks in whitehall, freeing up govt ministers to deliver petrol rather than empty promises.
Brilliant! You should definitely reply to that tweet.
If we all jumped into EV’s then we would be 70% reliant on China as they produce the overwhelming majority of batteries.
Battery factories going up all over the place including the US. Car supply chain is more complicated than just ordering the stuff off eBay.
Nigel has tweeted something which should cheer us all up.
https://twitter.com/Nigel_Farage/status/1443487482209882112
Down to less than 100 miles but 3rd garage I went to had diesel (Chesham BP) and queue was only 10 minutes. I can now get to work and back.
Shame the van didn't reverse and do the job properly 😀
Raab is that most dangerous combination of being both very thick and very ambitious.
the army!
the prisoners!what next?
the children!
for our dear leaders, its the same gob****tery on a different day
Its a pity Peter Sutcliffe is dead, Does Katie Price have an HGV (she did have a horse truck) ?
I could get a job as a government adviser .
If things get bad enough, they'll give Steve Wright (the serial killer, not the DJ) early release on national emergency grounds. Having said that, he may have better conditions in prison.
Surely there can’t be that many more cars that haven’t presently got a full tank?
My car is on reserve (since Friday) and parked at the back of the drive while I cycle to work. Cake and coffee supplies are still good so my fuel has no restrictions.
Nigel has tweeted something which should cheer us all up.
It did prompt a contender for Headline of the Day:
Given the utter bell-endery presently on display in this country, I reckon the supermarket shelves on the run up to Christmas will be looking like Russia circa 1982
Not in as many terms, but they were talking about this on Radio 4 when I nipped out for lunch earlier. Interviews with farmers. A huge tomato farmer I think in Scotland, talking about having to throw away "hundreds of football fields" worth of produce because they have no-one to pick them or deliver them. A caller asked "well, why don't you improve pay and recruit locally?" and he replied that higher wages would mean higher end costs for the consumer, and that he'd tried to recruit locally and no-one would do it.
Same story with other farmers. Enjoy strawberries whilst you can. Predictions for Christmas is there's likely to be a huge shortage of seasonal veg. So we'll likely see panic buying and end the year with the Great Sprout Crisis.
Still. Freedom, sovereignty, democracy, blue passports. We won you lost get over it, we knew what we were voting for, our children starving to death is a small price to pay. Project fear, commemorative 50p that's worth about 27p. Coming over here doing jobs we don't want. The Queen Mum, or something, I've lost track.
Strange that prior to the eastern expansion of the EU we managed to get fruit and veg picked.
On the other hand I suppose, "turkeys voting for Christmas" is finally looking to make sense. They've voted for it so they can royally **** it up.
Strange that prior to the eastern expansion of the EU we managed to get fruit and veg picked.
We managed it afterwards too. We can't now though.
Anyone? Bueller?
A huge tomato farmer
large tomatoes, or large farmer?
I bloody knew when I wrote it that someone was going to pull me up on that.
Strange that prior to the eastern expansion of the EU we managed to get fruit and veg picked.
Do you remember the Seasonal Agricultural Workers Scheme?
Or are you pretending that we used to be “self sufficient” when it comes to agricultural workers, with all seasonal work done by good honest British workers… because if you are, you are wrong. This was never the case in the past, nor will it be in future.
We probably need to introduce some kind of South East England Seasonal Agricultural Workers Scheme to replace it.
Strange that prior to the eastern expansion of the EU we managed to get fruit and veg picked.
Ok so:
1. If conditions are right then economies grow. This can create more jobs. This means you need more people. The people who live here all the time used to pick fruit and veg, but they never really liked it. People from other poorer countries though did it because they could come for a few months, make cash and take it home where it was worth more. Is this exploitation? Hard to say, but it probably disadvantages their home countries because they are not available there to do work. They only needed to do it once or twice for a couple of seasons because in the EU there were loads more people who'd come next time, cos the EU is quite big. Now we have a much smaller pool of people, all of whom live in an expensive country, this doesn't work any more. The people who used to do it back in the day now all go to different jobs and don't want to pick fruit. A million people have left the UK - of course this is going to cause shortages.
2. We still had foreign workers before the EU expansion. I remember giving a lift to some hitch-hikers from Czech who were picking fruit when I was living at home so that would have been mid-late 90s. But now they are in the EU they can easily go to other EU countries and pick fruit without having to apply for visas and be abused by gangmasters and the like.
Still. Freedom, sovereignty, democracy, blue passports. We won you lost get over it, we knew what we were voting for, our children starving to death is a small price to pay. Project fear, commemorative 50p that’s worth about 27p. Coming over here doing jobs we don’t want. The Queen Mum, or something, I’ve lost track.
5 years distilled into this summary. Marvellous.
Hey, I know what'll calm peoples nerves around fuel supply shortages - a strike at one of the largest refineries in the county - if it doesn't go bankrupt first!
Fire up the braziers lads, (but fill them with unleaded)
Oh hang on no, that'll not help.
Enjoy strawberries whilst you can. Predictions for Christmas is there’s likely to be a huge shortage of seasonal veg.
Are you confusing Christmas & Wimbledon? 😀
Fruit picking has always been season work performed by a mobile workforce. Even 100 years ago but it was people moving within the UK. It's also not badly paid.ithink it's more the temporary nature of it that make it more harder if you are local but part of the appeal of you are travelling.
Enjoy strawberries whilst you can.
Are you confusing Christmas & Wimbledon? 😀
Thanks to the present government, I can enjoy Eton Mess all year round.
Shit got real- I couldn't get vpower and had to put dirty tesco momentum in mine. It is sulking.
First petrol station I went to had no diesel and queues for unleaded. Second one I just drove in and filled up with diesel
Definitely seems to be sporadic and very much a regional issue depending on multiple factors.
A friend at work pointed out then when supplies start to get better, people like him who have not filled their cars up will do so. And be blamed for the next round of shortages.
One of the reasons for smart meters and a future smart grid is to manage demand, so theoretically it’s possible to prevent this
I think most EV owners would happily charge off peak. Those of us that can't (smart meter blackout area etc) pay a premium in order that we can fill up with four star electricity at peak times.
Thanks to the present government, I can enjoy Eton Mess all year round.
That bloke who owns Tesla?
(Also: very good 👏)
Thanks to the present government, I can enjoy Eton Mess all year round.
I enjoyed this very much.
We probably need to introduce some kind of South East England Seasonal Agricultural Workers Scheme to replace it.
Like a scheme where workers can move freely between countries, nah, it'll never catch on that kind of thinking.
It’s also not badly paid.ithink it’s more the temporary nature
I think its more like the fact that its bloody hard work and not too badly paid, British people on a whole have come to expect and awful lot of reward for what they do at work, and the traditionally low paid jobs, especially those that involve a bit of manual labour just aren't an attractive prospect to many nowadays.
On another note I managed to fill the wife's car up with diesel from basically empty (25 miles indicated range) today at a local non franchised station without even queuing at just after 08:30!!
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British people on a whole have come to expect and awful lot of reward for what they do at work, and the traditionally low paid jobs, especially those that involve a bit of manual labour just aren’t an attractive prospect to many nowadays.
See the comments on this thread about driving a truck being awful and underpaid...
Local petrol station more back to normal now. I rode my bike down in the heavy rain to check they still had diesel and then rode like the wind home to grab my car which had 3 miles worth left on the trip computer. I'm a few miles north of Nottingham City centre. I had heard the other on the bypass was still rammed. One in Eastwood no queues at all as the mother in law was over and had stopped to fill up there.
One in Eastwood no queues at all as the mother in law was over and had stopped to fill up there.
Ia your mother in law so obnoxious she can clear a fuel forecourt? You could monetise that in the current climate of panic.
I read somewhere that 30% of the jobs in the UK require the educational attainment of a 12 year-old. When does truck driving become a GCSE?
British people on a whole have come to expect and awful lot of reward for what they do at work
Where does that assertion come from? The Daily Mail.
What British people can't compete with - when it comes to fruit picking and similar jobs - is the low wages and terrible conditions eastern Europeans tolerate. Just like the HGV drivers, they were able to come over here, live 8 to a room (or in their cab for months on end) and earn a relative pittance. Remember the Morecambe Bay cockling disaster? How much do you think these cockle-pickers were earning?
A friend at work pointed out then when supplies start to get better, people like him who have not filled their cars up will do so. And be blamed for the next round of shortages.
This will be me. I have around half a tank only really drive on weekends to ride. Need to full up if I want to get out this weekend. Unlikely given lines in SE london are still a bit bad. Its getting better but its still rubbish.
British people on a whole have come to expect and awful lot of reward for what they do at work, and the traditionally low paid jobs, especially those that involve a bit of manual labour just aren’t an attractive prospect to many nowadays.
The average rent in the UK is £868 a month. 40 hours a week on minimum wage would leave you £1275 a month. I wouldn't particularly find that 'an attractive prospect'.
I think its more like the fact that its bloody hard work and not too badly paid, British people on a whole have come to expect and awful lot of reward for what they do at work, and the traditionally low paid jobs, especially those that involve a bit of manual labour just aren’t an attractive prospect to many nowadays
You mean they want regular hours, income, careers and to better themselves? Selfish gits.
Not too badly paid compared to what?
With the crop picking how do other developed countries manage? Migrant labour, local labour or machinery?
The average rent in the UK is £868 a month. 40 hours a week on minimum wage would leave you £1275 a month.
I'm not disagreeing with your point but that's poor use of statistics.
The average rent in the UK is £868 a month. 40 hours a week on minimum wage...
People on minium wage are likely to be renting cheap houses so you're not really comparing apples with apples.
People on minium wage are likely to be renting cheap houses so you’re not really comparing apples with apples
Most likely renting a room in a house. I've had to do it on plenty more than minimum wage.
