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http://www.thisisderbyshire.co.uk/story-13185481-detail/story.html?

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Posted : 23/08/2011 7:45 am
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Nothing like a good troll to start the day... 😉
Perhaps there needs to be some kind of intelligence test before people have access to a keyboard and the internet?


 
Posted : 23/08/2011 7:55 am
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I felt compelled to stick some comments on there as it's such a load of bow locks


 
Posted : 23/08/2011 8:22 am
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The guy's an imbecile.

Plus I don't think he's being taxed enough.

😀


 
Posted : 23/08/2011 8:26 am
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But, perhaps, I am not taking this far enough – maybe, as pedestrians, we all need a licence and insurance to negotiate roads and paths.

What a Trumpet


 
Posted : 23/08/2011 8:30 am
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Someone pass that to Carlton over at BikeBiz and he'll ripp it to shreds


 
Posted : 23/08/2011 8:36 am
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I think the best thing is to completely ignore it. It's a stock piece trotted out by talentless old hacks trying to convince their editor that their opinion column is good at attracting interest in their paper.
The more it's ignored, the quicker the editor will realise the columnist has no worth.


 
Posted : 23/08/2011 8:41 am
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"sensible and responsible cyclists, the kind that bother to wear safety helmets and protective knee and elbow pads"

I dunno why but I find this hilarious in particular.

He would wholeheartedly aprove of the attire of the average trail centre user (although would disapprove on whole other levels I'm sure...) then. Right I'm off for a road ride - better put the full face and body armour on to ensure I'm being responsbile!


 
Posted : 23/08/2011 8:55 am
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was gonna post a comment until I saw you had to sign in....


 
Posted : 23/08/2011 9:10 am
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I couldn't resist: long rebuttal comment posted. 😀

(by the way, you can sign in with a Google or Facebook account - so it's not too painful)

Someone pass that to Carlton over at BikeBiz and he'll ripp it to shreds

http://ipayroadtax.com cited in my comment 😀


 
Posted : 23/08/2011 9:17 am
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yes very lazy broad sword approach to getting a rise. I particularly like the use of road tax which then gets referred to correctly as VED later on..with the variety of broad sweeping comments and factual inaccuracies we should just get them to join here.


 
Posted : 23/08/2011 9:18 am
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[i]Perhaps there needs to be some kind of intelligence test before people have access to a keyboard and the internet? [/i]

The internet would be *extremely* quiet if we did that.


 
Posted : 23/08/2011 9:24 am
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Now where do I sign to pay tax?


 
Posted : 23/08/2011 9:24 am
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I particularly like the use of road tax which then gets referred to correctly as VED later on..

But then he also calls it the "annual road fund licence". Genius.


 
Posted : 23/08/2011 9:26 am
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do you reckon the author aspires to be a Daily Mail Journo?


 
Posted : 23/08/2011 9:41 am
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That was poor. Even James "The C##t" Martin did a better job than that.

0/10


 
Posted : 23/08/2011 9:48 am
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Ooo it's a getting a bit tetchy on that link, I had my tuppence worth to say but the words "Lycra" and"lout" are now being chucked about!! 🙄


 
Posted : 23/08/2011 10:14 am
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I was going to post that cyclists are on the roads by right, where as cars are only on the roads under licence.
And that having a licence plate in some way justifies bad riding/driving? I accept bad driving...but no number plate...you should be hung.

I wonder how motorcyclists feel about the return of front numberplates?


 
Posted : 23/08/2011 10:27 am
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[i]*waves at wrightyson*[/i]


 
Posted : 23/08/2011 10:34 am
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we are linked to thread so we need to wait 24 hours for some funny trolling


 
Posted : 23/08/2011 11:33 am
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I wonder how motorcyclists feel about the return of front numberplates?

Tell me more. And tell me where I'm gonna put one on this:

[url= http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6009/5990731496_332303d2a8_b.jp g" target="_blank">http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6009/5990731496_332303d2a8_b.jp g"/> [/img][/url]
[url= http://www.flickr.com/photos/peter_atkin/5990731496/ ]ST3s Kirsty test ride[/url] by [url= http://www.flickr.com/people/peter_atkin/ ]PeterPoddy[/url], on Flickr

Front plates on the mudguard were originally removed for safety reasons.


 
Posted : 23/08/2011 11:38 am
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In fact, motorcycles registered after 2001 are NOT ALLOWED to display a front plate! I didn't actually know that until I searched just now:

[url= http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Motoring/PersonalisedRegAndNumberPlates/DG_181503 ]Motorcycles registered from 1 September 2001 must only display a number plate at the rear of the vehicle.[/url]


 
Posted : 23/08/2011 11:42 am
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Well that all got a bit bizarre. Think I'll stick to debating here. At least it has some vague logic to it*

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* (except TJ obviously).


 
Posted : 23/08/2011 9:49 pm
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Take it he missed [url= http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/wheels-of-fortune-how-cycling-became-a-1633bnayear-industry-2341657.html ]stuff in the papers[/url] about the value of cycling to the economy.


 
Posted : 23/08/2011 9:57 pm
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applauds GrahamS. well argues as always and pretty restrained. Quite lucky we got you as our representatves and not one of our more colourful brethren 😉
PS I reserve the right to use this repeatedly against you in the future 😀
[b]“@graham5 - you talk rubbish - and too much if it.”[/b]


 
Posted : 23/08/2011 10:08 pm
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I liked this one -

by DDPridePark
Tuesday, August 23 2011, 3:24PM

“something should be done about cyclist - cycling seems to have become an aggresive male sport these days.”

I am TJ hear me roar 🙂


 
Posted : 23/08/2011 10:10 pm
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Hello? is it me you're looking for?


 
Posted : 23/08/2011 10:29 pm
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dont look at the other thread then 😳 😆


 
Posted : 23/08/2011 10:42 pm
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I did 🙂


 
Posted : 23/08/2011 10:48 pm
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Stop arguing with stupid people!

Those ****wits are lost souls, you'll never convince them like that. Only gentle exposure to opposing views will stop them thinking they're right. Obviously they're completely wrong and lets face it, when the petrols runs out they're really going to have take a good, long hard look at their stance but until then, prodding them on discussion forums, while immensely fun, will not change anything they think.

That said, I'd not want to stop the raising of blood pressure of such morons, just don't expect any result other than them keeling over (if you're lucky)


 
Posted : 23/08/2011 11:14 pm
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Just reading some of those comments makes my blood boil, keep going to write something but can't bring myself to sink to their level. Think 'littlemoaner' has little man syndrome though and ar$e-hat seemed too good for him


 
Posted : 24/08/2011 12:39 am
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applauds GrahamS.

Cheers Junkyard. 🙂

I finally gave up.

I wanted to write a careful rebuttal pointing out [url= http://www.official-documents.gov.uk/document/hc1011/hc01/0178/0178.pdf ]the DVLA budget[/url] and estimating how much a [i]Cyclist and Bicycle Licensing Agency (CBLA)[/i] would take to setup and run

But I could feel myself losing my restraint and wanting to use my SHOUTY words. I think others are right: they are a lost cause. They were not prepared to even consider or answer most of the points I made.

So I decided I better leave it and have nice glass of red wine instead ([url= http://www.turkeyflat.com.au/wines/?item=PrdctsButchers&template=wine_details ]Turkey Flat: Butchers Block SGM[/url] - highly recommended for such situations 😉 )


 
Posted : 24/08/2011 8:25 am
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Blimey, that Justice bloke is a bit of a cock isn't he? 😯

FWIW I would make all iPod and mobile phone users take a test and wear a big hat with a number on it because one stepped out in front of me the other day.


 
Posted : 24/08/2011 8:44 am
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I wouldn't recommend commenting, you'll just get ignored or end up in arguments with idiots who've never even sat on a bike.

Instead, I'd recommend hitting the little "report" button at the bottom of the article and leave a name and email address, you can tell their boss what an idiot they are. I promise it'll bring much more satisfaction.


 
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Must type

each new sentence

as a new paragraph

or else

my writing looks

even more like

incomprehensible garbage.

Zena.


 
Posted : 24/08/2011 12:42 pm
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So is "Squarewheels" one of you lot by any chance?


 
Posted : 24/08/2011 1:08 pm
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*waves to kimbers*

I've emailed Carlton Reid to see if he fancies submitting a counterpoint piece via their "Write an article" link.


 
Posted : 24/08/2011 1:53 pm
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I finally gave up.

@graham5 - you talk rubbish - and too much if it.
😆


 
Posted : 24/08/2011 4:19 pm
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Well I gave up a bit, but it was a slow day and I couldn't let it lie so I prodded their troll some more. 🙂

[url= http://twitter.com/#!/carltonreid/status/106370476066086912 ]Carlton has kindly brought in some reinforcements[/url].


 
Posted : 24/08/2011 4:25 pm
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Most interesting thing to happen in Derby for ages 🙂


 
Posted : 24/08/2011 5:49 pm
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I wouldn't recommend commenting, you'll just get ignored or end up in arguments with idiots who've never even sat on a bike.

Should be a sticky on here! 😀


 
Posted : 24/08/2011 5:59 pm
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[b]GrahamS[/b]
That's now been retweeted by yours truly.


 
Posted : 24/08/2011 7:51 pm
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You still playing Junkyard?

Over 100 posts now 😀


 
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I have never worn a cycle helmet. They are stupid. They are only good if you make impact with a small area, such as a stone, rock, or kerb. They are insubstantial and do not offer any significant protection to full head impact by a car or impact to the ground at speed or height. Besides, not all car collisions result in brain injury and brain injury is not always the cause of death. If your torso gets crushed, a helmet will not help you.

I call cyclists that wear helmets 'helmets'.

In Australia when they made helmets compulsory there was a drop in brain injuries. However, the compulsory requirement to wear a helmet had caused less people to cycle and this was found to correlate with the drop in brain injuries.

A recent study found that motorists were more inclined to drive closer when you wore a hemlet, unless you were female.

UK mentality on the roads is that cyclists are the enemy. I gave up cycling on the roads ages ago. Not worth the risk. British people are too impatient and hostile.


 
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Ohhhh ffs how did this turn into a helmet debate. Oh and you must see a lot of helmets mr helmet hater!!


 
Posted : 26/08/2011 4:04 pm
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Please do not feed the troll.


 
Posted : 26/08/2011 4:06 pm
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I have never worn a cycle helmet. They are stupid. They are only good if you make impact with a small area, such as a stone, rock, or kerb.

Bloke in a local cycling club was killed when he came off his bike and cracked his head open on the kerb. No other vehicles involved. Not racing or doing anything daft. He apparently just caught his inside pedal on the kerb, went over the bars, hit his head and died. 🙁

The safety benefits of bike helmets [i]are[/i] overstated. They make faff all difference if you are hit by a car at speed.

I commute without one (mainly off road on quiet paths) but I don't judge folk that wear them - it's their call.


 
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Another study found cyclists have an inflated sense of protection when they wear a hemlet, thus were more inclined perhaps to riskier manouvers.


 
Posted : 26/08/2011 4:12 pm
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You still playing Junkyard?

lurking but you are right justice is tenacious 😉
will post if anything interesting gets put on but it seems to have calmed really as it is a poor article.


 
Posted : 26/08/2011 4:40 pm
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it seems to have calmed

@junkyardSTW - you talk rubbish - and too much if it. 😀

Imagine insulting the disabled - is there no end to your depravity? 😀


 
Posted : 28/08/2011 5:21 pm
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Britain hates cycling.

It's amazing that this level of hatred get regularly dished out by the press.


 
Posted : 28/08/2011 5:44 pm
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Step away from the internet Graham 😉

PS Can you do internet poster forum transfers 😯


 
Posted : 29/08/2011 8:03 am
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Who are you thinking we should trade?


 
Posted : 29/08/2011 8:13 am
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I would rather not declare my kill file list for fear of encouraging them 😉


 
Posted : 29/08/2011 8:56 am
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I'm assuming you disabled it to read my comment? 😀


 
Posted : 29/08/2011 9:01 am
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OH no you are no where near and it is a very small list


 
Posted : 29/08/2011 9:09 am
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Oh dear Lord - they've now attempted a counterpoint piece:
http://www.thisisderbyshire.co.uk/tax-cyclists-daft-tax-bobble-hats/story-13229735-detail/story.html


 
Posted : 30/08/2011 1:39 pm
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Shouldn't be too surprised really - it's exactly what local rags do to get their websites visited more and justify some "journalist's" salary. The local free rag when I lived in Lancaster was exactly the same, it had a "Mr Angry" column where some fat git would write a rant. It usually stayed within the safe boundaries of about 5 topics, an anti-cyclist one being one of his favourite.


 
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That 'justice' bloke needs a good slap
How can one person be so argumentative and disagreeable.......
Makes me ashamed to live in Derby


 
Posted : 30/08/2011 6:13 pm
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Making fun of the disabled iain? shocking 😀

I particularly liked that he threw a complete wobbler on the other thread and threatened legal action because his posts got moderated. Mental case.

His "terminal heart failure" seems to come and go a bit too, given that he claimed he literally can't walk more than two steps without dropping down dead, but talked about taking a stroll around the hospital grounds on a different thread.

As I said to him, if I was "an incredibly rich and successful businessman with a terminal disease", then I like to think I'd spend my remaining precious time doing something a bit more constructive than bickering on local newspaper forums.


 
Posted : 30/08/2011 7:02 pm
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Yeah you would at least bicker on here instead 😉
Loving his latest claims of speial ip tracking troll ousting software!
Thing is that's my local news forum, I've been reading it for about 4 or 5 years in that time that same guy has had at least 6 different names each time it is obvious from his posts that it is same person, he just drives everyone mad and gets banned then comes back
This one though he is really loosing it
It's quite amusing!


 
Posted : 30/08/2011 10:40 pm
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I had a good giggle at the comments page on this article.

Thing is that's my local news forum, I've been reading it for about 4 or 5 years in that time that same guy has had at least 6 different names each time it is obvious from his posts that it is same person, he just drives everyone mad and gets banned then comes back

Remind you of anywhere else?


 
Posted : 31/08/2011 10:47 am
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He's far worse than anyone on here - even the BigsHitters™


 
Posted : 31/08/2011 11:20 am
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Looks like he has been banned again, no comments from him today, makes it a bit boring actually
Graham I reckon it's time for you to quit now too, it's pointless, how many times can you state the same VED and insurance comments, I'd let it die a natural death now if I was you, these people will never take anything you say in and there will be a similar article next month


 
Posted : 31/08/2011 10:06 pm
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You may have a point Iain.
But it's so hard to let the ignorance go unchallenged. 😀


 
Posted : 31/08/2011 10:54 pm