[Closed] Paying tax on tax - you have to just love labour dont you.

Stoner, I was looking up the same information! Read page 41 of this link:

STATISTICS.GOV.UK "http://www.statistics.gov.uk/elmr/07_08/downloads/ELMR_Jul08_Jones.pdf"

Interestingly, the poorest quintile spend less on fuel duties than the 2, 3 & 4th quintiles, which supports my contention that they drive less. However, it is a higher proportion of their disposable income.

"especially those on lower incomes do not own a car."

"which supports my contention that they drive less."

but would they if they could ? I'm betting "yes"

but would they if they could ? I'm betting "yes"

If I earned more, I'd have a nicer bike and and a bigger house.

[i]If I earned more, I'd have a nicer bike and and a bigger house.
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when I earned more, I got a smaller house and work less. I also got a nicer bike, natch 😉

Given the [b]huge distances that food is routinely transported [/b]before it gets to the shelves, are you really arguing that fuel prices are a significant factor in the affordability of food?

..and how is food "routinely transported" over those "huge distances"? By pedal power or by big lorries with a fuel consumtion of around 8 mpg?

..and how is food "routinely transported" over those "huge distances"? By pedal power or by big lorries with a fuel consumtion of around 8 mpg?

Err, that's my point - food is transported long distances only because transport costs aren't significant enough to outweigh other factors. 2p on fuel duty is not going to make food less affordable.

I can't provide the data ATM but I recall that the average transport cost for items in Europe is less than 1% of their retail price
This obviously encompasses everything from a locally grown cabbage to a bike from China

I apologise in advance, but Im bored.

assuming a container is approximately 6m x 2.5m x 2.5m I reckon you can fit about 130 On-One 456 frames at £125 each into a lorry, or about £16k worth.

In the same lorry (but not at the same time, obviously), I reckon you could probably fit about 9,000 cabbages at £1 a cabbage.

for an average trip of 300 miles at 8mpg and 110p per litre of diesel then the fuel cost represents 1.15% and 2.10% of the RRP value of the loads, frames & cabbages, respectively.

You'll all sleep better for knowing that.

Well done Stoner 😉
There are of course some economies of scale to be made too

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