[Closed] Party until midnight - too late or am I just an old grumpy

Midnight? I hope they have a licence.....

What time did you party till as a kid?

[quote=breatheeasy ]Am I just being a grumpy ol' gitPretty much - unless they have 52 daughters.....

So a few months between them and it's a Saturday night? I wouldn't be happy but I wouldn't begrudge it.

If it's every night or once every week or even once every month then I'd be hacked off about.

Once every 16 years? Maybe not so much.

18 year old daughter you say...

Well you've got at least 2 years before the next one so just let it go you grumpy old sod!! 😉

I like a bit of peace and quiet but I wouldn't be moaning about the occasional birthday party.

Presumably I'd be okay cutting paving slabs at 7 the folllowing morning with the Stihl saw?

Sure, as long as it's only the neighbours who've got your panties in a bunch who will hear it. And you only do it on a special occasion.

dust off your corduroy trousers and go and join them?

midnight is a bit late though. 11 is just about bearable.

As much a you seem to not like the fact they've told you ... take advantage of being forewarned

Get yourself an invite to a middle class dinner party around a friends house

Might just have to ask the parents why they couldn't afford to rent out a proper function room for the party. Knowing them, the only thing they'd feel indignant at would be accused of not having enough money...

Occasional party until midnight fits within my rules for good neighbourliness. Cutting paving slabs at 7 am wouldn't. Part of living with neighbours or in a town/city. Pros and cons

Knowing them, the only thing they'd feel indignant at would be accused of not having enough money...

Ask if they can't afford a pub back room; they might want to prove you wrong...

Pfft! Bloody kids nowadays! When we were 18 we'd barely be getting warmed up by midnight. We'd probably consider it fair comment for complaint, and tone it down a bit, if we'd have pushed on through to midday 🙂

Crank up the Elvis at your 70th later this year?

Knowing them, the only thing they'd feel indignant at would be accused of not having enough money...

Turn down your hearing aid ??

I honestly don't think that music until midnight for a one-off special occasion is anything to get wound up about at all.

Midnight on a Saturday is OK - have to say this as we had one this weekend...let the neighbours know and invite as many as possible. Having said that we had party two years ago and had the police round...at 10.00pm. Was it you Breatheeasy that complained ;-)??

Legally, "night" is between 11pm and 7am, so they shouldn't be making lots of noise at that time (and you're perfectly within your rights to fire up the angle grinder at 7am).

Morally, I don't know, it's a one-off and they've had the common courtesy to let you know, but it's the accompanying bellendery that would concern me more. I think if I were you I'd book a weekend away with your family, it sounds like you could do with a holiday. (-:

I am a light sleeper with a low tolerance of noise, but...

1 party to midnight once or twice a year seems perfectly reasonably to me. I think you're being a touch grumpy to think otherwise I'm afraid. Yes, every week or even every month is a bit off but once or twice a year is fine. The fact they've given you notice so you can buy ear plugs/have a night away/get hammered makes it even more reasonable to me

Cutting slabs at 7am is a poor show though, that's just spoilt brat behaviour I'm afraid. Unless of course it's to celebrate a birthday and you gave all the neighbours advance warning you intend to do it...

You do realise they've invited everyone in the street apart from "the grumpy old **** who did all the moaning last time", right? 😀

I always think that if it's Saturday night and it's only once or twice a year then no, not a problem. Even less of a problem if I'm invited lol 🙂

Jesus... its 16th and 18th birthday. Let them have a bit of fun. You really need to lighten up.

23:00 - 08:00 ideally for 'quiet time', although as long as its not a regular habit 00:00 - 07:00 aren't unreasonable.

At 11, start watching some strong grumble, with the volume up and windows open, you'll relax and they'll disperse. Problem solved.

Party in our street went on to 5.30am the other day. Sounded ace.

some proper heavy buzzkills out there 🙄

Jesus... its 16th and 18th birthday. Let them have a bit of fun. You really need to lighten up.

I don't have a Stihl saw by the way :roll:, I understand the noise would also affect the other neighbours too...

With a bit of notice like that I'd switch my plans, get the beers in and have a late one myself... If you can't beat 'em and alll that.

My neighbours always seem to pull that shit out of the blue when I've got to be up at 4am...

Miserable git 🙂

I'll let our 6 and 9 years know that when they're in tears like last time.

Shouldn't this daughter be out with her mates for her 18th?

I couldn't think of anything worse than spending my 18th with my parents!

You could pop a note back saying you will be doing some angle grinding at 6.00 am sunday morning?

Forget the paving slabs, fire up the axe grinder.
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I'll let our 6 and 9 years know that when they're in tears like last time.

They need to KTFU!!! 😀

I don't beleiiiive it!

(Sorry folks had to reach into the archives for a reference the OP would 'get', or could get his carer to explain)

Party till midnight a couple of times a year and otherwise good neighbours and I'd think I'd done alright to be honest.

[b]*you should not do this under any circumstance*[/b] Get tor, get social media, advertise the party and hashtag it with anything that will attract inner city low level drug peddlers. Then call the police, once it gets a little out of hand film the incident and sell the story to the Daily Mail. [b]*repeat, do not actually do this - I should imagine it could land you in a world of shit*[/b]

#HouseofCardsisTurningMeEvil

I posted on here [url= http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/neighbour-noise ]a few years ago[/url] with a similar problem. I didn't get any forewarning and it seemed to go on quite late, we had paper thin walls.

The net outcome was that both families moved house.

I wouldn't dream of inflicting outdoor noise on my neighbours after 11 and I wouldn't tolerate it from them, unless warned in advance.

What are you doing up now? need a piss? Don't you know you;'re neighbours can hear your frenetic one finger typing? I don't know, some people.

Hardly a party if it's finishing at midnight.

In any truly just world you'd be able to horsewhip them and have them placed in the stocks!

Listening to popular beat combo's through stereophonic recording equipment after the hour of eleven?! Disgraceful!

I'm with you OP. Why does it have to be outdoors? Party till 12, fine. But even loud garden music during the day is selfish behaviour if living close to people. "Everyone, you're going to be listening to MY awful music for a few hours now".

Commoners.

Pretty early finish if you ask me. Barely worth bothering

Are they having fireworks ? Can't beat listening to the neighbours letting off fireworks at midnight.....when it's not New Year's Eve .......

But even loud garden music during the day is selfish behaviour if living close to people.

How about having Radio 2 on while you prune your roses? Acceptable? Dealable with by clearly audible tutting? Or reason enough to get the police involved?

I have some noise issues with a neighbour, he's a DIY nobhead though, the occaional party wouldnr bother me. There is guidence on council websites about noise but ni one to actaully enforce anything so all a bit pointless really.

Other countries have much better regulations.

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In our last house (Prefab 60s terrace) our neighbours on one side used to fairly regualry make noise, mostly during the day but more then once late at night. Once they had a party that kept me awake until the early hours.
The next day we had an early start... Off to the TT on the motorbikes. We parked the bikes in the back garden and I had a twin cyclinder Honda with a loud can on it.
I only let it tick over for a minute or so before edging out of the back gate and I could see the wife mouthing at me from an upstairs windo through my mirrored visor... Oh how I laughed, she looked a right state!!

I'll let our 6 and 9 years know that when they're in tears like last time.

I say this as someone who has panic attacks when it is noisy and I'm trying to sleep. I (and the psychologist I went to see to help with this thinks the same) am adamant that it stems from my parents being so conscious of noise when I was young, they would make sure the house was silent when I went to bed. They would also make a big deal of it if it wasn't. My wife on the other hand grew up in a noisy house, with people round every weekend making noise, she will sleep through a nuclear explosion and has no stress whatsoever if there is noise.

So yes, chill, relax and please make sure your kids don't think it's anything to worry about either.

Partied hard at a mega wedding this weekend. Disappointed when the music stopped at 02:30 - but still suffering effects now. The perils of getting older!!

Not an issue, foam ear plugs are your friend.

I'll let our 6 and 9 years know that when they're in tears like last time.

No, explain to them that it's just a bit of noise that will be finished soon and that it's nothing to be worried or stressed about.

+1

If you do want to go 'full legal', then inform the local EHO (Environmental Health Officer) that this party is planned and cite what happened last time. You should be able to get the name of the local EHO from Google fairly easily as they're often quoted in public documents for planning etc. They might even have a specific noise team if your local authority is large enough.

If you're lucky* the EHO might follow up on it and have a word with your neighbours to curb night time noise past 11pm. The EHO will define night time as 11pm to 7am.

*It's Tuesday now and the being the civil service they may have finished for the week already

Than put a bit of light music or such like on in the background, close the windows if the party is outside and go and pour yourself a beer.

Not an issue, foam ear plugs are your friend

Fine if your neighbours are reasonable and have the music at a reasonable volume. Not much good if the volume is so loud its making your walls shake. It can make you physically sick.

I sympathise with the OP.

Fine if your neighbours are reasonable and have the music at a reasonable volume. Not much good if the volume is so loud its making your walls shake. It can make you physically sick.

But, kids are adaptable and will learn from their parents. If Dad is stressed out, the kids will be. So try and stay calm, certainly stay calm in front of the kids, reassure them it's going to finish soon and that's it normal and nothing to worry about. Don't make them like me where, unless it's silent and very dark they can't sleep. Don't make them have to go on holiday with an armoury of ear plugs, eye masks and noise cancelling headphones just in case the people in the room next door talk/walk/have sex, it's not fun and means you get very stressed about something that is actually no big deal.

Got to agree with some of the stuff about not passing on stressed out vibes to the kids. Let them off the leash; grab a pizza / takeaway and let them stay up late watching a film or something. They'll be too knackered / distracted to worry so much about the noise ...

As you know it's happening in advance, why not just go away for the weekend somewhere nice ? Treat the wife and kids to an evening away in the country, bit of food, bit of playing in a pub garden and a nice nights sleep.

Get over it. Two nights out of the 366 this year is not important.

My views on this are:

1. Yes, imposed noise can be very stressful. However, having had the warning, it's now something you can control. I had 6 years of the opposite in my previous (terraced) house - I was working 80 hours a week and losing sleep to their noise pushed me to the brink more than once.

2. Inconsiderate people. Unfortunately, you live on a housing estate. It will be full of other people and different people coming to and from the party.

I live in a small village (25 houses) where we have an annual beer festival at the pub across the road. It's not unusual for the Saturday night (of the four days it's on) for there to be 750+ people there. And then they all want to go home at the same time. It's once a year, so I can either avoid it (go away), join in (usually, to a point) or manage any concern by ensuring my driveway isn't blocked and no-one's chucking glasses in my garden.

3. Your kids. This is very much down to you. I have a 6 year old daughter who would happily (and has done plenty of times) stayed up to enjoy a party/wedding well after midnight. We let her sleep in the following morning. Get your kids used to a variety of experiences and don't give them your neuroses.

4. Revenge. This won't make you feel any better and will sour any relations in the future. Also, not everyone is a [s]bedwetter[/s] morning person, so don't want to hear your early bird DIY.

I agree with what most others are saying

you are being a bit neurotic

I suppose its what you're used to. If its total silence every night, like where I live, its hugely disruptive and annoying if unexpected loud noises disturb you and especially the kids.

I think though that if someone takes the trouble to warn you and its a very rare event, you should prepare accordingly and live and let live.