This one? http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/aibu-to-want-20-that-son-found-and-handed-in
That's the one. It might be that somebody has posted something slightly rude and my firewall is stopping me seeing it...............
The Israeli allottment was one of the best threads ever 8)
I once moved to a brand new housing development, most people seemed okay, but there was definitely a feeling of entitlement there. Could possibly only have been that estate, but I'm in no rush to continue the experiment.
YMMV.
Also, IME parking is a lot worse on new estates, as they're generally full of folks that then need 3 or 4 cars to get them and their offspring to work, as the estates are on the fringes of town (and they're lazy bastards) but there's not enough space on the drive, and no or minimal pavements. Odd shaped streets as well, so parking is at a premium.
Oh, spot on.
We're on a new estate. I think it's in the building regs that they can only put in a certain number of parking spaces. Most of the neighbours are great but we do have our share of Parking Bellends, who think that the bit of road outside their house belongs to them.
And yep - it's a complete driving culture. Everyone here has an Audi or one of those baby Range Rovers on tick. I've never seen anybody cycling. There's a Co-Op half a mile away, and people drive to it, and queue to park.
It's not just new estates.
My mate lives on a street where there are a mix of terraced houses and semi's. His house is one of the last to be built on the street and is the only one with a drive.
He is self employed and has a works van. If he parks on the street instead of his drive, someone will ring his mobile on private number and call him selfish for taking spaces up 😯
This happened a couple of weekends ago when he was working locally and nipped home for a pee when he was passing on the way to a suppliers 🙄
I used to have a neighbour who would park in such a way to make it impossible to get out my drive. Not intentional I'm sure as he is a nice guy but my vehicles are a bit unwieldy.
It's stopped since the farmer removed his door with a trailer going up to the quarry.
Damn,that escalated quickly.
Thanks for all the replies and have to say I agree with and expected most of the answers but just wanted affirm what I thought.
... goes outside to move cars
... I'd also pop round to apologise and drop off a bottle of wine/beer for the inconvenience.
Legally everybody is right - you only have a right of access over that bit of land, not a right to park there. However if as implied that bit of land you use to access your property has no utility to him (he's presumably required to keep it clear to provide you with access) and you parking there doesn't affect his utility then he may be being a bit of an arse. Unfortunately he's still a bit of an arse who's legally in the right.
I have a vaguely similar situation here, but I own the land which is used by my neighbours to access their property. In my case though it's a paved area rather than a driveway and provides vague general access to both my neighbours and my house - you can park several cars on it without preventing access to the other properties. Strictly speaking if I was an arse I could tell my neighbours not to park on it as they only have a right of access, but I'm not an arse and I value relations with my neighbours way above any perceived loss (it does mean the space isn't available for my kids to play in, but they have other places to play) - in any case sometimes I park on it (which I'm not strictly legally allowed to do either). We do also get along remarkably well with the other nearby neighbours when anybody has lots of people visiting - but then none of us are arses (at least not those I interact with).
Damn,that escalated quickly.Thanks for all the replies and have to say I agree with and expected most of the answers but just wanted affirm what I thought.
... goes outside to move cars
Good man. Neighbour will think better of you if you apologize for your (honest) mistake.
Playing devil's advocate, I can see how enforcing this sort of thing might be a good idea, if the neighbour's thinking of moving, or thinking of some kind of extension or sale of a strip of land (to the OP, even?), or he can envisage someone else having those plans if they move in, having a neighbour who has "always parked there" and implying granted use might make things trickier than they need to be.
Out of interest how would you enforce it? Police wouldn't be interested. Is it some form of trespass? There's no damage done and the car is allowed to be there albeit for an undisclosed length of time for access.
*If* a neighbour was being a bit of an arse and things need to be enforced, a delivery from the local builders yard would get the message accross.
"just put the big bags of sand either end of that car, mate".
😉
But then arsey neighbour would be breaking the law
Aye well if it continues after politely asking them to refrain. Much is game such as my requirement to cut the grass any time the car is parked there .....
My neighbour parks his car outside my garage (which isn't attached to my house). He has done so since I moved here 9 years ago.
It's not an issue as parking is good where I live and I prefer my cars on the road rather than down the alley behind the houses.
I see the positive side of this in that a car parked in front of the garage keeps it more secure. If my situation changed, my neighbour would be happy just to park elsewhere.
*If* a neighbour was being a bit of an arse and things need to be enforced, a delivery from the local builders yard would get the message accross."just put the big bags of sand either end of that car, mate".
Something similar happened down our way with commuters repeatedly leaving their cars parked on part of someone's driveway. Polite notes were ignored.
Slightly harder to ignore the building materials that were left within an inch of front and rear bumpers. Cue a sheepish knock on the door, apology and a bottle of wine 🙂
Parking is a complete nightmare - best thing we ever did was to find a house with our own offstreet parking. Previous houses have all had common parking, mess of access rights and so on. We sold our last house and the eejits that bought it (end of terrace of old farmer works cottages in the middle of nowhere) proceeded to wind up the their neighbours by adding gates, parking cars across access and kicking off when people exercised their right to walk across their garden. I ended up having to make despositions at solicitors about historic use.
We have a lay-by opposite our house. All three of the neighbours have their own driveway but one couple will still do comedy 'tactical parking' to ensure than no-one else can get more than one car in it.
Life's too short.
Post the deed plan showing your rights with the details of where redacted.
The OP's post sounded to me like they have space on their land for their car. In this case as long as their car is on their land and the deeds do not prohibit the parking of cars why could he not part there. Obviously parking on the part of the drive that is on the neighbours land is totally not on.
An interesting side point here would be if the house was sold with off road parking. If it was and the area on the OP's land at the end of the drive is the only off road area (i.e. they do not have another drive or garage served by the drive on question) then they could have a case for miss selling (assuming parking on the small bit the OP does own is actually verboten).
But then arsey neighbour would be breaking the law
Erm, which law?
