Yossarian, by nastiness I meant some of the bullying, the attitudes displayed toward women, the cowardly use of multiple user names and the pointless trolling.
Yossarian, by nastiness I meant some of the bullying, the attitudes displayed toward women, the cowardly use of multiple user names and the pointless trolling
Not to mention the homophobia.
it wont stop people doing it but IP addresses and people would give themselves away eventually.
Phil, 'spot Fred's new login' has become a seasonal sport for some on here in recent years. Also applies to the lesser spotted Glupton, but typically Fred/elfinsafety gets banned and Glupton/SBZ just changes his login because he gets fed up with the forum for a bit or for trolltastic giggles.
oh ok, see what you mean. Decent modding would weed that out whilst allowing a certain degree of bawdiness and ireverance no?
Oh Darcy... your wit is flecked with sarcasm.
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Are you the last person on the forum to know this?
Appears so.....case closed, banged to rights am afraid. He was an aggressive little knob back then, penny dropped for me last week when he had a proper pop at me for no reason I could see. We're all having a chit-chat about the Tour then wallop in the back of the head.
You guys have an admirable ethos of live and live and thats great but if we dont have the Mods things will get far too heated and folk will end up threatening each other. I was pretty knarked off with it to be honest.
I mean nothing by it Darcy... just testing out the f & eck hypothesis.
Ah right. Well you can deck off then 🙂
Ultimately, its all Jamie's fault. Him and his bloomin' eggs
Why do people keep associating me with eggs?
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I think the site owners have repeated the pub analogy a good few times.
It seems quite apt.
It's a public forum and posters are judged by their comments.
The 'It's only the internet' defence is a bit pathetic.
As a long time observer and occasional poster, I think the chat forum is like a rather rough pub at times - yes they're arguing whilst drunk, but you're not quite sure if it will end in a fight and you'd rather not join in for fear of getting thumped...
It seems to have got a lot rougher in the last year or so...
Rusty, did you just knock my ****ing pint over while checking out my missus' arse? Eh? DID YOU?
did you call my pint a puff?
Rusty, did you just knock my **** pint over while checking out my missus' arse? Eh? DID YOU?
Other way round.
how long's he on the naughty step for ?
place is always better with him here.
For as long as it takes him to think up a new username.
yes they're arguing whilst drunk, but you're not quite sure if it will end in a fight and you'd rather not join in for fear of getting thumped...
isn't this where the pub analogy falls flat on its face? No one is going to get punched, its words on a screen.
at least it's not BikeRadar
Has The Elf been sent off or is he just in the sin bin?
"pub analogy" - utopia
"it's only the internet" - fact, and how it will always be treated by some.
Freds on the naughty step for 3 days
He's been a very very naughty boy
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People can still be hurt by words.
3 days? Meh. What did he do, wee in the shower?
DS got a 5 stretch for asking what people thought about that woman who looks a bit like a cat.
its words on a screen.
if it were only ever just that, then you wouldn't have a 3 day, 1000+ post on the significance of branding going on. no one could simultaneously be that commited and claim detachment at the same time.
nearly everyone claims that it's'only the internet' then gets very obviously wound up proving that it's actually more than that.
DS got a 5 stretch for asking what people thought about that woman who looks a bit like a cat.
It's like the American TV. You can have swearing and violence, but heaven help you if you show a nipple at half time.
People can still be hurt by words
true, but they aren't going to sustain life threatening injuries like they would from having a beer glass smashed in their face are they?
the pub analogy is utopian, as cynic-al says. The reality is that forums are not face to face, people can call themselves whatever they like and pretend to be whatever they like. Its futile to try and apply real world constraints to something that is inherently false.
f it were only ever just that, then you wouldn't have a 3 day, 1000+ post on the significance of branding going on. no one could simultaneously be that commited and claim detachment at the same time.
no and you are right, the point is though surely that thread would not have continued that long in a 'real life' situation. The medium sustained it and prolonged it. Again, how can you attempt a real world rationalisation of people's behaviour in a situation that is 'unreal' 🙂 ?
DS - thats another case in point. Now he has previous and I personally believe that type of post has no place on the forum but he IIRC got no warning and a 5 day ban is well OTT. All it needed was warning and a thread lock. If he repeated it then a bn might have been appropriate.
againote folk have got away with far worse without a banning.
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followed by the Edinburgh Defense
Judicial review TJ?
Or perhaps you could head an impartial committee dtermining bannings etc? You'd need to stop posting though.
Seriously, it's their playpen/living, not TJ's, not ours, end-of.
I thought that was an excellent illustration of the term "big hitter" 😆schrickvr6 - Member
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Ooops wrong thread
I'd presumed "big hitter" was mis-typed, omitting a very important 's'
There's more than one?
I have no idea how STW is moderated but on most forums mods are there on a voluntary basis doing their best to keep the forum somewhere near acceptable for the owners.
If you want consistency, fairness, rules, hearings, appeals... you'll need a team of paid full time mods.
As people don't want to pay for forums this isn't going to happen and if anyone doesn't like it other forums are available. It's not like you're paying for it...
Binners et al you may laugh but some folk have nothing more in their lives than their internet reputation.
I think the term 'big-hitter' is rather sad.........it's an internet forum FFS.
As far as Fred goes, I'm of the opinion that his positive input, when weighed against his negativity/arguing, is, on balance, detrimental to the site and as has already been pointed out, he will have a pop out of the blue at seemingly random targets and then claim total innocence when he has elicited the desired response. He also tends to choose his targets carefully to ensure back-up from his 'bighitting' supporters. This banning may well be a result of the cumulative effect rather than just a single post.
Just my opinion as a relatively low level poster who has observed him in action over the years. 8)
I got a warning for opening a thread about the loss of the "Modern Art" thread..
And that was a really great debate, hardly any abuse going on (hahaha) Yet other more abusive threads get through the net, certainly one threads running now that ought to get closed but hasn't (yet)
Why dat den?
Random.
I've also heard it rumoured that some people actually come on here in 'their own time'
Insanity!
[i]people actually come on here in 'their own time'[/i]
Really? That's just wierd.
You'll be telling me people take a dump outside of office hours next!
what pray tell is a big-hitter?
Here's one
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Fantastic pair of breeks 😀
yossarian - MemberLet's be fair here, the 'usual suspects' know full well what triggers a Mod lockdown....
....yeah I guess, and much humour can be had from steering the ship upto that line. Thats where good and appropriate modding comes in. The consistency and humourous element of moderation has disappeared from the forum, whether thats down to a shift in policy or personnel I don't know.
Yes, much humour, but usually at some elses expense.
The WUMs are able to play the game pretty well, just teetering on the edge of the rules but their behaviour often pushes normal posters over the edge.
The worst thing IMO is the constant nagging provocations rather then the occasional outbursts.
Frank exchange of views yes, it's what forums are for, not a problem if occasionally someone posts a bit OTT, they get warned, post gets deleted.
Constantly repeating the same point and pretending not to understand why it winds people up is provocative trolling, usually repeat offenders, so bans get issued for a seemingly innocent post ("straw on camel's back syndrome") then the 'usual suspects' start bleating that it's not fair when they know full well (usually via off-forum mailings) what's going on.
Makes me think some of the bust ups may be prearranged just to generate a bit of cockfighting 🙄
"It's only the internet" really is no excuse.
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I think the term 'big-hitter' is rather sad
I think it's a parody of what the b-h's think of their own on-line significance 😆
