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I still think he just needs more time.


 
Posted : 20/11/2021 8:04 pm
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Just a minor blip, no need for knee jerk reactions. As you say, Ole just needs a bit more time.


 
Posted : 20/11/2021 8:07 pm
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I’m not sure Zidane is the best fit to be honest.

Liverpool putting Arsenal’s unbeaten run v lower and mid table sides into perspective.


 
Posted : 20/11/2021 8:08 pm
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I’m not sure Zidane is the best fit to be honest.

Agreed, he is an upgrade on Ole, but of the same mould, he will be much better equipped to deal with the players and stronger in standing up to them, dropping them hen they don't perform etc. But I don't think he has the tactical nouse to match up with Pep, Klopp and Tuchel.

Plus the word is that he doesn't want the job anyway.

Does Potch have a release clause?


 
Posted : 20/11/2021 8:13 pm
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Not much chance Arsenal were going to do anything at Anfield today, they're still a work in progress, still can't believe how poor Aubameyang and Lacazette are as a front two for Arsenal, through the middle they're just not strong enough, with too many players who are up and down.

As for Liverpool, they just have what others want, stability throughout, players who you know you'll get a performance out of 9 times out of 10, the only thing that'll knock them off course is injuries, they do have a pretty small first team compared to Man City and Chelsea.


 
Posted : 20/11/2021 8:17 pm
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You have to ask who on earth would want the job at the moment?

The club is a complete shambles


 
Posted : 20/11/2021 8:20 pm
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the only thing that’ll knock them off course is injuries

or the African cup of nations.


 
Posted : 20/11/2021 8:23 pm
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Yeah, not much of a short list from what i can see:

Zidane - Only ever managed Real Madrid, never had a rebuild or fresh start, never played in the EPL.

Rodgers - Having a bit of a bad time at Leicester just now, could possibly do a decent job, but a risk.

Gary Neville or Beckham - Could be the one to work!


 
Posted : 20/11/2021 8:25 pm
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Big Sam?


 
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Posted : 20/11/2021 8:34 pm
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John Terry


 
Posted : 20/11/2021 8:54 pm
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They need a long term manager with a plan, Zidane would be short term. As Binners says, who would want it? £500m should get them a new right back, two centre halves (one to partner Varane, one as back up), two central midfielders and maybe a striker. Ship Ronaldo off to MLS.


 
Posted : 20/11/2021 9:58 pm
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Erik ten Hag might be the manager that they can get, would take the chance and accept the job, and could possibly do something as manager.


 
Posted : 20/11/2021 10:06 pm
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Realistically the right manager may not be available until summer. But I think just about anybody could do a better job now as he’s lost the players. Just need to change him and get the players heads straight/organised


 
Posted : 20/11/2021 10:12 pm
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Rooney!


 
Posted : 20/11/2021 10:37 pm
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Brucey is at a loose end 😂


 
Posted : 20/11/2021 10:58 pm
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Apologies for the Daily Mail link but it’s bang on

https://twitter.com/ollieholt22/status/1462193127918342153?s=21

And he’s only stating what we’ve all known for years. The main problem isn’t the manager. It runs far deeper than that. The problem is the leeches we have as owners and the money-obsessed morons they tasked as their representatives on earth, to whom the next sponsorship deal is far, far more important than being title challengers.

I doubt many sponsors will be particularly interested in a mid-table side, a million miles off being title contenders and played off the park by Watford, no matter how many Ronnie shirts they sell in the club shop


 
Posted : 21/11/2021 1:51 am
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THe money obsessed owners who've given you countless millions upon millions to spend ? Sure they're taken plenty out, but Utd have spent hundreds upon hundreds of millions. The problem is NOT the owners in the context of the football being played, it's the team and the manager.


 
Posted : 21/11/2021 8:08 am
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They only gave Ole £400m. At least double that needed to challenge for the league again. And that says it all about the deluded, detached from reality Premier League. I love it!


 
Posted : 21/11/2021 9:59 am
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Getting back to the actual footy; I wonder if scoring against the mighty San Marino will tempt Kane out of his holding midfielders role to maybe have a shot or two today?


 
Posted : 21/11/2021 10:58 am
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On Kane, I suppose it depends on where his dial is on his sulkometer.
Ole’s gone.


 
Posted : 21/11/2021 11:27 am
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Presumably they have some mug already lined up?


 
Posted : 21/11/2021 12:00 pm
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What makes you think that?

Have you not seen how this club is run?

I reckon Ole’s iPad will be in charge when we lose 6 or 7 nil to Chelski next weekend?


 
Posted : 21/11/2021 12:09 pm
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I'm more interested in where Ole ends up. He has done ok (until recently anyway) tbh but I can't see him getting another PL job.

The problem is the leeches we have as owners and the money-obsessed morons they tasked as their representatives on earth, to whom the next sponsorship deal is far, far more important than being title challengers.

And all the deluded nostalgic fans who thought for some reason Ole was the man to bring back former glories.


 
Posted : 21/11/2021 12:11 pm
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Pretty disingenuous to Stan and Olly as sometimes they did get the piano down the steps.


 
Posted : 21/11/2021 12:16 pm
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Interim manager until the end of the season seems odd/risky? Darren Fletcher/Michael Carrick? And if they do ok will they then get the gig a la Ole? If they bomb and fail to get in the top four which super coach is going to want to take over?

I reckon Binners criticism of the way the club is run and the lack of a plan is pretty bang on and may now deter rather than attract the best coaches.


 
Posted : 21/11/2021 12:31 pm
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I’m totally shocked to see that there’s nobody in place, despite the writing being on the wall for weeks, no plan whatsoever and Ed, Joel and the rest of the muppet show are sketching it all out on the back of a fag packet again

I’m sure it’ll all turn out for the best


 
Posted : 21/11/2021 1:19 pm
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And all the deluded nostalgic fans who thought for some reason Ole was the man to bring back former glories.

Coming from a Scouser? 😂

Win a title and you think we’ve all forgotten the last 3 decades?

I don’t think any of us have ever thought ‘it’s our year’ since Fergie retired.

We’re a bit more realistic at this end of the M62. We can see how far off being title challengers we are. We’re nowhere near!


 
Posted : 21/11/2021 1:44 pm
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I'm sure they'll get someone in soonish, but to be fair, would you want to come in as a manager at a time when the club is in turmoil, you have Ed Woodward leaving and looks like he'll be replaced by his mate who's at the club, so no progress in the hierarchy for any new manager, you have the player problems to deal with as well, Pogba out of contract and just a shadow, Ronaldo overshadowing the entire club, a lot of depression and so on.

But, they do have a huge squad of quality players, and if you could get a team out of them it could be a good project for someone, but i do think it needs a bit of ruthlessness to start with, to really put an end to this whole cycle of the players just costing manager's their jobs, there's something not right in that squad just now, and it needs to be weeded out and binned quickly.


 
Posted : 21/11/2021 2:03 pm
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That's exactly the point binners - Man U have become a nostalgia club just like Liverpool used to be (and were mercilessly slated for by Man U fans).


 
Posted : 21/11/2021 3:11 pm
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Did you read that article I posted up before we played you. It said exactly that. Old Trafford is now a theme park

This is bang on!


 
Posted : 21/11/2021 4:18 pm
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In other news...Norwich got their second win of the season....let's be avin ya!


 
Posted : 21/11/2021 6:46 pm
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****ing sick of seeing shirt pulling and anything else involving arms in a dead ball situation.


 
Posted : 21/11/2021 6:59 pm
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Seeing manUs wheels continuously fall off is highly entertaining.

They're rotten from top to bottom. Ole was a decent, if overpromoted man in a shit job.


 
Posted : 21/11/2021 9:54 pm
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I know you don’t care, entertaining as it is, but how do you think it feels for us to see a man we rightly revere as a club legend be spat out by a bunch of parasitic ****s who couldn’t care less about him, the supporters or anything else other than how many billions they can milk out it?

Amusing as it is for the ABU’s, how would you feel if you’d had to watch this happen to the club you’ve supported all your life? I’m sure Newcastle fans have some sympathy, as we have had for them as Mike Ashley has wrecked their club?

The Glazers have pretty much destroyed this club already, but I think we’ve got further to fall yet while these leeches with their leveraged buyout, mountains of debt they’ve put on the club and clueless management by soulless bean-counters continue

I don’t care if you hate Manchester United, but have a think about how it would feel to watch this happen to your club?

FFS! Just look at them…


 
Posted : 21/11/2021 11:29 pm
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I don't hate Manu. I'm a bit perplexed as to why most people seem to support a club they have no real connection to. A little like me going through anguish and joy if Barca win/lose. But anyway there are Mancunians that rightfully support their hometown club.
I suppose it's a little annoying that it made the headline of the news, but being a world club I suppose that's inevitable.
Reading also have blood sucking leaches as owners.


 
Posted : 21/11/2021 11:51 pm
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there are Mancunians that rightfully support their hometown club.

Yes, they support City not that lot from Salford

😜


 
Posted : 22/11/2021 12:16 am
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Get a grip, Man U aint finished in the bottom half the table for over 40 years...you'd think they were in Div 1 with all this nonsense, lot's of club 'legends' go back as managers, after a period of time it's best to part ways, he did a job then lost the room, thanks for the memories, come back for who ever's testimonial...it's business.

Clubs have gone to the wall because of terrible ownership, Man U won't, you'll prob's make CL next year, have some perspective.


 
Posted : 22/11/2021 12:43 am
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they are weeping in the streets of Singapore


 
Posted : 22/11/2021 1:06 am
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Man U won’t, you’ll prob’s make CL next year, have some perspective.

I think that on present form Thursday nights in Kazakstan arean ambitious outcome of this season, as the club appears to have written it off already. Theyre appointing an interim interim manager while they look for an interim manager. You couldn’t make it up


 
Posted : 22/11/2021 8:15 am
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@binners for interim interim manager !


 
Posted : 22/11/2021 10:20 am
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Realistically they're only 6 points off the top 4, and West Ham are more than likely going to tumble with a small squad the longer the season goes on, if ManU get someone in to steady they can easily make it into the CL next year, go for the cup and so on, folk acting like the season is over, it's not even Christmas for them yet, if they could get an interim manager who can do what Ole did the first time round it would work, the only thing that went wrong that time was they gave the job to Ole full time.

They just need someone strong enough to actually instil some discipline in the team and who really doesn't want the job full time!


 
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Posted : 22/11/2021 12:31 pm
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I’m sure Newcastle fans have some sympathy, as we have had for them as Mike Ashley has wrecked their club?

Maybe a little but not much. Sympathy in that you probably grew up with Edwards and Fergie running the club during a period of ridiculous success. That in itself has, perhaps not unreasonably, shaped the demographic and sense of expectation from many (but not all) Man U fans. I have considerably more sympathy for Derby, Bury, Macclesfield or Wigan fans. Granted, your issue seems to be poor appointments and giving them too much money to spend (who in their right mind gives OGS £373m!). Surely that is a CEO/DoF issue rather than the owners per se?

Ashley ran things into the ground to such an extent that the CEO (who used to hand the reserves teamsheets out) was the only Director, the training ground had no investment for 15 years, TV's in the concourse were replaced with smaller ones and as one further example, when new owners arrived, they contracted some window cleaners to clean the Gallowgate end glazing. You'd think from the reaction on twitter, we'd signed Mbappe. Genuinely, interested: are the Glazers neglecting the ground/infrastructure as well?


 
Posted : 22/11/2021 12:53 pm
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Isn't this about regression to the mean? As far as I know, only Busby and Ferguson have been unqualified successes since WWII, which isn't great odds for any new appointment.


 
Posted : 22/11/2021 12:58 pm
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