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mikewsmith - Member
WTF is this youse thing anyway?
seosamh77 - Member
I'm hearing stories that SNP internal polls are indicating xx%, when people are asking at the polling stations.Do you mean your quote or the one you are quoting?
Youse = the first word I shall enter into the new scottish dictionary! 😆 Plural of you
btw, in what planet does internal equate to exit?
how exactly? As I've said, how the **** do you get exit from internal?
The actual quote went something along the lines of NS has had a relaxing few days because...
when people are asking at the polling stations.
How did they ask them at the polling stations a few days ago? Can Youse answer that?
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and which part of 'internal' means 'illegally publish on the internet while the polls are still open'?
So just going of 8.1 a&b then
Scottish independence referendum Act 2013:8(1)No person may publish before the close of the poll —
(a)any statement relating to the way in which voters have voted in the referendum where that statement is (or might reasonably be taken to be) based on information given by voters after they have voted, or
(b)any forecast as to the result of the referendum which is (or might reasonably be taken to be) based on information so given.
when people are asking at the polling stations.
Bing have been doing big data and sentiment analysis and have 48.7% Yes, 51.3% No as their final prediction.
Got a link to that? Interested in the technology.
Youse = the first word I shall enter into the new scottish dictionary!
Pretty sure it'll need to go near the end.
Last time I looked at stats for implied probabilities from the bookies they had No at about 75-80%, but of course seosamh77 is right, the bookies don't try and predict the result so much as try and predict the market, so I'd take those results with a pinch of salt.
Erm... they do both. Yes the odds are skewed by other factors to some extent but they are still largely based on predictions of how likely events are to occur.
The best thing that could happen to the UK is a No vote imo.
If you ask me putting your trust in the established UK parties to suddenly listen to what people are saying and not go back on their word of offering greater devolution is an even bigger leap of faith than voting yes. A yes vote well enshrine in law what the main UK parties have completely failed to deliver despite promises time and again over electoral reform, constitutional reform, an elected second chamber etc.
molgrips - MemberPretty sure it'll need to go near the end.
iScotland doesn't recognise your petty english so-called "alphabet", after independence all letters will be equal.
molgrips - MemberThe Yessers didn't create anything, the SNP offered them this because they are a nationalist party.
Er, the desire for independence created the SNP, not the other way round. The SNP brought us the referendum because that's what they're for.
not if it's the first word entered.molgrips - MemberPretty sure it'll need to go near the end.
I can play the semantics game as well people. 😉
I'm hearing stories that SNP internal polls are indicating xx%
Implies polls performed internally by the SNP.
when people are asking at the polling stations
Implies the polls were held at the polling stations, which seems to fit well within the category of [i]“any forecast as to the result of the referendum which is (or might reasonably be taken to be) based on information so given”[/i]
TBH what I think you meant was that if voters asked the SNP people at the polling station how they thought it was going, then the SNP people are referring to their own poll data (which may have been from weeks ago). Unless they make it implicitly clear that this is old data and not based on the actual ballot, then I think they’re being very silly.
I'd disappear quick if I were you Seo.....the Rozzers might be on the way!
Got a link to that? Interested in the technology.
[url= http://blogs.bing.com/uk/2014/09/03/bing-predicts-forecasts-the-scottish-independence-referendum-in-uk-test/ ]http://blogs.bing.com/uk/2014/09/03/bing-predicts-forecasts-the-scottish-independence-referendum-in-uk-test/[/url]
Not that much technical detail tbh, more of an overview.
I can play the semantics game as well people. 😉
Won't be the only game you learn to play in prison
like mummies and daddies 😈
NS has been having a relaxed few days because...irelanst - Member
Unless they make it [b]implicitly clear[/b] that this is old data and not based on the actual ballot, then I think they’re being very silly.
ninfan - Member
I can play the semantics game as well people.
Won't be the only game you learn to play in prison
I'm sure the police don't particularly take kindly to wasting their time. 😉
NS has been having a relaxed few days because...
Honestly not sure what this means, but in reality you broke election law by suggesting you had data that was taken from the people at polling stations. Read the rules you broke them. If you have no idea why this sort of thing exists then you should probably stop.
please **** up! 😆mikewsmith - Member
NS has been having a relaxed few days because...Honestly not sure what this means, but in reality you broke election law by suggesting you had data that was taken from the people at polling stations. Read the rules you broke them. If you have no idea why this sort of thing exists then you should probably stop.
NS has been having a relaxed few days because...
That was only added as part of your back-pedal though, it wasn’t in the original statement that you made.
ah that makes loads of sense now, you need to swear to try and explain yourself. Well done have a gold star.
Meanwhile some more of the ugly
http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2014/09/18/scottish-referendum-bullying-intimidation_n_5841722.html?&ir=UK+Politics
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@seos if it comes to it I'll be willing to act as a character reference, in that no one of sound mind would pay any attention to anything you posted 8)
Someone on my wife's FB has just made a long post about how much they love the people of England, Wales and NI and they are voting yes because they want democratic change for everyone.
This is interesting as with smaller and smaller democracies you eventually end up with everyone doing as they please, kings of their own castle. Isn't that the dream of the right ?
Being shared by pro-yessers on facebook
So come the change they would like to know who voted no? Is that not just a little bit sinister?
There weren't any Yes people at my polling station - just a couple of rather sad-looking Labour people handing out leaflets.
So I think that's likely to be rubbish.
Well I know what I'd be doing if I was up there voting No 😉
I don't think the BBC are in charge of the numbers!
😆jambalaya - Member
@seos if it comes to it I'll be willing to act as a character reference, in that no one of sound mind would pay any attention to anything you posted
So come the change they would like to know who voted no? Is that not just a little bit sinister?
dont be daft you are ****ed either way as they still know who you are
if you must get paranoid at least get fully paranoid 😉
aren't you confusing the release of exit poll information (people standing outside and asking) with the release of official counts (by party observers inside that are supposed to keep quiet)? the UK doesn't have laws restricting opinion polls around election time unlike some countries.
I do apologise. apparently I'm talking complete rubbish.
Have they left yet?
You are not allowed to release polling information, exit or otherwise, once voting is underway. You can only do so again once polling stations are closed.
Is this going to be covered all night like general elections are?
But with far far less on which to report?
There was hardly any coverage on the BBC or Sky news at breakfast this morning but I'd expect round the clock coverage tonight
loads of people I know saying they are staying up all night, so I would imagine so.molgrips - Member
Is this going to be covered all night like general elections are?But with far far less on which to report?
I'm going to my kip tbh. I don't think the format of a yes/no referedum will be that exciting, and even if it is, I don't my heart could take it.
i shall wake up to success or failure!
Our office (London) charity "sweepstake" (picking a Yes percentage) has 84% of us for a No result of some kind, most optimistic Yes 54%
I have taken the day off work tomorrow, will be staying up watching the result unfold with a drink or two. BBC or STV, still to decide.
Turns out the media were at the polling station for Mr Darling's eyebrows and not mine this morning.
Assuming a decent turnout a 51/49 vote means approx 75,000 people swing the result 😯
What will Scotland do when the oil runs out?
I dunno, ask England theirs runs out tomorrow! 😆
jambalaya - Member
Assuming a decent turnout a 51/49 vote means approx 75,000 people swing the result
The penny finally drops! 🙂
and with that, I'm off to cast my Yes vote!
Currency vol up 10x in a month. Thanks Alex, close it out soon. Feed the speculators as part of the equal society 😉
seosamh77 - Member
What will Scotland do when the oil runs out?I dunno, ask England theirs runs out tomorrow!
*sigh* I hope you are joking, as you do know the oil production is contracted out to private companies.
Fingers crossed common sense prevails.
I honestly reckon the swing could be just the 16/17 year olds who vote "no".
Which would be really funny to the casual observer.
[url= http://www.oddschecker.com/politics/british-politics/scottish-independence/referendum-outcome ]bookies are never wrong[/url] 😉
