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Organic food's probbly got worms in it.
Have you got an anal/worm fixation Elfinman ? You best keep off the organic stuff, just in case 💡
Yes, analysts suggest that this probably includes some oil which comes from Cuba's own oil fields and some from Venezuela.
Does Cuba have its own oil? The Economist seems to think that they're not producing yet.
[url= http://www.economist.com/blogs/americasview/2010/11/cubas_oil_prospects ]
[/url]How much oil might actually lie in Cuba's sector of the Gulf of Mexico is a matter of dispute. The Cuban government estimates the figure to be 20 billion barrels—an amount which, if recoverable, would transform the country and end its current dependence on subsidised Venezuelan oil.
The price of petrol paid at the pumps in Venezuela would suggest that it would be quite lucrative to buy from Venezuela and sell on to other countries.
Back on topic some more oraganic food [url= http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-12569011 ]here.[/url] 😆
Does Cuba have its own oil? The Economist seems to think that they're not producing yet.
Well The Economist isn't paying attention then - Cuba produces oil.
48,340 bbl/day (2009) according to the CIA Factbook .....about the same as Bahrain.
Which now simply begs the question of who to believe?
Which now simply begs the question of who to believe?
What, you suggest that The Economist should be believed then ?
Well maybe you could email that article to the headquarters of the Canadian energy company Sherritt International, I reckon they might be grateful - they obviously haven't seen it.
Because Sherritt will invest $100 million in their Cuban oil operations this year, up from $53 million last year. So it might save them some serious money if they read your Economist article - maybe they'll buy you a drink ? 💡
Let's just hope the fact that Sherritt International were actually producing 11,965 barrels of oil a day in Cuba last year, doesn't colour their opinion concerning the Economist's article eh ?
Other people who should read the Economist's article include the Chinese who are building Cuban oil rigs, and Italian and Spanish oil companies who, amongst others, are investing heavily in Cuban oil.
Oh, and maybe you should also tip off the CIA about the article in the Economist ?
Or maybe just give them a link to this thread 💡
@don simon,
Or, the non-boorish answer to your question, is that the Economist is talking about the 20 billion (or 5 billion) barrels of deep-water off-shore oil discovered recently.
Cuba does have some other small low-grade reserves.
this thread has been hijacked and diverted to Cuba
Cuba does have some other small low-grade reserves.
According to the CIA, Cuba's "small" amount of oil provides it with about 30% of their domestic needs. Which is probably in line with the Cuban government's claims.
You're actually quite funny underneath everything ernie, you also forgot to add Pebercan who had their contract terminated in 2009.
Boorish? 😯 😆
This feels a bit like the episode of Father Ted where Ted is trying to explain to Dougal the difference between small and far-away.
The "other small low-grade reserves" would be the ones that make up about 0.01% of global reserves.
Organic food is bull shit on a huge scale. I grew up on a big farm that grow cabbages in industrial quantities, the difference between organic and not organic often is the BAG they put them in...also just because its ORGANIC it does not mean that pesticides are not used on them, only ORGANIC ones, some of which are just as deadly if ingested as non organic ones! but im just be a simply country person, i don't know any thing like as much about agricultural production as you smart city foke!!!
......make up about 0.01% of global reserves
What's your point righttime .......... that Cuba isn't a major oil producer ? Well now ..... no one said that they were - did they ? But someone [i]did[/i] suggest that Cuba had no access to cheap oil, namely [i]you[/i], which is clearly false. [u]All[/u] of the oil which Cuba accesses is cheap, ie, below the global market price, either because it is domestically produced, or imported from Venezuela...... about 30/70.
The end of cheap Soviet oil in 1991 might well have been a wakeup call for Cuba, but to today the issues are different. And yet Cuba is still determined to fight over reliance on oil. This is for a variety of reasons including, deep concern for the devastating effects of climate change, and the equally devastating effects on food production in the Third World....... a very important point which should not be dismissed with false claims that its all down to Cuba's lack of access to cheap oil.
As I have already pointed out, Fidel has written many articles and given many speeches on the issues. In fact, he considers issues such as climate change and global hunger to be of equal importance to the political struggles against neocolonialism.
[i]"The societies of consumption and squandering of material resources are incompatible with the idea of economic growth and a clean planet" [/i] - Fidel Castro.
Just one of his many speeches on the above issues :
[url= http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=5278 ]Transforming Food into Fuel - the colossal squandering of cereals destined to fuel production[/url]
Quote :
[i]"The worst may be yet to come: a new war aimed at securing gas and oil supplies that can take humanity to the brink of total annihilation"[/i]
OK ernie,
just to satisfy my curiosity, when I said
have a look at agriculture in Cuba since the fall of Soviet Communism (and the end of Cuba's access to cheap oil)
what do you think I meant?
and if you don't think I should have used the word "end", how might I have phrased it better?
just to satisfy my curiosity
No really ......... you shouldn't be so curious about things of such little importance.
But if you really are that concerned with RE : [i]"how might I have phrased it better?"[/i] then I can only say that I really wasn't bothered with how you phrased it.
I simply responded with : "Cuba has access to cheap oil" as a point of information - which apparently you weren't very happy about. And I did so because it's true, ie, whatever the situation was 20 years ago, today, Cuba has access to cheap oil. A fairly important point imo because Cuba, as I've pointed out in my previous post, is determined to fight over reliance on oil for a whole variety of very important reasons.
So, in your universe, given that the Cubans didn't lose their access to cheap oil, why do you think they completely changed their agricultural system from the same sort of petrochemical based intensive system as everyone else with access to cheap oil, to one that used almost no oil and was therefore largely organic?
So, in your universe....
You see, presumably because you keep coming back you are keen to carry this on, but now I'm afraid I can't be arsed - because of silly infantile comments like that.
Specially as it's a prelude to falsely claiming that I had said [i]"the Cubans didn't lose their access to cheap oil"[/i] when you know full well that I had made the following statement :
[i]"Loss of cheap oil supplies was a very serious problem for Cuba after the collapse of the Soviet Union, however it no longer is."[/i]
So yeah, I can't be arsed anymore ..........Sorry.
As I've already pointed out, you only made that statement once you started backtracking.
Sure you can have a go at me for being a bit flippant, but the point is you know you are wrong on the substantive point.
In the early nineties the Cubans lost their support from the Soviet Union when it collapsed. I think that any reasonable person might characterise that as the "end" of cheap oil.
And that was the reason that Cuba changed its agricultural system.
Nowadays Cuba does get some oil (but not nearly so much as it got in Soviet days) from Venezuela, but it is far from "cheap". They may pay fewer dollars for it than world prices, but instead they provide Venezuela with up to 20,000 medical and other professional staff.
I'm glad you've stopped looking for ways to try and misinterpret what I've said - you're right, it is a waste of time.
Nowadays Cuba does get some oil (but not nearly so much as it got in Soviet days) from Venezuela, but it is far from "cheap".
Do you just make it up as you go along rightplace ? Cuba gets its oil from Venezuela at 40% discount - that is very clearly "cheap". Very cheap in fact.
And as for the accusation of "backtracking", I can assure you that I stand by very single word I've posted on the matter.
You are obviously rattled that someone has the temerity to challenge your misleading comments..........I'll bear that in mind for the future 🙂