[Closed] Opinions on a Cayenne.....*lights paper, stands well back*

Congrats on being loaded..!

I'm not going to abuse you

They are hideous

your choice 😉

I like em. Capable off road too. Not as capable as say a Disco. But less of them on the road. Quicker too. Heavy on fuel as you say though.

Isn't it just a VW?

you should buy what you like, but personally, if i had the money its the last thing on earth I'd consider. for too many reasons to list.

I agree, they aren't much of a looker but for the money you can't get anywhere near that sort of power with that amount of kit from anything else.

Additionally, £1300 gives you 550hp which should destroy my friends RS6. Crucial.....

Not the prettiest of vehicle.

before they all get legislated out of existence.

I'd be worried about residuals - probably why they're going cheap at the mo, and the tax / fuel regime could be worse by the time you come to sell.

man up and buy a 911

Forgetting the whole w@nker wagon issue, they're just so fugly!

A Cayenne for a commuter?

*head explodes*

911 and a roof rack, buy a porsche get a proper one

Is the new tax banding thing only applicable on cars newer than 2004? Is it not just the blanket £400 or have I conjured that number up?

Dont bother with the turbo model, pisses through fuel and only a mighty 0.1sec faster to 60.

It's also gopping.

I had to Google to find out what on earth it is.
That is one ugly Chelsea tractor...seems perfect if you have money and no taste I guess.

911's are all well and good but for similar money I'd be looking at a ropey 996 Carrera 2 - the one I had a look at last weekend had a car phone in it the size of a phonebook. And not the new smaller pathetic 'everyones gone ex-directory' phone book either...

Older ones are fugly newer ones look quite nice. Probably wouldnt be my vehicle of choice but its not my choice. Would you really want to put a muddy bike in a Porsche tho?

Do yourself a favour - get the Cayman or Boxster Spyder instead. Use something else for the bike

man up and buy a 911

+ 1

Funny enough I just on confused and got an insurance quote of £600 for a boxster, which wasn't quite as shocking as I'd hoped for 🙂

There are other fast estates - M5 estates have been around while.

Personally, if I had that kind of cash about, I'd buy whatever sports car I fancied - an Elise, a Boxster, an M3, whatever, and a "meh" car I can stick the bikes in. Or a hot hatch.

I can't really see the point of the Cayenne as a vehicle. For me it's up there with the AMG G-Wagen and wearing a gold chain with a diamond encrusted $ symbol.

My sister in law had a non-turbo version. They lost a sh1tload of money on it, was fairly uncomfortable, very thirsty and was basically a waste of space compared to our XC90 which at least does 30mpg and can fit lots of my daughters mates inside.
Other than that..... brilliant - apart from the looks 😐

get the Cayman or Boxster Spyder

You mean the ones you buy when you can't afford a 911?

911 and a roof rack, buy a porsche get a proper one

This.

Quite cheap, yep residuals are poor.........Parts however are shockingly expensive for those babys better get some heavy duty KY to go with it

It's a pointless car bought by pointless people for pointless things.

Everytime I see one I wonder how stupid the driver must be.

Presuming you are serious (which I hope you aren't), everyone in the know will know you are driving round in a 13K car and aren't really loaded at all. This is in addition to the other drawbacks highlighted above.

Really all you will be saying is I am a ******.

You mean the ones you buy when you can't afford a 911?

Lighter, more fun? Don't know as I haven't driven one. Engine not the wrong side of the rear axle?

And yes, the sort of money that a damn site more folks could aspire to.

Have a friend with a turbo, and he loves it but is getting fed up with all the abuse he gets on the road. As a car in its own
Right it has been fine and super quick as well as fairly competent off road as well. However if you ever go near a porsche dealer be prepared for some BIG bills! ( they tried to chrarge Gary £600 for an oil change and £250 for a plastic wheel arch liner !)

Personally, I would look for a good Range Rover (pre the P4 model which was nowhere near as good as the earlier one).
They are cheaper to buy in the first place (enough to by a decent 'spare' bike and a couple trips away), look, and in my opinion are, cooler and just exude class. Also the values on pre P4 cars is going up at moment so if you going to keep it for a year you shouldn't lose that much if anything in depreciation.

The Range Rovers running costs are lower as well, but not by a massive amount.

I can't really see the point of the Cayenne as a vehicle.

Cars!

£600 for a boxster

I'm paying that for a '01 1.3 Fiesta with a friggin' pushrod engine 😥

Congrats on being loaded..!

But commiserations on having no taste.

Non turbos are just a drag and pretty pointless. Turbos are fast but still pointless. Get a Touareg deisel if you really need a 4x4.

A Cayenne is a car that you buy [u]regardless[/u] of people's opinions. So this thread is pretty much pointless.

They're wrong in so many ways but it's the kind of thing I can see myself having for a while, enjoying and then getting rid of.

We don't have to be sensible all the time, do we?

We don't have to be sensible all the time, do we?

I've been driven around the back lanes of Devon in a turbo version - stupid qick and surprisingly capable in the twisty stuff for such a big unit... still biddy fugly though!

Dunno if it's been mentioned above - you know they are very thirsty, don't seem to worry about that in your commute but, what about when you hit the byways, heading for trails farther away - cost will rack up then..

Just my 0.02..

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Have you looked at E55 AMG mercs, the estate is nice and again residuals low due to the polar bear killing fuel consumption.

Bazzer

PS I thought the Cayenne was limited off road due to the fact tyre choice was limited and none were very good offroad. Though I might be getting mixed up with an X5

Thanks for the replies folks

I'm not buying it to show how well-off I'm not. I'm not really that bothered about what other people think - I tend not to buy cars based on whether I upset someone else or not and I think if you do buy a car to display wealth then you probably have some more deep rooted issues that need attention.

To me, it seemed like a decent way to buy something with muchos BHP, bike carrying capability and decent build quality for not much cash. I don't really want the hassle of having a shunter + nice car as I already have the Mrs car to pay for too, so that would be 3 motors x tax, insurance, servicing and so on.

I suppose the reason for the post was to see if I got any 'Christ no, don't buy one of those - the gearbox will lunch itself and burst into flames' or 'yeah 500bhp but its still slow and wobbles'. I agree that they're a 'bit' OTT but I don't really mind that. I've driven to work in an astravan for the past 2 years (I work in IT) so image doesn't really bother me.

Bazzer - I like the cut of your jib

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The only thing that puts me off is that its an estate. Now I realise that a Cayenne is an estate, but its an estate on bigger wheels. Fussy I know, but these things matter (to me....)

Then one thing leads to another, I get looking at Pistonheads again and...

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Now that I LIKE...

What do you class as not much cash, you must live in a different world to alot of people!

IMO the Porsche is better than the BMW X5 because you look slightly less of a C@ck. 🙂

Now that I LIKE...

I've been in one, its a cracking drive, sporty and fast but super relaxing to drive and luxurious inside. The diesel is impressively economical: 38 mpg combined.

Servicing, tyres etc are silly expensive though and there's not much room in the back either. Its a big car as well, too wide for the country lanes where I live.

Is it a type of sandwich?

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I'd go amg wagon or an rs4 over a cayenne anyday. Or a 911 and be done with it, every time I drive mine I giggle, other people would giggle at your cayenne

A 550bhp cayenne still won't be as quick as an RS6.

Cayenne does tick a lot of boxes and they are indecently rapid in turbo (or even S) form.

Forget what everyone here thinks - just get one and have some fun!

Also look at the AMG M Class Mercs and the X5 4.8is - both also rapid SUVs that all STWers will hate.

Loads of people recommending estate cars but seeing as you didn't suggest one, I assume you don't want one?!

If you do and judging your approx budget from the 996 comment, look at a BMW 550i Touring (stealth M5 that's much better on fuel) and a remapped 535d Touring. I have a feeling a 3 series will be too small? If not I will always recommend the 335d Touring cos I love mine 😉

Get an Alpina, pure class. Had 2 and prefered them to my AMG's or M3's, now drive a battered Touran!

Damn. where did it all go wrong...

So go for an E55 AMG in a saloon then ? I sugested the estate for the bike carrying and they also use the estate as the F1 pace car 🙂

If he is after a Starship Enterprise warp drive uber barge then surely the V10 M5 is the only model worth considering. All the others are great cars but ordinary in comparison to the 500BHP+ big hitters.

Bazzer

We don't have to be sensible all the time, do we?

Or tasteful, or smart, or dignified...

Nope, I don't see why we have to be tasteful, smart or dignified [b][i]all[/i][/b] the time either.

An ex-financial director of mine had one on test for a couple of days when he was looking for a new car, and I got to drive it one lunchtime. The one thing that stuck in my mind is it was [i]astonishingly [/i]fast, especially for the size of the thing.

He tried a bunch of vehicles in the same class, ended up buying the Touareg.

Just not my cup of tea personally. I just dont see that it covers any of the bases fully enough to be worth the money of the all out power.

OK - it'll be fast, certainly in a straight line, but hit a corner, and no matter how good the suspension/steering, you will feel its weight. You'll always notice it and wonder about what if the lighter handling of a sports car would have been better.

The flip side is that when you're not booting it, and you're cruising along, bikes in the back using the practical side of it, it'll have a hefty fuel bill and drink.

I have a 4.4 V8 Range Rover. OK - its not Cayenne in terms of power, but its no slouch off the line with the foot to the floor. I didn't see the need of a bigger power output ( and even more thirstier ), when its already something that I can push along quickly. Cause its a stock engine ( no chargers or turbos ), I've got it LPG'ed as well, which helps too. On a run, i'll be up at equivalent running costs of 30+mpg.

I now think that if I want the speed/handling, I'd definitely go the 2 seater sports car route.

Your only on Gods earth for a limited number of years.

You might as well spend a couple of those in a big 4x4 that goes fast if you can.

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I reckon fill ya boots and scratch the itch and bollox to the "nay" sayers

If you haven't already had a car that size I would have a think about the practicalities. I had a big 4x4 for a couple of years and loved the space, comfort, power etc but it was a pain in the ass to drive in town and park anywhere. It just wasn't a fun car to own. Replaced it with a wrx wagon which is perfect for carrying a couple of bikes, cheaper and a lot more fun to run about in.

This thread has reminded me why I stopped coming in here.

Tossers.

I'm not sure why you can't fit a bike into the back of a RS6 or a E55 AMG or an M5 estate? I don't think that the Cayenne's boot is any bigger.

It's funny that the RS6 or E55 both have amazing thirsts, not much different to the Cayenne but get loads less abuse than a 4x4.

The Cayenne doesn't do it for me but each to their own. You can't get hacked off by 4x4's down here in deepest Surrey there are sooo many.

Olly
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in resposne to OP.

Cayenne. Put simply - a triumph of marketing over engineering.

An incredible (good) execution of a totally sh*t concept. Ferdinand must be in his grave doing more revs than a bi-turbo 3.6 flat 6

Olly - Member
This thread has reminded me why I stopped coming in here.
Tossers.

So wait. Are you pro or against the Cayenne?

....or were you just fed up of having your toys actually in your pram?

Ultimately, they're all just mobile gun platforms for urban drug wars.

With that in mind, why not get a Cadillac Escalade on 22 inch chrome rims.
Spinners optional, but encouraged.

Wow, being in a position to buy a nice car certainly stirs up some latent negativity among the STW massif doesn't it?

My advice: do what I did and get a Porsche 996 Carrera PLUS an old beater estate (I got an Isuzu Trooper) to chuck muddy bikes/dogs/children into.

I prefer the looks of the Touareg over the Cayenne if you go down that route anyway.

pimp
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Pimp?

...Im sure Id of loved that when I was about 14.

Flange - In my opinion (I think you posted looking for them) your P.H finds are a much much better idea.

Bakes - That thing is FUGLY

Porsche Cayenne A-Team version .... I pity the fool!

Wow, being in a position to buy a nice car certainly stirs up some latent negativity among the STW massif doesn't it?

Stop mincing and get a bowler Tomcat

I looked at a few Cayennes as I wanted something big and practical, but that was nice to drive too. In the end I bought a diesel RR Vogue as it just 'felt' nicer to drive, and I am getting about 28mpg compared with about 18mpg from a Cayenne S and maybe 15mpg from a Turbo. Pistonheads.com has a prety decent Porka forum but is mainly 911 focused to be fair.

There is so many of them round my way that they aren't hated in the way they seem to be in some places, but it was the running costs and residuals that put me off in the end and I don't care what people think anyway!

I have always previously had fast cars, but with 2 kids, a dog and a family who now all cycles, I needed something bigger than your average estate and am liking the way I drive everywhere in a far more relaxed manner now!

I looked at 535D estates (fast but boring), C55 AMG states (same) and very nearly bought a 550i (which was lovely - what an engine) but couldn't find an estate or a saloon with folding rear seats. Never been a fan of Audis (apart from the V8 RS4) and the RS6 can have Cayenne shaming running costs so didn't fancy one of those.

Touch wood, the Range has been 100% reliable so far and still makes me smile every time I drive it.

Olly - Member
This thread has reminded me why I stopped coming in here.
Tossers.

That Cayenne will cost about £8 Squillion every time it goes in the Porsche workshop!

konabunny - Member

Now that I LIKE...

Works in IT, posts on STW, likes Audi estates...

Works in IT - Not at the moment, but would love to get back into it.
Posts on STW - Erm, yep!
Likes Audi Estates - Has owned one for past 9 years.

Is there a pattern forming here?

This thread has reminded me why I stopped coming in here.

Tossers.

Funny, attitudes like yours tend to have the same effect on quite a few people. Mind you shut the door on your way out...

Nope, I don't see why we have to be tasteful, smart or dignified all the time either.

Saw one on the motorway yesterday. Had the reg plate FLA 5H.

Driver was a fat bloke with piggy eyes and a smug expression. Said it all really.

Can't be arsed to read the above but at what point do you think a cayenne will be quicker than an rs6? The only quicker I can think of is coming off the Tarmac when attempting to corner as fast as the rs6! That baby will eat the porker for breakfast!!!!!!!!!!

Saw one on the motorway yesterday. Had the reg plate FLA 5H.

Driver was a fat bloke with piggy eyes and a smug expression. Said it all really.

"Considerably richer than yow"

There's no way a Cayenne will be faster than an RS6 - not even with 550bhp. It's just too heavy and unaerodynamic.

Never understood why anyone would want to buy an off roader that actually is not very good at going off-road. I'd say if you want an off roader then buy a proper Land Rover, Jeep or something similar that can actually do the job intended. If you want a fast vehicle that handles well then buy a proper car - end of.

I considered one, but got a disco 3. Dad had a Q7 which is similar but the boot dimensions were a pita.