I had a bit of a scare with my collection yesterday so am thinking of backing up to an online site.
I don't mind paying for this if I have to.
What would you recommend?
Would like something with no ads if poss.
Easy to use a must.
Storage of full size files would be good.
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Flickr Pro.
Don Simon do you have an acc with them? If so could I take a look to see if it is what I am after?
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I don't have a Pro account anymore as I had problems with the Yahoo customer services in general, that said the Flickr site is good.
[url= http://www.flickr.com/photos/think180/ ]Have a nose around here.[/url] The Pro site is more or less the same, unlimited uploads, site counters and one or two other things.
Some nice pics there, particularly like the Contador one.
Thing is though the largest image I can see on your site is 640x400, does it get larger on the Pro acc?
One thing that puts me off Flickr is I haven't had great customer service from Yahoo in the past........
Oh, and thanks for taking the time to respond.
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That's because a lot of them have been uploaded at that size because it's an arse around site for me, I just use it as a site to link to forums etc.
You can upload larger files, you'll have to go to the T&Cs to see if there is a file size limit though. 21Mpix is going to be a large file and possibly not accepted, but I'm not too sure.
What size are you looking at?
Some nice pics there, particularly like the Contador one.
Thanks.
I use smugmug, which I pay about £15 a year, which sounds ok to me.[url= http://www.richmars.smugmug.com ]This is my bit.[/url]
15?
15?
It's about that, it's priced in $'s so it changes. I haven't checked but I'm sure it's about that.
I have an account with [url= http://simoncarter.zenfolio.com/ ]Zenfolio[/url] which is more or less the same as Smugmug, except the pricing. That's cheap! The only reason I don't recommend Zenfolio is because even as the owner of the photos I have to pay a download/admin charge for accessing my own pictures. I imagine this will be the same with Smugmug, no?
I've just had a look and the Zenfolio basic price is just $25,00, I think there will be an extra 10% discount if you use the discount code 9DQ-FX3-DQC.
Ok, so just checked smugmug, basic is $40 a year.[url= http://www.smugmug.com/photos/photo-sharing-features/ ]Details here.[/url]
I don't pay to upload/download or view my own pictures.
Flickpro is well worth it costs about £12 per year and yeah you can store big images.
Has a nice easy way to produce links for forums and the likes.
Ok it's more than £12 sorry as it's 25 dollars so about £16
If you just want storage, and not viewing as well, then how about [url= http://www.dropbox.com/ ]Dropbox[/url]?
Smug mug beats out Flickr for me.
Flickr doesntt allow you to link to ebay auctions!
Smug mug beats out Flickr for me.
Flickr doesntt allow you to link to ebay auctions!
At £10 per year more if that's the best advantage there is then it's not a convincing argument.
+1 for [url= http://www.flickr.com/photos/stuartie_c/ ]Flickr Pro[/url].
Unlimited uploads, unlimited file-sizes, auto-archiving by month, collections and sets, html and bbcode links for forums, etc, etc.
£16 a year is fantastic value if you make a lot of use of it.
I quite like https://picasaweb.google.com/ at the moment.
In terms of outright backup though, I keep meaning to copy all my photos and other irreplaceable data onto a cheap hard disk and leave it at my mum's.
box.net and mobileme.
but these are for storage of full size 60-120meg tiffs.
gallery sites like flickr aren't usually set up for full size files.
gallery sites like flickr aren't usually set up for full size files.
With maybe the exception of Flickr.
I would be wary of f;lickr as this article shows [url= http://www.techeye.net/internet/flickr-spits-on-user-with-4000-photo-loss-bungle ]here[/url]
I use dropbox as its totally seamless, syncs everything automatically on every device I have, and has the ability to let you restore deleted items from their web portal.
I keep all my work and pics data there. Althought the free account only gives you 2GB space, you can upgrade to whatever you need.
So the only copy the guy had of this photos was on flickr, yup he's a muppet.
I would be wary of f;lickr as this article shows here
[url= http://www.observer.com/2011/tech/flickr-restores-mirco-wilhelms-3400-lost-photos-and-really-really-sorry-about ]But just for balance...[/url]
Also, if you are THAT bothered about your pictures you would have a physical backups as well as originals as as well as online backups as well as etc etc.
So the only copy the guy had of this photos was on flickr, yup he's a muppet.
I read about this at the time. His beef wasn't the loss of photos, it was the loss of metadata; the tagging and linking from other websites that he'd painstakingly put together over several thousand photos. It was wildly misreported to make him look like a berk for not having backups, but it was the loss of time and work that was the issue.
Flickr for me - I use BT as my broadband supplier so get the Pro account as part of the package - the only thing it doesn't seem to do is allow you to download the original files again - I've used various phones/camera's PC's to upload pics and it would be nice to be able to get them all on 1 machine...but it isn't a major issue for me.
Totally depends on what you do with it - I do very little other than upload pics and either add them to my Twitter account or protect them from general access so the family can see pics of our daughter.
only thing it doesn't seem to do is allow you to download the original files again
Apparently you can not tried to so not sure how.
I read about this at the time. His beef wasn't the loss of photos, it was the loss of metadata; the tagging and linking from other websites that he'd painstakingly put together over several thousand photos
Ah so he lost some links.
Apparently you can not tried to so not sure how.
On the photo page, click the magnifying glass or press L to enter lightbox mode. You'll see the "all sizes" link at the top right. Click this and you can then see the photo at "original" size with a "download..." link above it.
With maybe the exception of Flickr.
with a 20mb file size limit. that's not big enough
plus: [i]"Flickr officially supports JPEGs, non-animated GIFs, and PNGs. You can also upload TIFFs and some other file types, but they will automatically be converted to and stored in JPEG format."[/i]
so it probably converts to sRGB that will change out of gamut colours.
their 'pro' service definitely isn't a professional way of storing images.
Flickr again here
their 'pro' service definitely isn't a professional way of storing images.
I think most of us hack amateurs who have paid £16 a year have worked that out for ourselves...
and once the remainder work it out there will not be any moaning about stripping metadata and changing colourspaces.
their 'pro' service definitely isn't a professional way of storing images.
Obviously the use of "pro" as a marketing tool hasn't got past you. 😉
I somehow think that the OP isn't a pro and is just looking to upload and store personal images with the ability to retreive them as and when. I'd be very surprised if the OP needed to upload files of 20MB.
Flickr, Smugmug or Zenfolio would be perfect, the Picasa I've never liked as it always took an age for photos to load and the pages doesn't look well put together. This is all my very personal and humble opinion.
I don't pay to upload/download or view my own pictures.
Just had a look at Zenfolio and found I can download the original file without paying either.
If you just want to have a backup why do you need a photo organiser (i assume you've already got something on your PC to view them)? Why not just use an online storage tool like Jungledisk. You can set it to back up your photo folders automatically so no messing around uploading pictures, there's no limit on file size, it's backed up in multiple locations...
Flickr is for photo sharing. It's simply not designed as a backup service.
If you want file backup, use a service that's designed for that, like Dropbox or SugarSync.
Or if you just want to guard against disk failure rather than fire or theft, just buy another hard disk and a local backup application.
plus: "Flickr officially supports JPEGs, non-animated GIFs, and PNGs. You can also upload TIFFs and some other file types, but they will automatically be converted to and stored in JPEG format."so it probably converts to sRGB that will change out of gamut colours.
How cuunning of you to miss this bit.
If you have a pro account, we also store your high-resolution originals, which you can download at anytime as long as you remain Pro
But yeah Bez has it really, flickr offers good gallery service with some sort of backup but true backup is what he suggested.
On the photo page, click the magnifying glass or press L to enter lightbox mode. You'll see the "all sizes" link at the top right. Click this and you can then see the photo at "original" size with a "download..." link above it.
Yup, found that a good wee while ago, however I think I'm currently sitting with just over (or under) 2k images on there...sitting doing that for each one isn't going to be the best use of time.
If there was an 'admin' function for your photos that allowed you to kick off a download (either of all or by Set or Collection) and they were downloaded to your PC it would be spot on - doing it by set/collection would also then allow you to mirror the set up on Flickr on your home system.
Mrs Inbred has used Snapfish for many years now. Great service and linkability and their prints are competitively priced.
If you search there's bound to be a tool that uses the Flickr API to retrieve all your images. Check the Flickr Hacks group on the site itself if need be.
And that is one of the things that makes flickr so useful for me. The wealth of tools the community have developed is huge. And for 15 quid a year, it seems rude not to. I have a cheap external hard drive for backing up important stuff.
If you have a pro account, we also store your high-resolution originals, which you can download at anytime as long as you remain Pro
How cuunning of you to miss this bit.
how cunning of you to ignore my comment about the 20mb file limit and converting to sRGB colourspace
[/i]My original image is 5415x3610 pixels and is 23.5 MB. In Flickr's bulk uploader (that I use to upload all of my photos to flickr) I've selected the option "don't resize my photos." Out of my 25 uploads this morning, flickr did in fact upload the actual originals of 24 of the 25 photos. The one that was over 20MB though was automatically resized to 2048 x 1365 pixels and now is a miserly 627KB.
While I can understand where Flickr might not want to notify me that my image was over the 20MB limit, reducing it down to a sub 1M file seems like overkill. I've always assumed that my photos on flickr could be perfect backup copies for me in the event that I lost my original photos (which are already backed up on multiple drobos and elsewhere in the cloud). It's disappointing to know that even though I told the bulk uploader not to resize my photos that Flickr has been resizing some of my photos anyways. I suggest that if they are going to keep doing this that they put a disclaimer on the bulk uploader that photos over 20MB will be resized.[i]
the 'original' is resized with a 'pro' account
I used to use FlickrDown for bulk downloads (my sister was travelling in Australia and so I backed everything up on a local computer as she uploaded to her flickr account) but unfortunately that's no longer available. Plenty of alternatives suggested [url= http://www.flickr.com/services/apps/search/?q=download ]here[/url]