[Closed] one week till a tory majority

Keep taking the tablets,it keeps your evil thoughts under control.

put some brown tinted specs on and it'll be reet.

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Sob

I will do everything in my power to stop them(With a half size pencil in a small wooden cubicle)but I think you might be correct.

Our only chance is if They wheel out the Thatcher to make a special guest appearance somewhere and it reminds the man in the street what fuels these..... these ....people?

The silent tory voters will march to the polling booths

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tory majority?

more chance of a nigel farage being pm

Hung parliament. SNP & Plaid will have the balance of power. England will get its independence at last, but not before a vote is made for them to have the same countryside access rights as the Scots.

Must go now and take a pic of the flying pigs... 🙂

I've just been sick in my mouth...

But will the mouthy (not really a bigot it was all a misunderstanding) Labour voters bother to go to the post box?
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I'm a white, middle class professional earning well above the national average wage.

If that Tory c--t gets in, I'll take me and my income elsewhere (and with it the taxes Tory Dave needs).

Thing is, if after 13yrs of a Labour Govt the Conservatives cannot gain a Parliamentary majority where does it leave them?

If the price of a minority Labour/Lib Dem coalition is a change to PR then will the Tories be effectively shut out of the power process for good?

more chance of a nigel farage being pm

Whatever gets you through the night Kimbers

thanks most of you for cheering me up but I like most

a vote is made for them (england)to have the same countryside access rights as the Scots

then there is the world cup.....

i should rephrase that
more chance of a nigel farage being pm .....of belgium

C'mon

Lib Dem for a fairer, more thoughtful and less confrontational future. I think.

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I've been sick in my mouth again!

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morpheus - Member
thanks most of you for cheering me up but I like most

a vote is made for them (england)to have the same countryside access rights as the Scots

then there is the world cup.....

We'll vote for you to have that too. Might shut you lot up about the last time you won it 🙂

Bloody Tory Boy!

Sweet 😉

Good. What this country needs is a damn good thrashing.

On the bright side, if they do get in they will so unpopular after 4 years of cutting every public service they will be voted out of power for another generation.

Tories get in and we're all ****ed.

Can't wait to have policing, education and the NHS reversed back to the state they were in the 80's.

Good news though for my Cousins who will not pay inheritance tax on my uncles Million pound house. Good for them i say. They were struggling a little on their trust fund too.

Awesome.

If the tory's win all the rednecked beurocrats in local authorities and public services can look out. You know the kind of people i'm referring to. I dont think any party will reduce the plods or nurses, but those paper pushing pencil dicks monitoring statistics need culling. All this equals less money being spent. GB and his lot haven't got the minerals to do this. If they did, they would have done it years ago.

And who knows, some of these paper pushers might actually start to contribute some income to the economy, rather than drawing off it

IMO.

I reckon it's going to be a tiny Labour majority and they will be returned to power. Lib Dems have effectively scuppered any chance of the Tories getting a majority.

The upside is that I think Labour have the best plans for seeing us out of this financial mess, downside is that we won't get the electoral reform we need unless the Lib Dems get in as part of a coalition.

But Mr Spangle, how do you find out who those people actually are? Fly/spider/.../horse issue going on there, I fear.

Lib dem / Tory coalition innit with callmedave as pm.

Those that seem to think the Tories will cock up the economy seem a little confused to me. The economy is already well and truly cocked. We are broke. It is difficult to see how we could be in any worse state - unless Labour manage to get in and have another go at finishing it off. The levels of national debt and borrowing are staggering. Mervyn King is probably not far wrong in that whoever gets in will have to make pretty savage cuts somewhere and will not be popular. It ain't gonna be pretty for the next few years - whoever wins.

Eccles.
I think, DC knows how. He's just not saying. Lets be honest, that view would not be popular with the majority of undecided's

Not sure eating insects is the way forward tho!!

Regardless of their hollow policies, how anyone could think about putting that pair of c**ts in power is utterly beyond me.

Me and my wife seriously discussed leaving the country if they win, but then realised we were being a bit childish.

The money has all gone, whoever gets in has got to raise taxes and make cuts. If you think that there will not be spending cuts then you are deluded. I reckon that we should leave Gordon in to sort it, after all his track record on the economy is the best. His years as chanceller and now PM prove his abilities, we would have been finished without him. Anyone who thinks Gordon should have been saving some money in the good times to protect us in a recession is stupid. I also admire his skills with people, particularly his way with life long Labour voters.

bikingcatstrophe

the torys could cock it up hugely

by sending us back into recession because osborne has no clue

if gordon and alistair had listened to him wed still be in recession and several banks would have gone under and thousands of people would have lost everything

a tory majority might still see that come true

as stated yesterday

some modest inflation
some tax rises
some cutbacks
closing down tax loopholes

what you might call a selection of all the partys policies which is just what would happen if we were to have i dunno. a hung parliament

with lib dems getting the final say and trading it in for proportional representation and an end to buying your seat in the house of lords

all in all should ensure that the torries never get elected again!

It’s come down to political X-Factor. Brown has come across in the TV debates like a rather stuffy accountant, but there is substance to his words. Unlike Cameron who is highly polished but just talks spiel cut/pasted straight from The Daily Mail.

Question: How will you cap immigration from within the EU, as that’s illegal?

Dave: The issue is fairness for hard working families.

Question: No, how will you cap it and what will it be?

Dave: We’ll scrap the jobs tax and reincarnate Princess Diana

Question: What’s number you’ll allow in?

Dave: A free DVD of Midsummer Murders for all Tory Voters

Just to re-iterate, Labour didn't create the mess, nor did they make it worse - they made it better. At least, GB and Darling did I reckon.

LOL at Papa Lazarou. 😆

Nulab are a car crash - FACT http://blogs.channel4.com/snowblog/2010/04/30/a-car-crash-as-labour-unveils-its-posters/

"The economy is already well and truly cocked." For the tories to try and blame Labour for this is a joke - it's called a global recession.

If I recall correctly, Dave & co voted against bailing out the banks and privatising Northern Rock and if they’d got there way, we’d all be well and truly ****ed. Most countries are in trouble at the moment, but like Brown or not, we are in a better situation due to his strategy.

Well, you've gotta be a fekking deranged lunatic to vote Labour.....

Here is a brief introduction to politics in the UK:

10 Labour party is elected
20 Labour party screw up the economy
30 People get sick of a screwed up economy
40 Tory party get elected
50 Tory party cut the deficit
60 People are seduced by the idea of increased spending and being nice.
70 Goto 10

Well, you've gotta be a fekking deranged lunatic to vote Labour.....

Why?

Someone must have done a sketch/mockup of Pap Lazarou and Callmedave. Labour have missed a trick if they haven't thought of it already.

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Labour have to go. They've been in too long and it's time for someone else to have a turn at the wheel.

It doesn't matter who, what matters is GB & Co get slung out. It was the same with the last Tory Govt, when they've been in too long they need booting out to reset them.

tron you got 50 wrong....

50 tory party get extremely lucky and strike oil in the north sea (after previous labour government had got americans in to drill for it) thus bailing tehmselves out after their crippling cuts had devastated the economy

still at least samantha cameron will be saved from paying all those millions in inheritance tax, i was really worried about her

when they've been in too long they need booting out to reset them

Ever heard of the phrase, if it ain't broke don't fix it?

The tories got booted out because they completly brought the UK to its knees.

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Thing is, if after 13yrs of a Labour Govt the Conservatives cannot gain a Parliamentary majority where does it leave them?

In the same place Labour were 1992?

I'll actually weep if that smarmy tory c**t is grinning outside the door of No10 on 7th May.
You just know that behind the scenes the people who really run the Tory party are absolutely itching to get stuck in with the slash n burn of the public sector. Safe as they are with their huge pensions, private healthcare, kids in private education etc. If the proles don't have this, then **** em. Unlucky eh?

And on the economy..... I wouldn't trust George Osbourne to run a ****ing bath. Never mind the countries economy

Couldn't agree more Binners.

It's like turkeys voting for Christmas.

The tories got booted out because they completly brought the UK to its knees.

Short memories around here.

At the time the economy was actually doing OK, but there was a deadly mixture of sleazy politicians and internecine warfare over Europe.

PeterPoddy - Member

Well, you've gotta be a fekking deranged lunatic to vote Labour.....

Mine's the straightjacket with the union flag on it, ta...

i wasnt sure about who i hated the least, but that smarmy PR!CK cameron has turned me well away from those double barreled tools.

"none of the [tossers] above" for me

Well, you've gotta be a fekking deranged lunatic to vote Labour.....

I actually can't vote Labour here. It turns out that our Labour candidate used to be with the Lib Dems, but was kicked out. Unsuitable suggestions to the ladies, or something like that.

So now he's been deselected by the Labour party as well, but it's all a bit late.

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From my views, without being coloured by distant history:
Labout have had plenty of time to introduce some of the ideas they have presented this month, why have they not got stuck in earlier? Forced to do it now election time is here? Semi-safe vote, if you're happy with how things are currently.
Lib Dems - some interesting ideas, but some barking ones. Risky vote.
Conservatives - Some useful ideas and good values, but how will they affect the economy, not sure. semi-safe vote if you want a little change.

Swings and roundabouts, I like the vast majority of the public, don't have the background in economics to follow the slightly finer details and how they affect the future, and in fact if anyone knew them for sure there would be only one route out. While I can understand the comfort in assessing things based on past events and performance, I'm not sure that it applies to the current position and economic situation, or that the policies put forward by any of them is even broadly similar to historic policies.

molgrips - Member

Just to re-iterate, Labour didn't create the mess, nor did they make it worse - they made it better. At least, GB and Darling did I reckon.

😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆

Global recession you say? Well, yes there is, but it's not solely a global recession that has left our financial cupboard bare. GB is a walking disaster and I still believe him to be the worst chancelor we have ever had. How anyone with even half a brain can walk into office and claim that he will end boom and bust. Right. Detached from reality! Deluded about his own ability and capabilities.

As was mentioned up there ^^ the last Tory government weren't thrown outr because a wrecked economy it was largey the result of the political sleaze and the fact that multi term governments end up getting stale and complacent. The economy was in pretty good shape in 97. So much so that Nulab kept the current spending plans in place to avoid destabilising the growth and strength of the economy. GB was then the luckiest chancelor in history by living in a time of unprecedented growth and stability so all his little plans and schemes and tinkering and spending could go pretty much unnoticed. Then, when things did start to go a bit pear shaped, we suddenly discover that we are in a pretty dire position. I don't buy any of his "I'm the man that steered us out of the mess" because #1 we are not out of the mess yet, #2 he was culpable in putting us in the mess in the first place.
Truth be told, I'm not sure I could trust any of our current crop of politicians to really deliver us out of the mire of debt and make significant improvements to our society. However, I do know that I do not want any more of GB so I for one hope he is gone come May 7th.

Gordon Brown has been the economic saviour of this country (possibly the world) and he knows it.

mt - I really, really hope you are being facetious.

I believe mt has tongue well and truly in cheek 😉

Gordon Brown has been the economic saviour of this country (possibly the world) and he knows it.

Well, I wouldn't go that far 😆 😉 and he wasn't exactly on the ball on the run up to the crash, but he did stop the economy sliding into depression. You tory half-wits do bleat on about the debt, but don't say a lot about how that money was used to save the banks. In fact I don't recall Cameron in his election campaign saying it was wrong to do so either.

Why is that eh?

I hope mt is taking the wee. Because reading some of the other posts on here, some folk really do seem to believe that.

Scary.

[i]You tory half-wits [/i] So if you think GB is an idiot, you are a Tory half wit?

It's a black and white world in the desperate Labour camp. Oops, I said black and white, does that make me a bigot?

Look we have a massive national debt all down to Gordon. The guy deserves some credit for his hard work in getting it so high. The least we can do is thank him and vote him back as PM. His record is second to none as a person who understand finance and the world economy. He could have been the boss at the IMF but instead he chose to stay here and become the PM, a job that he did not ask for but was thrust on him reluctantly. Show him some respect.

Call me cynical if you like but I'm old enough to recall the 3 day week, the miners strikes, the share sell off etc and have now come to the conclusion that they are all as bad as each other in most ways and that which ever party gets in there are only 2 facts which stick .

1/ Tax will rise.
2/ Death comes to us all.

I reckon that for the vast majority of folks where I work ( and probably STWers ) the result will not make a huge differance to our lives.

If Labour are in power the few really poor of the country benefit in a good way, and a larger number of lower paid think they have had benefit ( help ) due to spin and propaganda but if you look closely nothing much changes.

If the Tories are in power then the equally small number of really wealthy see a benefit and as above a larger number of better paid folk think they see a benefit but again if they look more closely there is actually very little or no change.

There is a time in the lifespan of everything when change is naturally due and I really think that time has come in British politics so I'll be hoping for a very large number of Lib Dem MPs this session so we have a chance to break the 2 party cycle.

We may then get to a system where an idea is not opposed purely because the 'other' lot brought it up, there would have to be proper grown up discussion about what is actually best for the country ... now there's a novel idea 😉

Bullseye

The whole bloody world was drawn into a cycle of over borrowing paid for by returns on investments based on lending to people (and governments) that had borrowed more than they should have been allowed to. Seems obvious now with hindsight but a hell of a lot of people, including most of us, have in one way or another been riding that wave. It cannot be laid at Gordon Brown's door as solely his fault. Ok, he didn't spot it any earlier than anyone else but I don't have any confidence that Osbourne or Cameron would have either.

Since then I'm fairly happy that Brown and Darling have made the best of a bad job. As has been pointed out, if we had gone with the suggestions Osbourne was making we'd be truly ****ed now.

Seems obvious now with hindsight but a hell of a lot of people, including most of us, have in one way or another been riding that wave. It cannot be laid at Gordon Brown's door as solely his fault.

He's a politician. I wouldn't expect any politician to upset the applecart of the voters before the trouble hit, because they would have been voted out of power by doing so. The voters or the british public tend to forget that they were also complicit in this.

Swings and roundabouts, I like the vast majority of the public, don't have the background in economics to follow the slightly finer details and how they affect the future, and in fact if anyone knew them for sure there would be only one route out.

Our economics lecturer once showed us a graph of UK GDP over the past 50 years or so. Despite having tried pretty much every economic policy going, including some fairly deranged ones (price and measures in the 70s), there's an overall trend of growth.

just like call me dave all the tory boys on here have no answer to

the question of why dc and osborne didt want to bail out teh banks?

come on tory boys?

You tory half-wits So if you think GB is an idiot, you are a Tory half wit?

Only tory boys would regard Brown as an idiot while looking through rose tinted spectacles at their "finest" politicians.

It's a black and white world in the desperate Labour camp. Oops, I said black and white, does that make me a bigot?

Well I'd put you down as a bnp voter then. 😉

GB's constant "The Tories and Lib Dems will steel your Tax Credits" line really got on my tits last night.

Neither were saying that, they were just saying why should someone on a high incomes even qualify to Tax Credits in the first place.

Sorry but if you believe that Gordon Brown created the financial crisis than you're an idiot.

Also, everyone should read this article Junkyard posted the other day

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/7733794.stm

Mind you it will probably be too much effort for those who get their information from reading the tabloid headlines in the supermarket.

Here's a little graph for you

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economy. GB was then the luckiest chancellor in history by living in a time of unprecedented growth and stability so all his little plans and schemes and tinkering and spending could go pretty much unnoticed. Then, when things did start to go a bit pear shaped, we suddenly discover that we are in a pretty dire position.

I pretty much agree with this but I still think the Tories plans of not bailing out the banks and drastically cutting back spending as soon as possible would have made things much much worse. And still could if they cut spending while trying to offer tax cuts (to the rich and richer) stalling the growth of the country out of recession.

Although it would appear the GB clearly has made alot of mistakes listening to him last night I still think he has the best plans to get the country out of recession with the least pain involved for everyone in the country.

Yes im sure the tories economic plans will also see the economy growing again and will make sure our credit rating is safe but they wont care what pain they'll have to put the country through to achieve this.

GB's constant "The Tories and Lib Dems will steel your Tax Credits" line really got on my tits last night.

And DC's "Job Tax". No it's not, you twunt.

Because Labour did?

StottChegg and Fatboyslo make valid points. I think at present I may vote purely based on one of the two main parties (and the BNP) not getting in.

3 party politics would be interesting and I don't believe they would be any worse than any of the previous lot.

Oh and the Labour supporters on here do seem to be getting very aggressive towards the other parties. It's interesting because it's the same vibe I'm getting from Brown.

scu98rkr...and the country is not feeling pain now??

Fact is wreckless borrowing is and has always been Labours way. Granted our infrastructure is better under Labour, but at what cost?

I would love to employ people in my house to cook, clean, wash, nanny etc in fact all the jobs I cant always do. But I cant, because i cant afford to employ all those people.

Same goes for the country. We cant afford to employ all these people in our public sector. We cant afford to build new schools and hospitals forevermore. It is out of control and needs to stop before we can make real progress. These choices were GB's and Labours no one elses. The worldwide economic crisis has not only given Labour an excuse, but has helped it snowball massively.

Last post from me on this. Blue for me.

I don't understand why you are all getting so wound up about if GB will still be PM after the 6th. Everyone can see his talent is to know what to do under pressure, who but him could handle public sector pensions, PFI costs, the national debt and to top it saving the banks. The man is a hero a political hero for a generation to come. Can't think of a bad move he has made. Apart from a recent visit to Rochdale and scraping a helicopter budget way back.

Here's a little graph for you

Best to use up-to-date figures. Here's another little graph for you, which may illustrate the problem somewhat better:

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Spot the trend?

At the time the economy was actually doing OK, but there was a deadly mixture of sleazy politicians and internecine warfare over Europe.

1997 is also just after the turnaround of a crime wave that started in 1981. It has fallen every year since and is now at a 30 year low. Anyone ready for the next Tory crime wave?

(there was no war in Europe in 1997. Bosnian War ended in 1995)