[Closed] Oi! Binners! What have you started...!

Slightly off topic... Bimsy, I'll phone the pub right now to order the post BMX pies for next Monday.

Carry on.

Fidel Gastro?

Thanks for that. Is there a term for a keyboard which is full of tea?

Teaboard? 🙂

Although, having said that, it might not actually be tea. You'd need to get it checked and verified by the STW food police.

Milk? Sugar? What sort of receptacle was it in ? Were the leaves hand picked on the north facing slopes above 800 feet elevation by certified virgins ?

Fidel Gastro?

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Fidel Gastro very good 😆

Phoned the pub and the landlord said without any prompting “Right then, I’ll get the pies in.”

He knows us too well.

Our reputation goes before us. Crisis averted! 😀

*phones pub and instructs landlord to serve pies with pastry lids only* 😈

Vive la Resistance! Mwaaaaahhhaaaahhhaaaa!

Just to go back a few steps, surely 'Cottage', 'Shepherds' and 'Fish' are worthy of [u]honorary[/u] pie status? They have been around as pies for much longer than the casserole with hat phenomenon.

[url= http://www.thepoke.co.uk/2016/03/09/martial-law-declared-uk-casserole-pastry-lid-passed-pie/ ]It's spreading! Where will the madness end?[/url]

Someone earlier ruined the idea of pie. They mentioned serving pie with 'butter beans'! Butter beans for crissakes!

Butter beans have their place - but that place is nowhere near an honest pie.

'Tis better to have a pie with a proper (shortcrust pastry) lid than a pie with a soggy bottom.

The look of wonder and delight on my hubby's face when the chippy in Hawes brought out his meat pie, chips, gravy and baked beans*, to see that it was home made and not just a 'Hollands' style, will stay in my memory for many years.

* it should be peas with a pie lad not beans.

to see that it was home made and not just a 'Hollands' style

Careful, you were one step away from Artisan there and you know what that means...

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Known as arseless pies in this house.

If it's a supermarket meat pie, that's probably inaccurate.

I'm about to have steak pie, chips, peas and gravy.

A proper pie! Encased in pastry 🙂

Happy British pie week you lot!

I wonder if you could combine that into a pie in it's own right, like DrP/J(?) did with his breakfast pie? Pastry case, your meatiness, chips on top, mushy peas on that, drown the lot in gravy and then whack the lid on.

Steak pie, chips, peas and gravy pie!

Make it happen.

Can someone make that happen please?

EDIT: Spooky same-words-endorsement-post.

It is almost as if giving you a set of stepladders has established some sort of telepathic link.

...and you can stop doing that or you will crack a rib.

*puts down sexladders*

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Presumably that's what you need to get it up?

Something else has just occurred to me.

I think you'll find that YOU are the southerner in this particular debate.

I believe we need to apply an Inverse Square Law here.

Your authority to pass judgement on pies is inversely proportional to the square of the number of miles you are from Wigan. So if you're in the Shetland Islands you can sod right off, and if you're in Cornwall then come back with a pastie.

It's kinda related to ?.r^2, the formula for calculating the area of a pie crust.

Pi r [b]not[/b] squared.
Pi r round.
Steak Bake r squared

Too bloody confusing all this to-ing and fro-ing with "what is & what isn't/doesn't" constitute a Pie, even geographical location and ladders have entered the conversation.

I had Thai Pie

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Chicken & gravy pie with peppered & buttered sprouts the bit missing was the wife's.

Oh & 23 miles from Wigan

That's a confusing pie. I want to mock it, but not as much as I want to try it.

Your wife's bits are missing from the pie?

Here's a sucker punch from north of the border, Tunnocks (of the famous Caramel Wafers, Teacakes etc.) also do steak pies, beautiful meat fully encased in shortcrust pastry but only available from the Tunnocks shop on the Main St. in Uddingston. You cannot even begin to imagine how good they are. Haha.

Harry_the_Spider - Member
More people with reserved seats on The Sun Ship.

• Customer Service “Advisors” that have to read from a script.
• “Facilitators”, whatever they are.
• Anyone who says “Colleague Announcement” or “Partner Announcement” over a public address system.
• Companies with a recorded message that states “Your business is important to us, please hold”. If it was that important you would have enough people to answer the phone.

Off you go. Pack your Factor 50

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Seems a bit harsh to include Macauley Culkin on the passenger list for the sunbound space missile. Whilst his crimes are indeed many and varied, I'm pretty sure he isn't guilty of any of the misdemeanours listed and I've yet to see him express any concrete opinions on the whole pie question..

bearnecessities - Member

That's a confusing pie. I want to mock it, but not as much as I want to try it.

No it was just badly described by me!
Its a Chicken & gravy pie. The sprouts are just added in the space where my wife's portion was, not her bits Cougar 😮

Simple steak and Guinness pie for me tonight, and by pie I obviously mean entirely encased in short crust pastry.
I had it with chips, for dipping in the extra gravy. Chips that were delivered as potatoes this morning, not tipped out of a bag from the freezer.

I'm Southern, but I think I've got this right.

Currently in Qatar (no pies for a hundreds of miles) - thank you boys for reminding me of home! And a thread full of smiles and laughs..

I've yet to see him express any concrete opinions on the whole pie question..

funkrodent - no offence but it's attitudes like yours that encourage the dim witted to continue along their path of crimes against bakery products.

There is no "whole pie question".

Pastry lid AND case = Pie.

Anything else = inferior foodstuffs.

Mmmm. Whole Pie...

Oh and for the record - binners picture of the " pie with the sides missing" is I believe a section which has been hewn from larger pie which WILL of course have had a pastry case...... Because it's a pie.

Seems a bit harsh to include Macauley Culkin on the passenger list for the sunbound space missile.

He asked Father Christmas for a "Gravel Bike". He got a one way trip into the heart of our nearest star.

Can we add people who use the term Life Hack to the guest list on the SunShip™? They can sit next to those who are confused about the meaning of pie.

Looks like Binners has written in to Viz

[url= http://viz.co.uk/monks-and-pies/ ]Link[/url]

It occurs to me that all the lid-only haters are protesting too much.
They secretly yearn to sample the wider pie experiences the world has to offer but they feel restricted by their macho northern culture.

Guys - it's OK to be Pie-curious. 🙂 No one is judging you.

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I am Pie-Curious.

I'd eat it, but don't ask me to call it pie.

I am Pie-Curious.

I'd eat it, but don't ask me to call it pie.

However being the wrong side of 50 and dragged up in Shropshire I can honestly say that the Toupee Pie is a newish imposter (never saw the like back then).

I remember the first time I witnessed one of these and the feeling of total disappointment, betrayal! I'd been lied to, duped into thinking I was going to get a proper pie. (where's my ****in pastry!!)

I blame the health conscious brigade trying to healthy-up the pie by removing 70% of the pastry.

But why bother when you're gonna have it with proper chips (or buttery mash)gravy and token veg (peas, carrots whatever but not broccoli - has no place beside a pie)

We all know that the best kind of pie is a Steak Pie?

... and the best kind of steak for a pie is Scotch Beef?

Wonder what the people who promote Scotch Beef think of the whole pie issue?.....

[url= http://www.scotchbeefandlamb.com/the-perfect-steak-pie-for-new-years-day/ ]http://www.scotchbeefandlamb.com/the-perfect-steak-pie-for-new-years-day/[/url]

This is what I think of when I think Steak pie.
I've eaten a variation of this every New Years Day of my life and also at every funeral I've ever been to .
It's a Scottish thing. Our version occasionally contains beef link sausages. Yum.

perchypanther - Member

We all know that the best kind of pie is a Steak Pie?

... and the best kind of steak for a pie is Scotch Beef?

Wonder what the people who promote Scotch Beef think of the whole pie issue?.....

Common Pie-makers mistake forgetting to put the bottom pastry in the dish (probably rushing because the photographer needed to go home for a proper pie)

Or may be this is a north of the Border thing (and not wanting to stereo-type) saving a few pennies by leaving out the lower casing of pastry!!

Just for you PP....

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😆

I am a broadminded chap but there have to be limits.

Toupee Pie

Surely, a Toupie?

Just for you PP....

Nice one Fidel...

*sniff* It's getting a bit dusty in here....

Might shed a tear and moisten the freestyle puff pastry lid of my pie 🙂

So what do shepherds eat?

And what is this?

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Pastry case, but lid replaced by hot pot? But there's no pot, so what is it? What would Betty sell it as in the Rovers?

We have two butchers in Dunblane, both make excellent pies.

However, they swing both ways. Small pies = pastry surround. Large pies = pastry lid.

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And what is this?

Not pie.

But it's not pot either is it?

But it's not pot either is it?

Don't care. Not pie.

It's a Meat Pot "Pie" ^^^^

So what do shepherds eat?

I think we can make an exception to names of pies that aren't defined by their ingredients. That is to say, a pork pie is a pie with pork in it. A shepherd's pie does not contain shepherds, and similarly a cottage pie generally does not contain cottages.

Ie, "shepherd's pie" is the full name of a dish that is not actually a pie, in the same way that an Eccles cake is not actually a cake. See also, beef wellington.

I think we can make an exception to names of pies that aren't defined by their ingredients. That is to say, a pork pie is a pie with pork in it. A shepherd's pie does not contain shepherds, and similarly a cottage pie generally does not contain cottages.

Ie, "shepherd's pie" is the full name of a dish that is not actually a pie, in the same way that an Eccles cake is not actually a cake.

I think you've just hit the nail on the head...Well done that Man

Thank God (Cougar) that one's cleared up

lid replaced by hot pot? But there's no pot, so what is it?

It's named after the dish it's cooked in, clearly. See also "chicken balti," what you have in front of you isn't a balti, that's the name of the metal bowl it's cooked in.

A shepherd's pie does not contain shepherds

You have never been to Trecastle have you Cougar 😆 flock attendants vanish with alarming regularity

And what is this?

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in the same way that an Eccles cake is not actually a cake

or full of bits of Eccles.

Eccles is a concrete sh1thole and probably not very tasty at all.

[i] It is a controversial decision, likely to cause consternation among pie and pasty connoisseurs the length and breadth of the country, even prompting talk of a boycott.

But a pasty has won the coveted top prize at this year’s British Pie Awards for the first time, beating 815 other entries to take home the title of Supreme Champion. [/i]

[url= http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/howaboutthat/12191345/Controversy-as-a-pasty-triumphs-at-the-British-Pie-Awards.html?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter ]http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/howaboutthat/12191345/Controversy-as-a-pasty-triumphs-at-the-British-Pie-Awards.html?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter[/url]

I think the main issue that raises is how the hell do I get myself on the judging panel at the British Pie Awards?

Just been in M&S and they have miniature pork pies with semi-integrated branston!
Genius.

See also, beef wellington

Actually, Cougar has introduced a whole new paradox. Beef Wellington, meaty content, completely surrounded by pastry, that has absolutely no intentions of being called a pie. I recognise the puff pastry may disqualify it but I wonder whether the Duke himself thought he was inventing a dinner for pretentious 1980s southerners, or a portable alternative to the Earl of Sandwich's meagre efforts?

If you study The Laws Of Pie (1816 Edition) it specifically states that anybody who [b][i]"gives The French a proper hiding"[/i][/b] is allowed to do whatever the **** they like.

Wellington wanted to name rubber boots and pastry based products after himself, have a nice big house at the corner of Hyde Park where he could park his horse and be Prime Minister for a bit.

Beef Wellington is just an oversized sausage roll, with beef instead of 'pork'.

Cultural appropriation of working class Northern socialist foodstuffs by Anglo Irish warmonger, innit?

We MIGHT need a support group.
I'll apply for a grant, I'll have to pop down to Oddies for some research.
Mmmmmm, research.

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In the interests of ensuring that this discussion is fully inclusive of all the pies, I can't help but wonder where and how hairy pie fits into the picture?
In my experience it only occasionally has a crust, and whilst the exact contents can be difficult to pin down, as often as not fish seems to be the primary ingredient.
Perhaps one of the resident experts could enlighten me..

I'm lost now. So is a sausage roll a pie? Surely not as it has open ends, but I could almost buy the beef wellington pie idea.

Surely some element of gravy/sauce is required for a pie.

An open end might disqualify the hairy pie on the same grounds as sausage roll though...

Hairy pie is becoming incredibly scarce these days, if monthly pie-review periodicals are to be believed. And we're back to 'it's not really a pie if it's just decorated filling.'

Look, it's quite simple.

A pie is encased in pastry.
A pasty is a pie appropriated by our culturally oppressed, linguistically challenged brethren in the south west.

A shepherds pie is a pie in the same way a pair of shoes without heels are mules.

'Hair pie' (or 'clam pasty'):
Although rapidly being replaced by the badly packed kebab, it remains a nostalgic taste of childhood for those who's formative years were spent at an all girls boarding school.

Stop it with the stewpées.
You're fooling no-one.
You can lead a horse to water, but a pencil must be lead.

So think on.

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I'm lost now. So is a sausage roll a pie? Surely not as it has open ends,

A shepherds pie is a pie in the same way a pair of shoes without heels are mules.

A sausage roll is a pie in the same way that sandals are shoes. I want a pie I can eat with my socks on.

Whereas Hairy Pie is usually consumed with your socks off.

Whereas Hairy Pie is usually consumed with your socks off.

Not in the foreign language documentaries about household good repairs I have seen.

After a long ride.. a leisurely lunch..

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No body has mentioned TART.

Can we add people who use the term Life Hack to the guest list on the SunShip™? They can sit next to those who are confused about the meaning of pie.

No body has mentioned TART.