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[url= http://www.thepoke.co.uk/2016/03/09/martial-law-declared-uk-casserole-pastry-lid-passed-pie/ ]Casserole Pies![/url]
[url= http://www.telegraph.co.uk/food-and-drink/features/when-is-a-pie-not-a-pie-foods-greatest-debate/ ]Traction[/url]
“Potato-topped pies aren’t pies,” says O’Callaghan firmly. The awards were set up for similar reasons to the petition – to celebrate and distinguish [b]artisan[/b] British efforts like the pork pie from ‘"pastry-topped casseroles" and to "rescue" the word pie from what [b]purists[/b] consider to be decades, nay centuries, of misuse.
Anyone who uses the words [b]artisan[/b] and[b] purists[/b] in the same sentence has immediately lost the argument.
Try and tell Desperate Dan that his Aunt Aggie's cow pie, baked in an open dish with a lid of pastry isn't actually a pie.
He'd declare thee a "varmint" and he'd be right.
Edit: @Binners - VARMINT! 😉
Don't worry PP. Once I'm in charge (not long now), anyone using the word 'Artisan' when referring to food, or 'craft' when referring to beer, will be joining the pie toppers with their backs against the wall
Damn straight a pie is pastry all around, not some effete effort of puffy pastry lying atop of lumpy soup. Put all the horns on it you like if Aunt Agggie's pie hasn't got pastry on the top, the bottom and sides it isn't a pie.
Be assured that when we're all toiling under the yoke of oppression in the Democratic Peoples Republic of Colouring-in, there'll be an active underground resistance movement, wearing trench coats and eating ashet pies * in basements.
The shadowy figure of chaos at the head of this geurrilla movement is known only by a code name "PP". 😉
Collaborators with our "Artisan Purist" overlords will be dealt with harshly. No pudding.
Just sayin.
*Not anything with potato on it though. That's just weird. 😯
Perchypie?????
Perchypie?????
No Pudding, Varmint. 😀
Local Pub has Pie Night - went the other week - lovely Steak Pie but with only a Pastry top!!! Does this mean it's a "Partial Pie Night" or a perhaps a "Not Quite a Pie Night"
TBH although I like a proper pie (pastry encased) the pastry top "Part Pie" is obvs the healthy option and avoids heart burn (the older I get the less I can eat pastry 🙁
People who should be fired into the sun:-
Anyone claiming to be an “Artisan” who does not have sawdust in his/her beard.
Anyone with a stall at a “Farmer’s Market” who does not own a farm.
Anyone who uses the term “Workshop” without reference to a lathe or welding equipment.
Anyone who claims that a puff pastry “lid” perched on top of some stew is pie.
Off you go.
Try and tell Desperate Dan that his Aunt Aggie's cow pie, baked in an open dish with a lid of pastry isn't actually a pie.
With respect, I don't think we can hold up The Dandy as a canonical source of factual information. You'll be quoting the Daily Mail as a reference next.
If this had been raised during the devolution debate the result could have been so different.
I think you will find the Dandy is way more superior to the Mail, contains far more factual information. Korky the Cat has more integrity than the entire journalistic staff of the Mail combined FACT.
With respect, I don't think we can hold up The Dandy as a canonical source of factual information. You'll be quoting the Daily Mail as a reference next.
Why not? It's a well respected publication with a long history of serious and informative investigative journalism. Much more so than the Daily Mail. 🙂
That great bastion of MCWCB's , Markies food hall is also in on the act...
The only thing more disappointing than cutting into a 'pie' only to find no pastry under the lid, is being served one of those puff pasty topped abominations. It's not a f***** pie, you've not [i]made[/i] a pie there, you've served me a bowl of casserole with a pastry crouton. You have the [i]make[/i] a pie, not just fekin serve some of the ingredients together.
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Got this for christmas, on the plus side makes alright pies fairly quickly, on the downside any sort of filling is minimal, so you need to eat 2-3 to get a decent amount of steak.
+ more pie
- heartburn
People who should be fired into the sun:-Anyone claiming to be an “Artisan” who does not have sawdust in his/her beard.
Anyone with a stall at a “Farmer’s Market” who does not own a farm.
Anyone who uses the term “Workshop” without reference to a lathe or welding equipment.
Anyone who claims that a puff pastry “lid” perched on top of some stew is pie.
Can we add 'Curated' for anything other than a museum Curator's activities too please, thanks.
Pasties FTW too 😉
'Artisan'
Always serves as a warning to avoid, I believe. Would The Binners kindly add it to his List.
Ooh yes please. Faux artisans and curators up against the wall please.
Technically they are true "pies", but the butchers In Kilmacolm, does the best steak pies. Haven't had one for a few years now though.
[url= http://www.blackwoodofkilmacolm.co.uk/steak-pie--serves-34-48-p.asp ]http://www.blackwoodofkilmacolm.co.uk/steak-pie--serves-34-48-p.asp[/url]
No way it feeds 3 - 4!
Yir Maw
More people with reserved seats on The Sun Ship.
• Customer Service “Advisors” that have to read from a script.
• “Facilitators”, whatever they are.
• Anyone who says “Colleague Announcement” or “Partner Announcement” over a public address system.
• Companies with a recorded message that states “Your business is important to us, please hold”. If it was that important you would have enough people to answer the phone.
Off you go. Pack your Factor 50.
More people with reserved seats on The Sun Ship.
When the cleaners are in at work, they put a sign on the door, "toilets being cleaned by female operative." Whoever wrote that is Golgafrinchan B-Ark material for sure.
I'm with you comrade. Using the words colleague, partner, or even worse ... stakeholder, when what they really mean is drone or serf, should be punished by being fired into the sun! But only after being forced, Clockwork Orange style, to watch every Adam Sandler film, back to back, twice.
Overseas with work a while back; the canteen had "beef pie" and "spaghetti bolognese" on the menu one day. It turns out it was the same beef-and-things-in-sauce, just one came with spaghetti and the other came with a little square of some funny pastry plonked on top. I don't think I've ever seen a looser fit to the word "pie"...
That ^^ is obviously not a Pie....You don't put a Pie on a plate with Roast spuds
HAS TO BE MASH OR CHIPS (PROPER CHIPS)------IT'S THE LAW!!!
AND BROCCOLI--- WTF --NOT WITH A PIE
Hairy pie?
Went out of fashion in the 80s, I believe.
Shepherd pie, cottage pie, fish pie.
Surely the definition is a filling with a lid that is cooked [u]in place[/u]?
*runs away*
As this picture of the legendary Cow Pie at the George Hotel in Keswick clearly shows, its pie, chips and gravy that are the essential ingredients. The other bits are just added as a sort of garnish, to add a splash of colour. And you wouldn't eat them as that will fill valuable tummy space that could instead be filled with more pie
Are they... frozen chips?
😯
That pie seems to be lacking crust on the near side, too. Not a pie at all, really.
I have nothing to add other than STW pie/not pie threads never fail to make me laugh out loud. Having read a few, I now regularly embarrass my wife and kids by brandishing the menu and haranguing a member of staff to wheel the chef out. At which point I challenge that individual to answer the all important question 'is this a PROPER pie or a stew with a hat?'
If you went into the George and stated that their Cow Pie isn't actually a pie at all, I doubt you'd make it out alive. It is the Mecca for aficionado's of the crust. And that is heresy!
Stand it on its edge and it's stew with a hat.
You'd probably end up in a pie.
Binski, The Pack Horse in Affetside used to be a bastion of pie. Not been for a while, but it used to be ace. You need to check it out and report back.
As this picture of the legendary Cow Pie at the George Hotel in Keswick clearly shows, its pie, chips and gravy that are the essential ingredients. The other bits are just added as a sort of garnish, to add a splash of colour. And you wouldn't eat them as that will fill valuable tummy space that could instead be filled with more pie
Broccoli again...Must be a northern thing....Peas...could get away with peas at a push!!
As this picture of the legendary Cow Pie at the George Hotel in Keswick clearly shows
...there's nae pastry roon the edges.
Which is perfectly OK in my book.
Looks like a fine pie to me.
This is clearly a portion of pie cut from a larger dish. My question to Binners would be this.
If you get a portion of that particular pie cut out of the middle of the large dish, with no "finished edges" is it still a pie?















