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Good for you. Have spent a few hours over this weekend doing sums to see just when I might be able to tell my employer to **** off, but the earliest is next summer.

Tesco delivery driving has been recommended to me by a mate who is using it to tide him over.


 
Posted : 28/08/2023 5:03 pm
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Leaving my old toxic job was the best decision I ever made, not least because it was making me poorly.


 
Posted : 28/08/2023 5:06 pm
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Well done OP, you've got the right attitude and things'll work out much better in the medium term I'm sure.


 
Posted : 29/08/2023 9:37 am
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Well, that was a strangely anti climactic day. Spoke to my manager this morning and told him I was resigning and all he could say was 'thank you for letting me know'. After that it wasn't mentioned for the whole day. There is a senior management team meeting tomorrow where I'm sure I'll be on the agenda, but its all been very quiet. Thought it was a bit weird that HR apparently didn't know I was leaving when I gave them a nudge this afternoon about things I won't need to do now I'm going. No doubt me doing that will upset somebody on the management team so there are still hopes for a stand up row taking place.

I'm intending to be professional and work my notice period but it is rather hard to give a damn, especially as I'm now trying to arrange interviews nearly 300 miles away. First sign of hassle I'll play my 'outraged of Devon' card and flounce out. Never flounced out of a job before so it might be fun to try; I'll call it my mid life crisis.

Told my landlady and her husband and they'll be sad to see me go. Somebody at least will miss me.


 
Posted : 29/08/2023 7:15 pm
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Congratulations. It's a liberating feeling, especially if it's been affecting your mental health.

The only time i've had a similar situation it seems my resignation letter caused a bit of a stir.
The arsewipe boss that I resigned to had broken so many rules that on my final day we all discovered it was his final day too.


 
Posted : 30/08/2023 3:54 am
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It's liberating... Well done. Breathe the fresh air.

Don't worry about what's behind in any meetings, it's over.

There's something beautiful about drawing a metaphorical or psychological line under something if it was making you unhappy.

It's hard and uncertain but it's so nice to get out of a toxic box that it sounds like you were in.


 
Posted : 30/08/2023 4:54 am
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I handed my notice in at a toxic company 2 weeks ago tomorrow, and I have 2 weeks from tomorrow until exit day. It's a great feeling!

What I've learned from being a so called "job hopper" (12-18 months usually) is the grass is never greener, it's just a different type of grass. You can work for a company for 6 months and love it there, then all of a sudden there is a reshuffle at the top, a bunch of lay offs and a restructuring announcement and suddenly everything's gone to pot, staff are stressed, change has been handled poorly and there is questions everyone is asking which no one has the answer to and all of a sudden it's like the entire vibe of the office changes and everyone's throwing each other under the bus.

Othertimes the staff and culture can be great but the type of work sucks, othertimes the management are great but the staff are inept and untrained, sometimes it can be a perfect company until a domino falls at the top and new people come in with new ideas, or maybe the companys won a new contract which is huge and as a result have doubled the workforce in 12 months and as a result, the new staff massively change the culture.

Only stick out job roles if there is something in it for you and it's working for you, otherwise if the cons outweigh the pros that's when I've updated the CV and got job hunting for new opportunities.


 
Posted : 30/08/2023 9:23 am
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othertimes the management are great but the staff are inept and untrained

Inept and untrained staff are a sign of quite poor management with no idea of whom to employ. Personally the managers may be great but failing to ensure the staff have the necessary skills and abilities shows that they aren't all that good professionally.


 
Posted : 30/08/2023 10:40 am
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Inept and untrained staff are a sign of quite poor management with no idea of whom to employ. Personally the managers may be great but failing to ensure the staff have the necessary skills and abilities shows that they aren’t all that good professionally.

Oi! stop dissing the good ol' british tradition of "it's not what you know but who you know!" 😉


 
Posted : 30/08/2023 10:45 am
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@Sandwich I can only back that up with what I've experienced first hand in my field, you can give IT Engineers a step by step documented knowledgebase guide on how to perform a certain task. Some will use it a few times then follow by memory out of these a few will make mistakes by doing this others never will, some will not even need it and have good technical aptitude and initiative, some will use it every single time but have no issues, some will always miss one of steps and cause more problems and then some others will forget where they've saved it, forget there is a search function to find it using keywords listed in the ticket, and then when they've been given it again after asking for the 9th time, still fail to follow it step by step and make a mistake.

Usually this is caused by hiring managers not screening potential employees properly but the same ethos applies, a manger who is fantastic at looking after the team may not be great at screening candidates, all part of the fun I guess


 
Posted : 30/08/2023 1:21 pm
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Usually this is caused by hiring managers

As an aside, everyone thinks they are great at hiring (inc me), but they're not.


 
Posted : 30/08/2023 4:12 pm
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This has turned into quite an inspirational thread. Well done and good luck OP.


 
Posted : 30/08/2023 5:03 pm
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This has turned into quite an inspirational thread. Well done and good luck OP.

It has indeed.

Got me thinking I might just hand my notice in as I'm sick of a the bull****.


 
Posted : 30/08/2023 5:05 pm
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This has turned into quite an inspirational thread. Well done and good luck OP.

Glad to have been of service. There have been some really good posts on here.

The news of my upcoming departure has finally been sent out to the rest of the department. Some of them seem genuinely sad so see me go. I do try and support the people I manage and had some nice messages from some of them.  It does seem that my soon to be ex boss turned the announcement into a "If you aren't happy in your job you can go" sort of speech. I'm working from home today and tomorrow so missed the full horror of his attempt to rally the troops. I'm lucky in the fact I have an escape route and I'm not trapped in the job like some of them, so I do feel for the decent ones I'm leaving behind. That said, the scheming over who will go for the job I'm vacating has already started, so I know I'm best of out of it.

It does look like I'll be working my full notice period so I can look forward to several weeks of being micromanaged by a boss who no longer trusts me. Joy.

Don't have anything else lined up just yet but the folks at Tesco seemed nice enough if a bit disorganised (I was interviewed in the store room behind the fag and vape counter) when I went for an interview last night. They will let me know at some point. I get them impression they have a high turnover. Still got some applications out for other jobs. Something will turn up.

Right now I'm just looking forward to getting through tomorrow then riding my bike at the weekend. Sometimes its the little things that matter in life.


 
Posted : 31/08/2023 10:13 pm
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Nice one. Enjoy the weekend, and embrace Devon.


 
Posted : 31/08/2023 10:23 pm
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Evening all, I thought an update was in order. I'm now back in Devon; Tesco did offer me a job but another job in my chosen industry came up. I've had to take a step or two back down the ladder and move from a management position to a supervisory one, but to be honest I was always happiest at that level. Just because you can climb the ladder doesn't mean you always should. I started my new job on Monday and I'm working for an ex-colleague. I have a number of jaded fellow supervisors to win over and 130 staff to get to know/ annoy/ support but I'm looking forward to it. Plus I'm back in a pair of steel toes and high viz with a promise of a play on the forklift if we get short of yard staff. The whole office is slightly stunned that I've announced I'll spending most of next week working as a loader so I can get to know the crews, but you can't lead if you can't prove that you can do.

The final day at my toxic job was last Wednesday and after finishing off some projects I had started I was happy to walk out without a backwards glance.

It has been a very weird year, and as somebody who has always just sort of drifted through life up until now I can't help but be amused that for the first time in my life, when I've actually made a very sincere and carefully thought out plan it has taken me back to square one. I'll be sticking to aimlessly drifting in future. I certainly have no complaints over how things have worked out.


 
Posted : 04/10/2023 9:58 pm
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Great news.

I'm struggling a bit. My colleagues and line management is good - like all jobs it has its moments when you want to kill them all but I love the work really, I love being in the area I'm in, back with scientists, and I love the positive impacts our work has. So what's the issue?

The owner is just toxic. Although they are pretty hands off, their values are totally at odds to what I believe in and any time they come visiting I have to make sure I'm elsewhere or I might just go crackers at them.

There's pretty good intelligence that there will be a change in ownership in a year or so - not guaranteed but highly likely, to owners I think I am much more aligned with. I just have to avoid thinking too deeply about it in the meantime.


 
Posted : 04/10/2023 10:18 pm
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Good for you, Big-Dave


 
Posted : 04/10/2023 10:37 pm
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Good stuff, glad your back somewhere happy.


 
Posted : 04/10/2023 11:24 pm
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What a great informative thread, with a positive ending.


 
Posted : 05/10/2023 11:11 am
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We just need to make sure @theotherjonv sticks it out until the asshat company owner moves on...


 
Posted : 05/10/2023 6:02 pm
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their values are totally at odds to what I believe in and any time they come visiting I have to make sure I’m elsewhere or I might just go crackers at them.
There’s pretty good intelligence that there will be a change in ownership in a year or so – not guaranteed but highly likely, to owners I think I am much more aligned with. I just have to avoid thinking too deeply about it in the meantime.

Always worth looking for a company whose values match yours, over and above some other things.  This can make you a lot happier at work.  <br /><br />
your situation is different but similar to mine, the company is in a period of change and I continue to be sidelined / get no attention or direction and it’s affecting me badly.   Yesterday I struggled to perform basic duties because of the worst lack of motivation I’ve ever had in my life.   Becuase I’ve done the job I was asked to do and launched, sold, and upskilled everyone in a new product I feel I can’t really talk to my manager becuase I’m basically telling him I’m now redundant.    I don’t think working from home helps, I need to be “involved” with people.   I have to wait until January for an outcome / new start to company direction and where I fit in, but the next few months of dragging my heels feels as though it’ll be unbearable.


 
Posted : 06/10/2023 8:57 am
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Really glad this had a pretty good ending


 
Posted : 06/10/2023 9:21 am
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Thanks for the comments on my post. It's accurate but also slightly tongue in cheek - I've never hidden who i work for but I'm not going to spell it out here either.

Maybe MCTD might be thinking similar.


 
Posted : 06/10/2023 10:02 am
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@Big-Dave

I wish you all the best for your future & massive respect for you not joining in with a toxic management culture.

The last 17 months since redundancy gave me the freedom to do what the hell I wanted to has been utter bliss.

I've had many offers from my former industry begging me to manage sites. But the ability to tell them where they have gone wrong & ignored the people that made them the money has had an almost Zen like effect on my wellbeing.

I'm one of the lucky ones (work wise) & I really feel for any of you trapped in the wage slave situation.


 
Posted : 09/10/2023 5:40 pm
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