I feel sorry for all you drones that have to wear suits to work. That must be totally rubbish. I've never really got the "we must dress up to impress clients" .. personally I view people wearing suits as trying too hard and I tend to distrust them. Smart casual generally comes across much better in my line of work.For a number of years I was a manager at a fintech firm and I wore jeans and t-shirt every day (apart from the very occasional once a quarter "dress up" day where corporate overlords would turn up and lecture us all about strategies, silos and synergies). Wearing a suit was pretty amusing on those days, but screw doing that daily.
I now work as a developer and wear ... jeans and t-shirt (or maybe long sleeve depending on how I'm feeling). It drives my wife nuts as my home and work "wardrobe" are the same wardrobe.
Swoon, you are such a rebel.
I'm not sure how wearing a suit to work means you are a drone. I quite like wearing nice smart clothes for work. I have plenty of time outside work to wear casual clothes.
I also read an article about a US company where the company instituted similar policies for hours and holidays; basically do your jobs, don't let the company or your colleagues down, and if that means you can take the odd half day here and there, then do so. No-one was counting how many you took, just measuring you on what you did.
Off on a tangent, but this is becoming a "thing" in this country too - tear up the leave entitlement cards and let people have as much holiday as they want. Interestingly, and perhaps counter-intuitively, the evidence I've seen is that when there's no limit, people take less leave than they did when they had a defined amount and a deadline to "use it or lose it" at the end of the year.
[quote=edlong ]I also read an article about a US company where the company instituted similar policies for hours and holidays; basically do your jobs, don't let the company or your colleagues down, and if that means you can take the odd half day here and there, then do so. No-one was counting how many you took, just measuring you on what you did.
Off on a tangent, but this is becoming a "thing" in this country too - tear up the leave entitlement cards and let people have as much holiday as they want. Interestingly, and perhaps counter-intuitively, the evidence I've seen is that when there's no limit, people take less leave than they did when they had a defined amount and a deadline to "use it or lose it" at the end of the year.
It's quite big with startups. I think that they have a word if they don't like how much you're taking though (which for a mate working for a US company was actually not as much as UK legal minimum). I guess it's a bigger deal in the states as they don't get much holiday whereas here we, comparatively, get quite a lot by law. I think that I've seen that same evidence too, guess people don't want to feel like they're taking the piss.
As for dress code I've never really had one anywhere I've worked but that just means that most people wear similar stuff (jeans etc...) anyway so not exactly bucking the system.
Off on a tangent, but this is becoming a "thing" in this country too - tear up the leave entitlement cards and let people have as much holiday as they want. Interestingly, and perhaps counter-intuitively, the evidence I've seen is that when there's no limit, people take less leave than they did when they had a defined amount and a deadline to "use it or lose it" at the end of the year.
Indeed, it just raises the ante on showing how many hours/days you put in. Not a great development.
My work doesn't have a dress code, reasonably smart is expected, but never formally communicated. I'm visiting customers sites most days, tie not really practical or safe. In the office I don't see customers, or generally senior management. So I usually wear an oxford shirt and denim or black jeans with boots or shoes for both, does the job.
T shirt and jumper if it's cold, sometimes a polo or t shirt, in or out of the office, weather dependent. Very occasionally trainers if I have a full day at the PC screen and need to be comfy. Manager seems happy, when required I dress up smart.
But, one older guy (same level) looks down his nose at us younger non tie wearers, always wears one, thinks he's smart. His shirts are usually pastel shades, thread bare on the collar, paisley pattern or similarly shite old tie, flannel trousers that are too short, fly often undone, tie often tucked into waistband. Shoes scruffy and naff. I'm pretty sure that on 9 out of 10 days I'd get the vote for being 'smarter' even in jeans.
Weird thing is, it's a big organisation, with hugely varying jobs, we're generally all qualified professionals in our team, but we operate differently to most departments. When I'm in the main office I see a lot of people strutting around in shirt and tie, s****y shoes etc, basically giving it the big un, and not to be a ****, but you generally find out later they're fairly near the bottom of the structure. They also look at us like animals for daring to wear what's practical.
also read an article about a US company where the company instituted similar policies for hours and holidays; basically do your jobs, don't let the company or your colleagues down, and if that means you can take the odd half day here and there, then do so. No-one was counting how many you took, just measuring you on what you did.
Netflix was one of the bigger ones to introduce this.
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working in a kitchen environment , the dress code is very strict but I dont have to pay for it and all chef jackets and trousers get dry cleaned for me . I can also wear cycling clothes for the commute .
ninfan - Member
...I think this has to be the future for the male of the species:
Mmm, I wonder if they make a thermal one.
That could be my dress code for the'Puffer....
I think ours is "you must wear clothes"
