I shall start with Recruitment Agents.
95% effing useless.
Bike Mechanics
TBF, any job title that ends with 'agent' has to be a strong contender.
'cept maybe 'secret'.
Well, I was going to come on to Estate and Letting Agents.
IT
Nah Even the 'secret' ones can apparently lock themselves in holdalls and suffocate...
Anyone claiming to be an office or building "Manager" gets a vote from me, how hard is it to order enough milk and set the thermostat?
Definitely estate agents
Marketing
H.R.
Politician?
Anything with "performance" in the title.
TBF, any job title that ends with 'agent' has to be a strong contender.
But what about 00...
'cept maybe 'secret'.
Dammit.
Clowns, definitely wouldn't let one wash my car
Forum posters.
I've moved this to the right forum for you.
Royal mail manager...... incompetance is a key requirement of the job!
Middle and senior management when promoted to levels of incompetence, which let's face it, is frequently.
Doubly incompetent when they have an MBA in their toolkit.
HR and Recruitment types
A lot of the lawyer/solicitor types I've dealt with
The vast majority of MoD logistics/store keeper people
IT. As in, the big companies who design and build these it systems for other big companies. If you knew what went on....
Yodel delivery drivers
Public Sector Middle Managers - and been one now I know this for a fact 🙂
Currently estate agents, surveyors and solicitors. I just want to move into my ****ing house already 😆
Weather forecasters.
How hard would it be to give us good weather every day?
?
Managers
HR
If you knew what went on....
To be honest, this applies to pretty much any large organisation, it just seems that once you get above a few hundred employees incompetence seems to exponentionally increase.
Klunk - Member
IT
Yup, from personal experience.
estate agents, conveyancers etc.
dental/doctor receptionists
Public sector local government.
Quangos
HR
Halfords
I'd say that if a recruiter is still in a job, as it's a commission based and performance driven role, he MUST be competent. He may upset you, not make you feel special and maybe not even find you a job, but he must be finding people jobs and generating fees or else he'd be sacked quick sharp.
Scotrail pricing managers
BT broadband customer service advisers
Man Utd players
TBF, any job title that ends with 'agent' has to be a strong contender.'cept maybe 'secret'.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/adamcurtis/posts/BUGGER
Being a French person. Note racist but not sexist.
Clergy of all religions... even if there is a god of some kind, none of them has provided proof, even with millenia of opportunity;
global peace and harmony is also somewhat lacking
and what about the choirboys?
In their favour, some religious organizations have done well at accumulating vast sums of money and power...
NHS administrators
University academics might just sneak in here! I was one once and many of my colleagues, though relatively competent in their own subject area, were completely useless in every other respect.
Police
Politicians
Teachers
The vast majority of MoD logistics/store keeper people
When i worked for the MoD I went to the stores on one occasion to obtain something with my requisition filled in in quintuplicate only to be told that I couldn't have what I wanted as there was only one left. But I only want one I said. Ah but if we give you it we'll have none left and were the stores.
They also used to open up the large boxes of photographic paper rolls for the mini-printers with sharp knives that would render the whole roll fogged.
A lot of managers in large organisations, who have been promoted far beyond their level of competence.
Yes, I do work for a large organisation....
Oh, and one of the delivery drivers from City Pizza.
Why teachers?
.ldboy - Member
University academics might just sneak in here! I was one once and many of my colleagues, though relatively competent in their own subject area, were completely useless in every other respect.
An amusing example:-
Man walking along a road in the countryside comes across a shepherd and a huge flock of sheep. Tells the shepherd, "I will bet you £100 against one of your sheep that I can tell you the exact number in this flock." The shepherd thinks it over; it's a big flock so he takes the bet. "965," says the man. The shepherd is astonished, because that is exactly right. Says "OK, I'm a man of my word, take an animal." Man picks one up and begins to walk away.
"Wait," cries the shepherd, "Let me have a chance to get even. Double or nothing that I can guess your exact occupation." Man says sure. "You are an economist for a government think tank," says the shepherd. "Amazing!" responds the man, "You are exactly right! But tell me, how did you deduce that?"
"Well," says the shepherd, "put down my dog and I will tell you."
Warehouse Manager at On One
[quoteA lot of managers in large organisations, who have been promoted far beyond their level of competence.
This is the [url= http://http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Principle ]Peter Principle[/url]
Cabinet Minister - how many of them have a relevant qualification?
Working in IT as a consultant I am utterly bemused at how some people get their jobs and how much money they get when they have very little knowledge or understanding of even basic principles.
Don't get me wrong there are still some people out there running their A game and it's often refreshing to work with them!
I'm also with the people saying MOD store people. Some are excellent, especially the ones that trade in biscuits, others can be a pain!
Doctors (GPS) and teachers - overpaid self serving bellends the lot of them.
Thanks for the reminder somouk.
Consultants!
Why teachers?
obviously I'm great but many are rubbish and the standard of new entrants to the profession seems to be dropping... Or maybe I've just had a bad day.
Can you lay off MoD stores people - I was the best equipped boy scout in the district!
Actually, most of my kit was US National Guard kit, for reasons that I never really understood. But I had the coolest watch EVER!
Any position at the DVLA.
Had Dante written his stories in this day and age there would have been a 10th Circle of Hell, populated entirely by vacant, obtuse, rude, incompetent, clueless, toothless, ****less, jobsworths who used to work at the DVLA. Their punishment would involve sending in yet another form C346/2, 2 passport photos and a cheque for £25 in return for a Hell ID, that never arrives and no-one has any record of receiving, despite them having posted special delivery, then repeating the process for an eternity.
Quantity Surveyors
Arghhhh now I remember some real top of range ars* ****s. Television licencing. My licence came up for renewal I was away from home told them there was no telly there. Still backdated payment eventhough they said they wouldn't. No that's not incompetent that's just lying.
Time estimate manager
Endura custom clothing
Management generally. It would help if people were given management roles because they showed an aptitude for management, rather than an aptitude for being good at their own job/playing the corporate game.
+1 for Marketing. Way too many blaggers/people who chose it as a career because they couldn't think of doing anything else and as a result have no professional pride in a job well done. Which is a shame because Marketing done well keeps customers happy and earns the shareholders a tonne of cash...
Oh and and PPI salesmen. If they were any good at selling that stuff they wouldn't have had to mis-sell it!
Top Gear presenter
I can’t believe nobody has mentioned baggage handlers 🙄
🙂
Police
Also, thieves.
Oh yeah.....
Police officers can get away with incompetence because 50% of the public are massively relieved to see them and the other 50% massively depressed so whatever they do makes them either clever saints or clever barstewards.
I'll add anybody who works in local authorities - too incompetent to get a job in industry or business.
Employees of HMRC.
Operations Managers.
Incompetent hobnobbers.
HR
The people who run Eastern Airways flight scheduling.
Fluffers. If they were any good at their job, they wouldn't be in it.
Working in IT as a consultant I am utterly bemused at how some people get their jobs and how much money they get when they have very little knowledge or understanding of even basic principles.Don't get me wrong there are still some people out there running their A game and it's often refreshing to work with them!
There's a guy who sits opposite me, I don't know if he's actually in charge of his team, but he's the sole go-to person any time there's a question on their product. All day it's "Ian, can you have a look at this?", or "Ian, how do I do this?" - the man has the patience of a saint.
Anybody who works in local authorities Globalti?!
I don't, but know a hat full who work with the disabled, the poor, the elderly etc etc for peanuts, because that's what they want to do. We should take our hats off to a fair chunk of them.
Getting a job in industry or business is what we should all aspire to? I worked in the City for a decade and saw some major incompetence there. Strange that.
The public sector.
The public sector.
It's not just the people it's the systems.
<software industry content>
Security Architects - give me a bloody answer! any answer will do... you are the architect; give me some input on the design. I know that all you are waiting to do is to look at the finished code and tell me that it is not secure in some esoteric/imagined scenario, or that it is overkill, so why don't you get involved at the start and tell me what you'll need for accreditation <breathe/>.
Testers - 95% of you are morons. Those who aren't are worth their weight in gold, but those of you who need simple concepts explaining over and over again need to be put out to pasture (and yes, I know that that was how you became a tester in the first place).
</software industry content>
Dave
People on the internet, yes I see the irony of that statement.
Anyone who works in NHS accounts payable. Jesus they're inept.
Web 'designers' & most pr agency personnel
Too many teachers
Beaurocats
Politicians
TV Presenters
Red Top 'journalists'
I could go on, and on, and on.
I'm going need to use The Great Wall of China come the revolution.
MOD stores operatives is a good shout - we deliver regularly to Navy Stores and had one guy last year refusing to accept it was his signature on the DHL POD...
otherwise, the current crop of Navy Mechanical Engineers...
. beagle - Member
Anybody who works in local authorities Globalti?!I don't, but know a hat full who work with the disabled, the poor, the elderly etc etc for peanuts, because that's what they want to do. We should take our hats off to a fair chunk of them.
How about those who work in children's services. Adoption And fostering for instance?
You can't foster/adopt this child because you are white and the child is black?
You can not foster/adopt this black child despite already fostering a dozen and being of the appropriate colour because your religious beliefs does not allow you to make positive remarks about gays but your happy not to make negative remarks?
How about you cannot foster a child despite already successfully fostering 8 (some of foreign descent) because you are a member of UKIP and therefore must be a racist.
And of course the huge fall in adoption and fostering created by the little Hitlers who work for the council.
They may appear to be working for peanuts relative to someone who worked in the city
but in reality they are grossly overpaid.
I'd say that if a recruiter is still in a job, as it's a commission based and performance driven role, he MUST be competent. He may upset you, not make you feel special and maybe not even find you a job, but he must be finding people jobs and generating fees or else he'd be sacked quick sharp.
Maybe, but it's not a difficult job.
Person A (and A.2, A.3, A.4) really wants a job.
Person B really wants someone to do a job.
Person C has somehow managed to convince both of them that in return for large sums of cash they can find the other. It's the only sales job in history where both sides want the same thing!
I feel sorry for those who work in adoption and fostering services. It has to be a job with one of the hardest sets of decisions to make. Yet, they get idiots on the internet spouting all kinds of the most generalised shite about them I've read.
If incompetence is the rule in teaching I must be very very lucky, three school aged kids and only of them has had what could be called a poor teacher for 1 year. I have however seen 3 very poor deputy heads. Dep Head seems to be schools version of the [url= http://dilbert.com/fast/1995-02-05/ ]Dilbert Principle[/url]
Just because I'm currently in the process of selling and buying a property; estate agents for me. All but one or two have been utterly useless. Really do little more than unlocking the front door to a property.
I asked a series of very simple questions about a property I viewed at the weekend
"What is the vendors situation?"
"I don't know unfortunately"
"Well have they found somewhere or going into rented?"
"No idea, sorry"
"Is there gas in the village?"
"Hmmmmm I'm not sure to be honest"
"I presume it's oil for this property then?"
"It might be. Can you see an oil tank?"
"It will be in the back garden if there is"
"Oh I don't have a back door key"
....and so on.
andyrm - MemberI'd say that if a recruiter is still in a job, as it's a commission based and performance driven role, he MUST be competent. He may upset you, not make you feel special and maybe not even find you a job, but he must be finding people jobs and generating fees or else he'd be sacked quick sharp.
As thisisnotaspoon says above, this is really only a case of the incoherent selling to the incompetent. A marriage made in heaven.
El Vino - MemberIf incompetence is the rule in teaching I must be very very lucky, three school aged kids and only of them has had what could be called a poor teacher for 1 year. I have however seen 3 very poor deputy heads. Dep Head seems to be schools version of the Dilbert Principle
I'll second that. Two primary age kids in a relatively inner city school and all their teachers (bar one) have been great. The management (and the Deputy Heads in particular) have been shocking. Many great teachers out there, but a lot of them seem to go school/university/school. As a result they have no real understanding of the world outside of education and become institutionalised very quickly.
Years ago, played as a ringer in end of year footie match at teacher mate's school. School leavers v masters. Was akin to Monty Python, teachers fouling left, right and centre, referee (teacher) biased beyond belief. Even then teachers required a highly dubious penalty to sneak it 4-3. Afterwards I was told that next year's school discipline depended on the result (very rough inner London comp). If the teachers lost it didn't bear thinking about... 😯
unknown - Member
The public sector.
Yeah, them. Also - the private sector too.
More MoD storekeepers tales - A full set of Commercial diving equipment ended up in Afghan for 2 months. When returned the "waterproof" pelicase containing the surface electronic comms panels was full of water.
"Lost" a 40' trailer load of heavy rigging equipment when transporting from Devon to Scotland. It never, ever, turned up!
Don't know their exact job title but the people who estimate what large public projects are going to cost always seem to massively under estimate the actual cost.
Politicians without any hesitation.
Safestyle.
Close this thread now.