[Closed] Nothing says Christmas quite like an automatic weapon...

Guns are fun! And ****ing terrifying!

SO you can tell by that picture that one of them has a semi?

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Guns don't kill people do ... 😛

If he went on a killing spree with, that he'd probably only be able to murder 50 or so people before his finger got really, really tired.

And even if he was devious enough to switch fingers, he'd have to change magazines after 100 rounds anyway.

Guns don't kill people do ...

I thought it was rappers?

I seen it in [url=

documentary on BBC2[/url].

GrahamS - Member

Guns don't kill people do ...

I thought it was rappers?
I seen it in a documentary on BBC2.

I think some of them do coz they want to act cool ...

They do produce shite music though ...

machine guns and destructive devices are effectively banned for sale to the public

I'm not aware of any State restricting the number of guns or number of rounds of ammo you can own?

The chances of effective gun control laws being passed in the US are almost zero.

They are absolutely obsessed with the "right to bear arms".

I worked with a very smart US engineer, who built his own semi automatic rifle while at Uni. He used the schools CNC machines to do it. He had to buy the main mechanism as it was illegal to build one and I think he bought the barrel. He uses it for coyote hunting.

He's not an in-bred red neck but a very smart, well educated, middle class Californian.

When I asked him where he keeps it, his answer was "in the closet". What about the ammunition, "err in the closet"! He seemed surprised that I expected him to have a gun cabinet.

You can buy guns and ammunition in Walmart.

gobuchul - Member

The chances of effective gun control laws being passed in the US are almost zero.

Good.

They can cull each other as much as they like.

Earth is rather over populated at the moment ...

Cripes you lot talking about Automatics and Semi Automatics.. You know quite a lot more than I do about Gunz.. 😯

I'm more disturbed by the colour coordination (or lack of)
I mean, turgid red t-shirts and jeans?
And the T-shirts aren't all the same colour.. 🙄 You'da thunk they'd buy a job lot of the same colour, perhaps they did and ditched the ones with "I'm with Stupid" on in favour of these horrible things.
And
And the jeans are all different colours too..

My eyes hurt. 😛

bikebouy - Member

I'm more disturbed by the colour coordination (or lack of)
I mean, turgid red t-shirts and jeans?
And the T-shirts aren't all the same colour.

I have to say, I also found that quite offensive... 🙂

The family that slays together:-
“I’m about to fly to Paris and shoot ‘em in the head myself. I am not OK with Syrian refugees. I’m not OK with terrorists.”

Her rant went on: “I’m OK with putting them down, blacking them out, just put a piece of brass in their ocular cavity and end their miserable life. I’m good with that.” lovely rational woman.

footflaps - Member

They look like a bunch of redneck hillbilly inbreds.

That's probably because they are.

Truly terrifying that anyone can buy and own as many guns and ammo as they like in the US....

It fascinates me when information is gleaned from Google and purveyed as knowledge.
The level of ignorance exhibited here regarding firearms and Americans is mind boggling.
The desire to belittle American culture is still alive and well on ST and being peddled with ever increasing fervour.
I don't understand the English desire to condemn what they don't fully understand. And the feeling that anyone who doesn't live like they do is somehow not living right.
The hypocrisy of condemning someone for their culture.
That after all is what's happening here.
Admittedly the family photo is pretty ridiculous, but they are hardly a reflection of the majority of American families.
Most people would never know if someone they were visiting had a weapon or not. It's not mainstream to put your firearms on display in this bizarre manner and to use this families example to make encompassing critical and insulting remarks shows pretty high levels of ignorance.
A lot of what's being said is in humour. I get that but, come on

gobuchul - Member

The chances of effective gun control laws being passed in the US are almost zero.

They are absolutely obsessed with the "right to bear arms".

This from a man with poisonous spit.

[quote=gears_suck ]It fascinates me when information is gleaned from Google and purveyed as knowledge.
The level of ignorance exhibited here regarding firearms and Americans is mind boggling.

Like how ~30,000 people are killed by firearms in the US every year (from Google)?

This from a man with poisonous spit.

Only if I gland it.

Is access to guns really culture though?

Culture is art food tradition not the need to have ready access to a means of offing your self or a neighbour should the whim take you.

America has some great culture some real things of value and that is not belittled by pointing out the right to bare arms which is valued by a certain minority and rich powerful industry is just odd and seems dangerous. Fun internet fact of the day in the last 5 years more Americans have been shot by their own dogs than British policemen by terrorists.

30,000 people in the UK die each year from being bored to death by talking about the weather. FACT.

The last time I was in London someone started talking to me about the difference between Mist, drizzle and fine rain. I barely escaped with my life. Others around me were dropping like flies. The boring settings were on fully automatic.

right to bare arms which is valued by a certain minority

Are they in a minority?

The majority of Americans I have worked with seem to own guns and resist gun control.

It may be the company I keep rather than a reflection on all of the USA.....

Admittedly the family photo is pretty ridiculous, but they are hardly a reflection of the majority of American families.

It's not just some random family of nutters though.

She is [url= https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michele_Fiore ]Michele Fiore[/url], a serving Republican (surprise) politician who [url= http://lasvegassun.com/news/2015/mar/05/fiore-defends-campus-carry-bill-against-nyc-anti-g/ ]sponsored a bill to allow concealed carry of weapons at college campuses, schools and day care facilities[/url], saying it would allow [i]"young, hot little girls"[/i] to defend themselves from rapists. 😯

right to bare arms which is valued by a certain minority

Are they in a minority?

Good point - you'd expect more support for this kind of thing. The other day my boss told me to roll my sleeves down to cover up my arms - it's infringing my human rights!

Good point - you'd expect more support for this kind of thing.

i am not saying I am for or against gun control in the US. (Apart from the fact it's not really my business.)

It was a genuine question, are the majority of Americans for or against gun control? IME the majority I have met are against gun control.

Keep in mind that America was built on mass genocide,slavery and paranoia. It's just a way of life.

LHS - Member
The boring settings were on fully automatic.

Are you sure it wasn't semi-automatic. It's a common mistake you know...

Keep in mind that America was built on mass genocide,slavery and paranoia. It's just a way of life

Which they took from the British.

Are they in a minority?

Which they took from the British.

It was a genuine question, are the majority of Americans for or against gun control? IME the majority I have met are against gun control.

Well, its a difficult question that one, as like everything, certain drum bangers try and oversimplify things to the point of reductio ad absurdum - my experience of Americans is that nobody at all supports a complete absence of gun control - because they clearly think that criminals and people with mental health problems shouldn't be allowed guns - but of course this is already the law and nobody at all is arguing for that to change (yet this is, of course, used to say that the majority of the public support gun control by the anti gun lobby) in the same way, most people seem perfectly happy with the concept of federal checks before purchase to support the above.

The relevant question is more 'should firearm laws be made stricter than they are at the moment' - by which of course you could mean 'ban people on terrorist watch lists from owning guns' to which there would of course be broad support, right through to 'ban handguns' or 'ban large capacity magazines' which there might be a greater level of support, through again to UK like certification, to which there would be widespread opposition.

I think its pretty clear that the consensus in the states is that law abiding citizens should be allowed an absolute right to own guns, the question of what guns and to what degree that applies is more difficult. 'Gun control' isn't a simple or binary issue, so its impossible to answer the question easily.

In October 55% were in favour of stricter gun control according to Gallup but most favoured controlled ownership of hand guns so a minority in favour of right to bare arms but it falls short of favouring an absolute ban on private ownership of guns.

I sometimes hear people defending bull fighting as a cultural part of society. The thing is, cultures can and do change. Cultures are not static. They are always moving and being influenced by other cultures.

mrsfry - Member

Keep in mind that America was built on mass genocide,slavery and paranoia. It's just a way of life.

And of course we just drank tea and everyone we colonised was happy to invite us in and take on our values with open arms.
Or are you just trying to garner some support from the rest of the Luddites who pretend America is the only country that's ever taken something from someone?
What relevance that idiotic comment has regarding gun ownership has passed me by.

I would never pretend that England ever had a noble and glorious history.
English history has a body count greater than WW1 and 2.
I also don't like Churchill.

Thanks for clearing that up. I'll sleep OK now.

The most wonderful country in the world!

(where you have to be armed for protection)

On the gun laws it varies from state to state, I looked up utah before I went and you can have a semi auto in public so long as there isn't a round in the chamber, so you need a couple of seconds to kill 30 people.
The concealed carry at unis was being debated with senior and respected academics being ready to walk away from their jobs over it as it's such a bad idea.
The old if only a good guy had a gun line is so flawed, imagine there is a gunman on the rampage, 3 others then pull guns and shoot the guy they see waving the gun around. During one of the shootings when I was over a couple of people were carrying guns, they didn't draw them as they thought they would be shot by others or the cops.
The culture is bollocks, it's being fed by fear and money. As with everything the fear of it is greater than the reality. The stats back up that guns make you less safe, more likely to kill yourself or your family etc.
Most Americans do support some kind of gun control, there is no good reason for that family to have that collection of weapons.
American feels it has the right to impose it's views and ideas of what perfect looks like on the rest of the world, it should take some of that back.