We elect people pledging £3600 pa to our health insurance.
They only give us £3300 (or don’t get elected).
We top up the £3300 to £3600 if we want and can.
Nobody worse off, plenty of people better off.
Or put that 300 quid a year towards BUPA membership?
And since health care inflation is higher than ‘normal’ inflation soone or later to maintain the same service you will have to spend 100pc of your resource on health care which isn’t going to happen
Doesn't work like that. Well funded healthcare goes in hand with other well funded things, so the load on health service is reduced. Eventually.
Not quite sure why you aimed any of that at me
Because you seem to be deliberately misunderstanding.
and it’s not like all the other countries in the world are looking at those factors and saying “right, we need to nationalize healthcare”.
Well no, because many of them already have some form of nationalised healthcare, or nationalised system with private top ups.
nationalised system with private top ups.
Great pick one of those, sounds like everyone would be happy overnight, let's hear about it.
The others can’t or won’t but there’s no point in all of us having reduced healthcare to please that minority.
Nobody worse off, plenty of people better off.
Wow, I know I'm the one that pulled out the untermensch comment but you're really digging down on it aren't you?
Great pick one of those, sounds like everyone would be happy overnight, let’s hear about it.
Umm, no, you're the only one getting enthusiastic about it.
Actually, are you ****ing high? Holidays started early?
The more I think about it, the question the journalists should ask when the Minister is explaining they are paid enough:
Can you explain why there are 100k vacancies.
Please explain why we are importing our nurses.
Can you explain why the nurses are leaving at x rate.
If they come back and say:
Well there are vancancies in all sectors.
They replay could be:
Will people die if those vacancies are not filled.
Or
If there is a shortage of bricklayers, the rate goes up until it’s filled, this can’t happen in nursing.
Great pick one of those, sounds like everyone would be happy overnight, let’s hear about it.
It's called BUPA.
The UK has had it 50 odd years.
I've been in hospital since Sunday. All I can say is those that are saying these nurses, and all the other staff on the ward, don't deserve what they are asking for after 12 years of austerity need to give their heads a wobble.
The nurses are magnificent, the quality of care, their attitude, the 13hr shifts, their tireless work ethic - I haven't seen them stop working once. Even now, at nearly 2am, they are rushing around.
Then there's the support staff. The cleaners, one guy I saw cleaning the ward 8 times in a day. Going over everything, over and over to make sure if was clean.
Just give them what they want, they are incredible. We can afford it as a nation. We might retain a few nurses while we are at it and reduce the pressure on those that are already here.
We elect people pledging £3600 pa to our health insurance.
They only give us £3300 (or don’t get elected).
We top up the £3300 to £3600 if we want and can.
Nobody worse off, plenty of people better off.
this is incredibly simplistic thinking. That £300 is only going to fund the NHS properly if it’s multiplied by the number of taxpayers in the country. We all contribute, so that the relatively tiny amount of people compared to the total population per year who are unfortunate enough to need access to healthcare can benefit. It’s socialism 101, and it’s morally and ethically A GOOD THING. (And why Tories fundamentally despise it). If you wanted to top up that amount of care on a pay as you go basis, not helped out by the many, it’s gonna cost you 100x or more as a one off payment. Or if you insure for it, maybe 10-15x more yearly, depending on how big a pool of contributors that the insurance companies can gather. Because people that are unlikely to need or can’t afford the cover won’t be contributing, so the cost burden falls on a smaller pool of people, not to mention the fact that insurance companies, unlike sovereign states, like to turn a profit.
I want to hear about the broken banjo
That was years ago, the woman Dr told me to 'not be so enthusiastic'