they need to stop trying to shoehorn new presenters into the old roles. new presenters, new format, new studio.
a less attractive, less charismatic version of Vicki Butler Henderson
Strange, I thought exactly the opposite, I've never understood the "allure" of VBH.
Sabine, midly entertaining, but doesn't really add anything either.
Although her 'fat American' jibe during the rally cross car jumping challenge was quality,and presumably given the co presenters reactions less scripted than the rest of the show
Sabine is a less attractive, less charismatic version of Vicki Butler Henderson with a language barrier thrown in.
Wash mouth out!
Sabine is basically the ultimate female lady-person.
Sabine is a less attractive, less charismatic version of Vicki Butler Henderson with a language barrier thrown in.
One for the dads... Carmen Jorda instead of Sabine! She's not doing much work at Renault and could do with a part-time job on the side. 😀
Where's the 'news' section gone? - this was always one of the funniest bits with a nice few minutes of banter.
The news is now on Extra gear on BBC3, I think if they merge the best bits of Top Gear and Extra Gear they would have a pretty good show, especially if CE has gone.
Strange, I thought exactly the opposite, I've never understood the "allure" of VBH.
It's the husky "just getting over bronchitus" voice.
Should get Rory, Chris, Matt teamed up with Jenson Button. 😀
Should get Rory, Chris, Matt teamed up with Jenson Button.
That'd be great - screw the Stig off, just have a person.
VBH has the worlds most stupid laugh.
VBH is a bloke in drag
No comments about the sexiness of the male presenters? No ? 🙄
I'm quietly amazed a thread I started is still running sixteen pages later!
TBH, I've not really watched any of this series, although now a bunch of other series I've been watching are now over for the summer I might download them and watch them all.
What I have seen has continually reinforced my opinion that Evans is just an overgrown teenager, running around, shouting and showing off. He's nowhere near as good a driver as he likes to think he is, and reading his car reviews in a Sunday supplement he doesn't know as much about cars as he likes to think he does either; I've spotted factual flaws on a number of occasions, and I know bugger-all about cars!
I like Sabine, always have done, she's a bloody good driver, I think Matt LB has a nice droll delivery, I couldn't really care less about Eddie J, so whittling the presenters down to Matt, Sabine, and a couple of others who I actually know little about, ought to improve things no end.
I thought Chris Evans' bit about the MG was really good, seemed natural. Matt LeBlancs bit about the Porsche was a bit poor. Why not have him driving both Porsches and then come to the conclusion?
Still I'd keep Matt over Chris and go a bit more towards the Extra Gear type format.
What is the studio audience for? And why would anyone want to go?
Jordan really needs to be dropped.
'Fat American' PMSL!
[url= http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-07-04/top-five-bush-mechanic-repair-videos/7562178 ]The Australians know how to do a car show.[/url]
Watch the clips - these guys are brilliant at "fixing" stuff.
Maybe get one of them to replace Evans. 🙂
[quote=Houns ]No comments about the sexiness of the male presenters? No ?
Matt is pretty hot, isn't he?
I'm catching up with the series slowly, have only watched the first 3 so far so have been avoiding this thread - hence may not have the best formed opinions, but here goes anyway:
[quote=bigyinn ]Eddie Jordan doesnt really add anything, other than a sort of slightly odd uncle vibe.
Which is surely the role he's contracted for - I kind of like him in limited doses. Not all that convinced by Sabine - yes she's a bloody good driver, but you need more than that - nothing wrong with her, she doesn't make the show worse, but I think it would be fine without her (they already have a bloody good driver amongst what we all think should be the core 3).
They just need to trust the presenters to ad-lib a bit more, get shut of the stig and let Sabine hammer everything and not hold back on her opinion.
Get rid of EJ as well, odd dynamic and not comfortable with script
Sometimes (most of the time) the challenges are a bit far fetched. What about "here's £1k go and buy a car to race round the track" Would be better than any of the challenges this year plus room for banter/chemistry to grow.
What is the studio audience for? And why would anyone want to go?
Atmosphere so it's not a stale studio. It used to be sold out for years. I know as I tried to get tickets as it is filmed down the road at Dunsfold from where I lived and visible from top of Holmbury Hill when out on a ride
[url= http://www.standard.co.uk/news/crime/top-gear-host-chris-evans-under-investigation-over-sex-assault-claim-a3287536.html ]Remember I said he reminded me of Savile?[/url]
Oops!
Not in the same league by the look of it, but probably sharing the same sense of invulnerability in an enabling environment...
Just watched Sundays and it was actually the best of the series. Evans wasn't too annoying and there was some proper car content in there. EJ as annoying and SS as pointless as ever.
When they come back next season with the 3 preferred presenters and have reverted to the old SIARPC feature (here's hoping) it'll be pretty good. Not what it once was but a proper new car prog with room to grow.
It was a painful transition but it might be worth it. Fingers crossed.
Oh and well done Chris Evans, it was a brave decision but needed doing.
Carmen jorda
Blimey!
Carmen jorda
You mean the young lady they hired because she looks good not because of any discernible talent. There are better young female racing drivers who don't look as good in a bikini I'm sure. Michèle Mouton (the only woman to win in top level rallying) described her as a marketing gimmick.
Maybe top gear could find someone a little more credible 🙂
What is the studio audience for?
It was a big part of the show. I was in the audience for one of the early series (3 possibly?) and the off-camera banter and mucking around between takes was hilarious! This was the early days of the trio but it was easy to see that they genuinely got on with each other. The atmosphere generated by the off-camera stuff meant the filmed bits were better and more relaxed.
Oh and well done Chris Evans, it was a brave decision but needed doing.
+1. He could have tried and run for a second series but it speaks about his respect for the show to walk away from it and not damage if further. He was good in places (the MG bit last episode for example) but it's obvious LeBlanc is the head star for the time being with Harris and Reid as the sidekicks.
EDIT: just checked and it was S3, Ep 3 with Rob Brydon. My sister knows his PA so got us tickets from there 😀
He could have tried and run for a second series but it speaks about his respect for the show to walk away from it and not damage if further
He has a long history of just clearing off when things aren't going well for him - Radio 1, Virgin Radio etc, so I'm not sure 'respect for the show' is a given.
Evans is a full on media lovie. IMO there is no way he'd want to stick at TG amongst all the critism of him personally and falling ratings, there is a personal business logic too as if his "aura of popularity" is puntured his brand balue is much decreased. As I posted way back selling his cars when it was announced he was the new host was smart timing, maximum PR and avoids risk of show being a bust and any celebrity owner premium being eroded.
He took the smart decision to get out at the first opportunity and "resigned" is better than "fired"
Evans et al aside, Sutherland looked astonishing in that Mustang segment.
He has a long history of just clearing off when things aren't going well for him - Radio 1, Virgin Radio etc, so I'm not sure 'respect for the show' is a given.
There was a piece in one of the papers today quoting a close aquaintence and others saying exactly the same. But then he's rich enough T to be able to just walk away from any confrontation and not care about the consequences.
As far as the sex claims are concerned, he openly admits to walking into rooms either naked or just dropping his trousers, so this isn't really a kiddy fondling accusation, but he is, allegedly, something of a bully if he doesn't get his own way, so I can definitely see a sexual harassment charge coming.
Soooooooo......
Rumours of James Martin joining TG, anyone? No, not the one from Faith No More. The chef.
[img] 
[/img]
Rumours of James Martin joining TG, anyone?
Utter arsehole. Like Clarkson but without the good nature and warmth (and creativity). Watched a bit of some show yonks ago about him taking part in some Italian vintage sports car rally. Never seen someone so apparently happy to be shown acting like a complete spoiled prick.
some Italian vintage sports car rally.
I think the Mille Miglia deserves a little more than that!
Oh, all right. 😀 Would have been a classier event if they kicked JM out though.
I hate James Martin. I find him incredibly dull, yet self absorbed.
I also watched the Mille Miglia episode.. he's awful.
Plus, as we are on a cycling forum.. [url= http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/celebritynews/6195611/James-Martin-apologises-for-terrorising-cyclists.html ]THIS .[/url] 👿
Ah well.
I quite enjoyed that one series.
James Martin is an egotistical, rat faced, bike hating ladle squeezer.
Please, just no.
He is certainly on the list of 'celebs' it should be considered legal to kick in the nads.
They don't need to replace Chris Evans, Matt LeBlanc had outclassed him at every turn and showed he had an interest in cars and not just a collector of expensive luxuries. They should also start culling off some of the others that contributed nothing including Sabine Schmitz and Eddie Jordan. Leave just Mat LeBlanc, Chris Harris and Rory Reid, who all did a pretty good job.
Sabine Schmitz was a disappointment - contributed less than when she appeared in old topgear. However as the whole thing is scripted to hell, I wonder if the criticism (and praise come to that) of the individual presenters in well founded and more of the success/failure should be attributed to the script writers.
I thought one of the most telling parts of Evan's resignation comments was his praise of LeBlanc and specifically his professionalism and ability to learn and delivery his lines. It just reminds you what you are watching.
Chris Harris came across like he has in all his YouTube videos, it may be scripted but he must have had a big hand in writing his bits.
Chris Harris came across like he has in all his YouTube videos, it may be scripted but he must have had a big hand in writing his bit
+1
The last segment he did was very much like his old stuff. It feels like his YT videos, but with more cash. There's better camera angles and some CGI (a bit too much tbh).
I've watched very little of Harris before the series, and I don't find him all that impressive in front of the camera.
That last segment he did in the BMW i8 was awful; just repeatedly spouting the engine size and BHP figures. Was it a pastiche of something?
Sabine Schmitz was a disappointment - contributed less than when she appeared in old topgear. However as the whole thing is scripted to hell, I wonder if the criticism (and praise come to that) of the individual presenters in well founded and [b]more of the success/failure should be attributed to the script writers.[/b]
Obviously yes as the previous Top Gear was also heavily scripted with some proper cringe moments.
I watched a couple of old top gear episodes on Dave recently. The thing is that they were laugh-out-loud funny in a way that the new series hasn't got close to, but appears to be striving for. I'd forgotten how good they were
I know it was all carefully planned and scripted but like them or loathe them, May, Clarkson and Hammond had a real chemistry. It was like watching your mates prating around, but with a rather larger budget.
The new series is no better than 5th Gear - OK, but you wouldn't be upset if you missed it.
Not James Martin 😯
He's known to be a right arse in the classic car world at times. The Mille Miglia thing he did came in for a whole heap of criticism after he rebuilt the car with new white metal bearings etc then just thrashed it without bedding them in. Caused a fair amount of damage apparently.
Just let LeBlanc run with it for a series, might need help behind the scenes for ideas and locations but he's a proper petrolhead. They need to let the relationships build naturally.
Journos have had a preview of the new Amazon series... and it's not looking good for the BBC:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p045xtvk
