[Closed] Neighbour trading cars from his home address....anything I can do?

"I'd just like the various vehicles not obscuring my view or drive way."

now if hes blocking your drive way and yours cars on it - thats against some law or other..... but only if its an actual official drive way with a drop kerb and there is a car on it.... wierdly its apparently not an offence to block an empty drive way although a bit dickish - tis why tow ropes were invented :d

"2) The new VED law only apply to vehicles without a tax disc."

this is wrong dave.

even if you have a valid tax disk now that doesnt run out till august next year - if you sell your car you get an automatic rebate for full months left , the tax disk become invalid and your car will show on the ANPR as untaxed.

- we just sold a motor and got a rebate :d

Would it be OK if he was selling flash cars?

What if they were just his cars? A guy at my work has about 6. I am firmly in the "get over it" camp with this one.

A few years ago Northampton's streets filled up with hundreds of (ex-auction?)cars with for sale signs in the windows. It was rumoured to be a Polish thing. It certainly degraded the area and annoyed people as parking was a bit of a headache anyway. However I don't know what/if the council did anything but it came to an end.
I used to wonder what sort of person would buy a motor in the street having called a mobile number? I am definitely not in the 'get over it' camp and can't bear people who willfully disregard the rights of others by trying to run off-record businesses in residential streets.

3) People are really advocating seriously **** someone over, potentially losing their home and livelihood for the sake of a few parked cars? Wow.

Happened to me - be thankful that is is just 5. Ours acquired about 20 ... and parked them around the village.
There is actually nothing you can do - so the parish council found out.

oh no - a business from home.

i wonder where all the contractors on here run their business from?

Check if their insured on the imdb register. He won't be insuring each car individually so there has to be some sort of trade or fleet policy.If he's got his own policy then insurers normally require that you have premises but you are allowed to use your driveway but it's all very specific. Unless he's using his employers insurance which is a different ball game.

This was on MSE

s5 Clean Neighbourhoods and Environment Act 2005

Exposing vehicles for sale on a road

(1)A person is guilty of an offence if at any time -

(a)he leaves two or more motor vehicles parked within 500 metres of each other on a road or roads where they are exposed or advertised for sale, or
(b)he causes two or more motor vehicles to be so left.

(2) A person is not to be convicted of an offence under subsection (1) if he proves to the satisfaction of the court that he was not acting for the purposes of a business of selling motor vehicles.
(3)A person guilty of an offence under subsection (1) is liable on summary conviction to a fine not exceeding level 4 on the standard scale.

I believe that a level 4 fine is £2500.

Therefore if you're going to start "buying and selling of cars from home" you're going to need a home that features sufficient land to park the cars that you're offering for sale, and if you want to transform your front garden into a car showroom you're going to need planning permission.

I always thought that there was some legislation

I suppose a loophole may lie in what 'exposed or advertised for sale' means in the light of online advertising and sales. Back in the day that meant a For Sale sign in the windscreen. If the OP simply suspected they were for sale then nothing about the cars, other than their quantity, says 'stop me and buy one'.

Similarly the seller isn't operating a business from his home, in planning terms, because the cars aren't in his home, they are in the street and buyer doesn't need to enter house to see or buy them.

Check if their insured on the imdb register

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No immigrants seen in the boot so far

Nip over to Calais, get a couple and put them in his boot 😀

Sorry your right not imdb it's m I d.

@ robdob - charming 🙄

i wonder where all the contractors on here run their business from?

As if that's even close to the same thing. I don't have computers piled up all over the streets getting in people's way now do I?

i wonder where all the contractors on here run their business from?

"2) The new VED law only apply to vehicles without a tax disc."

this is wrong dave.

even if you have a valid tax disk now that doesnt run out till august next year - if you sell your car you get an automatic rebate for full months left , the tax disk become invalid and your car will show on the ANPR as untaxed.

- we just sold a motor and got a rebate :d

My mistake, good to know.

@squirrelking

Yeah it doesn't matter if someone's doing something illegal right next door, does it? Let's just ignore the facts that he's not paying his business rates, or abiding by planning regulations, or paying the correct taxes, or breaking his tenancy agreement, or creating hassle for all his neighbours, it doesn't matter about rules which make it an easier and nicer country to live in! Let's all do exactly what we want and expect people just to put up with it, ok?

I take it you know the guy then when you can say all that so confidently? Must be great to have all his personal information and bank records to hand to make such a statement. Tell me though, why are you wasting your talents on this guy and not the ones who owe millions? Methinks you have your priorities wrong somewhere.

Just on a similar note, does this mean self-employed folk aren't allowed to rent?

Depends on the nature of the work whether you can do it from a rented property.

I'm guessing that running a car sales business, with stock, would fall outside the fuzzy grey area for most landlords.

I normally agree with the "life is too short" approach...
But life is also too short to have your environment blighted by some selfish git selling cars.

But life is also too short to have your environment blighted by some selfish git selling cars.

I agree, parked cars are a blight... however i dont see how a parked car that is for sale different to one that is not for sale.

I agree, parked cars are a blight... however i dont see how a parked car that is for sale different to one that is not for sale.

It isn't. But five is.

I agree, parked cars are a blight... however i dont see how a parked car that is for sale different to one that is not for sale.
It isn't. But five is.

So the street is normally totally empty, but now has five cars on it?

Is he operating a legit business?
Trade plates, insurances etc? This is what I'd be checking, and if he's not, I'd shop him for that- odds are that if he's not legit the cars are almost certainly going to be uninsured- for customer test drive especially - and no insurance is a hanging offence in my book.

Trade plates, insurances etc? This is what I'd be checking,

its a bloke selling (apparently) 5 cars, you really think he is going down the trade insurance route rather than cheap 3rd party? This whole thread assume he is got some scheme going, when in reality its probably just a bloke who has first refusal (through his work) to some cheap cars he can sell on for a few quid.

this place is now full of self righteous, petty,over-privileged tossers 🙁

With no insurance paying no tax and the rest. Play by the rules or get out.

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pitduck - Member
this place is now full of self righteous, petty,over-privileged tossers

Have you been on the forum long? Seriously, you should have known that by now.

munrobiker - Member

What if they were just his cars? A guy at my work has about 6. I am firmly in the "get over it" camp with this one.

Seems like virtually every suburban road I drive on now is just basically a mile long chicane, weaving in and out of parked cars.

I really wish they'd introduce a tax for leaving cars on the road. Own more cars than you have parking spaces on your land? Fine, that'll be £250 a year, per car please.

I really wish they'd introduce a tax for leaving cars on the road.

So poor people with no drives get penalised?

I really wish they'd introduce a tax for leaving cars on the road. Own more cars than you have parking spaces on your land? Fine, that'll be £250 a year, per car please.

I'm guessing from that, you live in a nice, middle class estate of suburban semi's with manicured gardens, double garages and driveways? Good luck with informing the residents of somewhere with rows and rows of terraced houses (most northern towns, for example) about the new charges you'll now be lobbying on them. Can I watch when you do? 😆

If your car is taxed you can park it pretty much wherever you like. This applies no matter how many cars you own. And even if you're a frightful poor person, who probably wears leisurewear, and smokes. I know it isn't fair that people with too much time on their hands, no real problems worthy of note, who tut loudly at things they disapprove of, aren't allowed to make laws up as they go along, but its an unjust society we live in! Pesky bloody democracy! 😀

Binners, it would work if it were zoned, as in Japan. Or, say, if you have two parking spaces and have more than two cars.

Or, like in our street, if you have a garage and one driveway space but you convert the garage knowing that this will force you to leave one car on the narrow congested street permanently thereby making the street a right clogged up mess 👿

Or even worse, if you have a driveway for two cars nose to tail but only put one in it because you are simply too lazy to shuffle the cars around 👿

"If your car is taxed you can park it pretty much wherever you like. This applies no matter how many cars you own. Even if you're a frightful poor person, who probably wears leisurewear, and smokes."

tell that to the residents of the city centre flats in aberdeen or even garthdee now thanks to the university.

permit required.... and that permit only gives you the right to park your motor -it doesnt guarantee you a space on your street ..... or even in the city.

#firstworldproblems

binners - Member

I'm guessing from that, you live in a nice, middle class estate of suburban semi's with manicured gardens, double garages and driveways? Good luck with informing the residents of somewhere with rows and rows of terraced houses (most northern towns, for example) about the new charges you'll now be lobbying on them. Can I watch when you do?

If your car is taxed you can park it pretty much wherever you like. This applies no matter how many cars you own. And even if you're a frightful poor person, who probably wears leisurewear, and smokes. I know it isn't fair that people with too much time on their hands, no real problems worthy of note, who tut loudly at things they disapprove of, aren't allowed to make laws up as they go along, but its an unjust society we live in! Pesky bloody democracy!

Looks like a winning post for Binners Bullshit Bingo.

inverse snobbery about the middle classes - check
downtrodden northerners - check
smokers - check
tracksuits - check
ignoring or misunderstanding the issue at hand - check

If there was a comment in there about the Thatcher it'd be a full house.

As it happens I live in chav-tier Essex. Perhaps we can have a competition about who has the most deprived areas in a 10 mile radius and who has had the most bikes stolen?

Anyway to use the local vernacular, you can shove it up your bollocks mate. 🙂

this will force you to leave one car on the narrow congested street permanently thereby making the street a right clogged up mess

dont you live in a new build estate....surely these ethical house builder people who exist only to make you a lovely housing estate to live on have made the roads wide enough to park cars on the side no ?

urely these ethical house builder people who exist only to make you a lovely housing estate to live on have made the roads wide enough to park cars on the side no ?

No, they've given everyone at least two parking places, if you include the garage. Most have enough space even without the garage if you gravel over a couple of redundant feet of grass. But no, our road looks like this in the evenings:

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I really wish they'd introduce a tax for leaving cars on the road.

They have. It is called 'Vehicle Excise duty'
It applies regardless of if you car is being driven or parked up.

that looks like a photo of my drive molgrips 😀

Inland Revenue won't do anything about it.
Neither the Police unless there is civic disturbance (but still, they won't stop him trading from my experience).
Best policy is to note the registration plates and hope for something hot.

Neighbour trading cars from his home address....anything I can do?

Is there any chance you could mind your own ****ing business and live and let live..?

My neighbour trades scrap from his gaff and although he weighs about 30 stone, is quite grubby and smells pretty bad, he is a diamond geezer and would do anything for anyone..

maybe your neighbour is a nice fella too..?

Well this has snowballed 🙄 was just seeking some advice!

Is there any chance you could mind your own **** business

He's complaining about the street being obstructed, so it is his business.

can a fire engine get up the street to attend an emergency?
if not, then it's worth reporting

And could a light aircraft make an emergency landing? If not... .

Edit: on a more serious note I have a neighbour that reacts the way some people on this thread suggest. She is clearly miserable and her constant nagging at others over the way they live makes her even more miserable because they just go on doing whatever she has got upset about.