[Closed] Neighbour commuting by tractor and causing a nuisance - WWSTD?

Tell him your having a party for the adults, then as he walks in, tell him to put the tractor keys in a bowl?

We look into all complaints, no matter how deranged they are.

Good stuff.

What about people that post

Please cite the case and the law

It seems to be creeping in more and more. It stifles borderline-slanderous gossip and conjecture and will be the final nail in the urban myth's coffin.

It stifles borderline-slanderous gossip and conjecture and will be the final nail in the urban myth's coffin.

You got any evidence for that? Anecdotal? Thought so.

You live in the countryside and complain about the farmers. Was brought up on farm. This about sums peoples attitude to those that work in the countryside.

We like the look of the countryside but not the farmers making a living. Early start and late finish is required to put long days in to make money and keep the countryside looking how you like it.

Around here people complain about the smell of the sheep. Of course that's because they moved into the countryside from the town and have no idea what makes it tick.

This about sums peoples attitude to those that work in the countryside

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Grew up on a farm, went to agricultural college, worked on a farm, owned a farm.

Like all things, there are 2 sides to every story.

You got any evidence for that? Anecdotal? Thought so.

Listen pal, some of my best friends are urban myths... 😉

people complain about the smell of the sheep

Sounds to me like an anecdote. You got a (mint) sauce for that?

You live in the countryside and complain about the farmers. Was brought up on farm. This about sums peoples attitude to those that work in the countryside.

In your rush to play the victim, you seem to have overlooked that the OP lives in a small town, three miles away from the farm.

We like the look of the countryside but not the farmers making a living.

It stifles borderline-slanderous gossip and conjecture and will be the final nail in the urban myth's coffin.

No, it just helps reduce the number of morons making shit up

Pawsey_Bear You live in the countryside and complain about the farmers.

ajantom (Op) It's a residential street on the edge of a small East Devon town, houses on both sides, pavements, streetlamps, a primary school 100m up the road. So not in the middle of nowhere! I think the farm is about 3 miles away.

You live in the countryside and complain about the farmers. Was brought up on farm. This about sums peoples attitude to those that work in the countryside.

We like the look of the countryside but not the farmers making a living. Early start and late finish is required to put long days in to make money and keep the countryside looking how you like it.

Around here people complain about the smell of the sheep. Of course that's because they moved into the countryside from the town and have no idea what makes it tick.

Have you actually bothered to read my original post? Nope, guess not.
My complaint isn't about farmers, or how the countryside looks, or even the smell (I'm quite partial to a nice, strong countryside pong as it goes). I even totally get the early start/late finish - seeing as how I grew up next to and working part-time on a farm. I just don't like the fact that this one farm...you know what lets just call him an idiot....decides to drive his tractor to and from a residential area, and wakes up my daughter and wife (and sometimes me) every bloody morning and night.

You live in the countryside and complain about the farmers... This about sums peoples attitude to those that work in the countryside.

legitimate complaints about farmers though? or are there none?

You live in the countryside and complain about the farmers.

He's not complaining about farmers. He's complaining about an antisocial noisy arsehole.

[quote=councilof10 ]You got any evidence for that? Anecdotal? Thought so.
Listen pal, some of my best friends are urban myths...

that is made up

There is no way you have friends

we are talking milliseconds, not minutes," she said. "Your engine will warm up the oil much faster when driving at full speed

Who is this 'she?'.

Sounds like the kind of this Louise would say.

No, it just helps reduce the number of morons making shit up

This is a discussion forum, not the Old Bailey. Jeesh, don't people get tetchy when the mercury rises!

your reason for posting would be gone if they were not so stop complaining

Shiboleth I assume

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If one were to report people for outrageously provocative liberally über-tolerent trolling, would it be taken seriously by the mods?

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Pawsy_Bear's turned up, you can remove the [hypothetical]

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* don't use red diesel

Buy a Combine... peace through superior fire power!

And if that doesn't do it, buy two and block the road either side of his drive 😉

(This may be a very expensive option, mind)

Have you actually bothered to read my original post?

yes I did and subsequent ones.

its a complaint, the guy works in the countryside, you insinuate he uses red diesel illegally (there is some necessary road travel allowed) you don't know that and I guess its because you want to paint his character in a certain light.

Id remind the rest we only have your word for the situation, it has some bias (red diesel) guys been cast as an antisocial noisy arsehole. Fact or opinion?

He (the farmer) isn't doing anything wrong. They complain here about 'slow tractors' on the road delaying them on their journeys on Facebook etc etc. I can see his behaviour could be annoying if what you say is true. But its also the harvest season. All the farmers here work late start early. Drive tractors, pull implements, drop mud on road etc Its the countryside its how it is.

I've got a brand new one of them.. . . and I'll give you the key! 😉

I dunno Capt. You can buy a combine for a surprisingly small amount of money...
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There's a Claas one for 250 quid that looks like it could be improved by being parked at the end of a road.

Crikey - think I may get one for the Lakedistrict lanes... that would get the bloody tourists out my way!!!

I've got a brand new one of them.. . . and I'll give you the key

Please don't make a song and dance about it.

It's a residential street on the edge of a small East Devon town, houses on both sides, pavements, streetlamps, a primary school 100m up the road. So not in the middle of nowhere! I think the farm is about 3 miles away.

You live in the countryside and complain about the farmers

Have you actually bothered to read my original post?

yes I did and subsequent ones.

Would larger type help?

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dosent change anything 😉

3 mile 2 mile 1 mile is that relevant? Nope.

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He's not complaining about farmers. He's complaining about an antisocial noisy arsehole.

Who happens to be a farmer. You get dickheads in every walk of life. I don't read the news much, but reading some of the posts on here I'm guessing they've become some kind of protected species.

#prayforthefarmers

You could tip his tractor. It allegedly works for cows and they live on farms!

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3 mile 2 mile 1 mile is that relevant? Nope.

Disagree.

For example, If a farmer pulled that shit down Royston Road in Glasgow at 4:30 in the morning, maybe 8 miles from the nearest farm, the result would be very different to some posts on a biking website about how peeved the residents were.

They complain here about 'slow tractors' on the road delaying them on their journeys on Facebook etc etc.

Ah, so other people make complaints about farmers doing different things somewhere else, and you just want to lump the OP in with them? got it...

I can see his behaviour could be annoying if what you say is true.

If that's the case then why the rest of the spiel? If what he is doing is annoying, and he could modify his behaviour to show a little more respect and understanding to his neighbours then wouldn't that be agreeable?

All the farmers here work late start early. Drive tractors, pull implements, drop mud on road etc Its the countryside its how it is.

Yes, we understand that, but do they all drive their extremely noisy agricultral machines through residential areas of small towns at anti-social hours?

No? thought not. It's not a complaint about farmers, it's a complaint about a single person, doing something without much regard for those around him. His profession and the specific machinery is relative to the situation for descriptive purposes and to explain the situation, but it is not the reason for the complaint. It could just as easily be a dog groomer guy with a Harley, or an accountant with a chav-wagon exhaust.

It's not like the OP moved in next to a farm and started complaining about the noise, the guy has moved his farm machinery into a residential area and is causing some friction, why shouldn't the residents be annoyed... it works both ways...

Film it tomorrow morning and post it up on youtube. Not sure it'll help but then at least we'll know if you're deserving of sympathy or a swift hoof to the slats.

Sounds like you're not going to get anywhere being civil with him. Therefore the only option is:

...then you must kill him.

That'll sort it.

then you must kill him

Wait until he gets out of his tractor then run him over.

Use the SMIDSY defence and you'll be fine.

Couple of hours community service tops for death by careless..........

TBH i'm surprised he's got time to upset the neighbours. farmers are usually busy burying asbestos and burning plastic this time of year aren't they? 😈

He (the farmer) isn't doing anything wrong.

Apart from probably being a Statutory Nuisance, you mean?

https://www.gov.uk/guidance/noise-nuisances-how-councils-deal-with-complaints

[i]For the noise to count as a statutory nuisance it must do one of the following:

unreasonably and substantially interfere with the use or enjoyment of a home or other premises[/i]

Yep.

[i]Councils are responsible for looking into complaints about noise from:

vehicles, machinery or equipment in the street (for example, music from car stereos)[/i]

Yep.

Also,

[i]To deal with complaints about noise that’s louder than a permitted level at night (from 11pm to 7am) councils can issue a warning notice.

They can issue warning notices for noise at night without it being a statutory nuisance.[/i]

Amateur Del!

Grind up the asbestos to save burying it (it came out the ground didn't it?) and dissolve the plastic straight into the stream. Plenty of time then to spray slurry into Tom's open window at 3am.

Do you have any friend with access to RPG launchers and the right ammunition? One morning of a large noise as HESH hits warm engine block and problem solved with no revenge comebacks.

i am not worthy. 🙁 😆

Cougar nails it..

That's what she said.

Do you think its possible that he doesn't want to leave the tractor on the farm as he doesn't want it to get nicked?

I'm just trying to work out why he commutes be tractor

I have to say that those hours do seem incredible. Does he keep this up for most of the year?

He comes home at 10.30 pm having spent the last 4 hrs drinking Cider in the pub.

In the good old days I did actually threaten to kill a milkman who went from a near silent electric milk float to a DI Transit which he used to leave running underneath my bedroom window at stupid o clock in the morning. He parked up round the corner from then on.

Do you think its possible that he doesn't want to leave the tractor on the farm as he doesn't want it to get nicked?

I'm just trying to work out why he commutes be tractor

I have to say that those hours do seem incredible. Does he keep this up for most of the year?

@ampthill - BTW your user name is extremely apt, I live at Ampthill house (sounds posher than it is!)

He may not want to get it nicked, but I'm sure there are barns or sheds he could park it in. Is tractor theft a big thing?

He maybe doesn't do such long hours in winter, maybe 6.30 am until 9pm or so. But the 4.30/5am start and back at 10-11pm has been going on for a couple of months at least. Obviously more noticeable now we're leaving windows open too. It does very much seem to be sunrise to just past sunset.

This morning he left at 5am, and as I type this he's not back yet. Though one of their cats has just popped over to poo on our lawn!

Though one of their cats has just popped over to poo on our lawn!

and people will try and tell you that cats are hard to train.

and people will try and tell you that cats are hard to train.

My god, he [u]is[/u] playing a long game 😯

Fair enough if you lived next door to the farm, you should have had that expectation when purchasing the property but in a residential area screw that.

He's just turned up. Quite quick tonight - the drive must be clear for once.

Do you think its possible that he doesn't want to leave the tractor on the farm as he doesn't want it to get nicked?

a) whoTF steals tractors?

b) leaving it running to "warm up" unattended for several minutes every morning is surely a bigger risk?

What type of tractor is it, Modern or vintage?

Tractors and farm machinery get stolen a lot. Valuable and hard to trace and easy to sell

to me this is classic nimbyism

I'm never going to get my marking done at this rate 😉
s'okay I love a bit of procrastination, and it's only Yr7 work anyway.
I'm always more active on the forum when it's marking/reports/department plan/appraisal time.

@godzilla - It's a modern tractor, 62 plate I think. Not sure on the make, but it's a lovely blue colour. Not big on tractors, but it looks like a good bit of kit, decent size too.

to me this is classic nimbyism

I'm not [i]that[/i] pissed off really. Just though the ST massive might find it amusing (and it seems they do) and it annoys me enough to need a bit of a moan. Because, being British, that's all I'll ever actually do. God forbid that I actually try to talk to him again *shivers*

a) whoTF steals tractors?

They say you dont understand what its like to be a farmer? They don't understand what it's like to be a townsperson...

TBH i'm surprised he's got time to upset the neighbours. farmers are usually busy burying asbestos and burning plastic this time of year aren't they?

Don't forget collecting old tyres. This takes a lot of time, effort and energy and is a nationwide farming competition. Big prizes involved for the most tyres covering a massive tarpaulin.

Agricultural theft is big business. Tractors, 4x4s, quad bikes etc.

There's your answer OP. Quit being a teacher and join the lucrative world of agriculture vehicle theft. If his tractor is as nice as you've described, surely the local fence for farm machinery will spread the word. Soon your mad skillz in stealing fancy tractors will have you living the high life.

They say you dont understand what its like to be a farmer? They don't understand what it's like to be a townsperson

I'm neither fowl nor fish. Brought up rural, but I tasted the fruit of urban plenty in the dizzying metropolis of Exeter for too long, I can't go back now.

Tractor theft is a big thing. You would think that with a small cheap budget tractor costing around £30K and anything in the normal size in use today being about £60-80K that security would be a big deal. However, most tractors can still be started with a common key (I think there are only about 3 or 4 different keys in use by some manufacturers. It may be changing but things like immobilizers and alarms are not commonly fitted to tractors. I just had a new clutch fitted in my Massey at the local dealers. When I collected it it had a different key in it. I had to go back to the office and swap it for mine (I preferred my key ring 🙂 )

to me this is classic nimbyism

I think there are only about 3 or 4 different keys in use by some manufacturers. It may be changing but things like immobilizers and alarms are not commonly fitted to tractors

I'm so nicking me a tractor!
And it just so happens there's a lovely blue one opposite.

Did not know the tractor/key thing!

Maybe that's why he blocks it in?

New Holland? (Big blue tractor).
I must admit if I spent £60k on a tractor I'd want to drive it all the time as well! 😆

ignore the liberals on here . He's being a selfish ignorant **** who needs to learn about being considerate towards others but sounds like he never will. . I dislike unreasonable nimbys but you don't sound like one .Waking people up with loud machinery in a residential area on a regular basis is not acceptable and i'd speak to the local authorities and to hell with the consequences . I feel like popping over to Ottery right now and having a little chat with the moron but I'd probably end up in court. As you've guessed I hate inconsiderate people and ruining peoples' sleep is a major intrusion . Grass the wxxxer for red diesel usage outside allowed limits . Not a nice thing to do but sounds like you've no choice unless you can ignore it or kill him. Good luck

It seems pretty obvious that you need to kill him. The only question is how to dispose of the body?

And a quick respray and you've got your very own tractor. How cool is that?!

It seems pretty obvious that you need to kill him. The only question is how to dispose of the body?

Eat him.

It's the West Country. No one will judge you. 😉

I [u]do[/u] know a good butcher. He runs his own restaurant too, might be time for some special meat on the menu.

I come from a large extended family of farmers who are spread across several small towns in East Devon and also Somerset, best keep my head down.

But you're a cycling farmer. The best kind 😉

tjagain - Member
Tractors and farm machinery get stolen a lot. Valuable and hard to trace and easy to sell

to me this is classic nimbyism

Agree on both counts. Tractors are not exactly out of place in rural settings, even rural towns. They are also rather expensive and incredibly easy to pilfer.

By all means get the council involved, but in a rural setting do you honestly think they'll come down against a farmer?

[quote=tjagain ]to me this is classic nimbyism

If it was me complaining, you might have a point, but from the sounds of things the OP doesn't live in a tiny village surrounded by farms like me. The question is what sort of noise pollution would be unacceptable at those hours, and who do farmers get special dispensation?

singletrackmind - Member

He comes home at 10.30 pm having spent the last 4 hrs drinking Cider in the pub.

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Please cite the case and the law, cheers.

Literally the first hit on a google search was this

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-devon-13805083

Not a school playing field but still, close enough.

The article is not clear what the offence is, and appears to have misled some that the mowing of the field with red was the offence. Of course there is no such offence. Driving to the sports field on red would be the offence.

Late to the thread as always but we've faced this problem with pikeys who moved in next door and life became intolerable with all the dogs, drug dealing and all-night raves.

The only answer is to move house. Sorry.

If he is drinking and tractoring each night then let the police know which pub he drinks in and what time he leaves.

He won't be doing much tractoring with a driving ban.

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If he is drinking and tractoring each night then let the police know which pub he drinks in and what time he leaves.

Thats right - call the police and tell them that some people on a cycling forum have made a humorous inference from something not written in the OP about a guy who drives about in a tractor.

If he is drinking and tractoring each night then let the police know which pub he drinks in and what time he leaves

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Best. Car chase. Ever.

Wait a minute, if you think you should put up with noise, that makes you a 'liberal'? Jeez, I've been approaching this whole politics thing all wrong. Thanks Kaiser!

maybe the wrong word ..not meant politically ..just trying to point to people who think anything is OK. As someone said ..those who think it's unreasonable to complain would soon be whining in the same situation after interrupted sleep on a regular basis.

Is that the tractor they chase you with if you 'jump bale'?

I've just realised that the OP is a teacher... You're finished by half-three, so why not have a little siesta then you only need a few hours at night? 😉