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It sounds like she was this way inclined before she lost her husband - the remark about the OPs shed being the reason her husband was in ICU makes me think she's going to blame him for everything that she sees wrong in her life, if not the world.
Sympathise OP, it's not easy having rubbish neighbours best you can do is make sure everything is all above board your end in case someone does come around from the council to act on one of her claims.
Get her some flowers or something
& then the OP will get flamed when they die?
If you are a council tenant with a drive then I would guess that the council expect that there is sufficient space to put a vehicle on or off the drive.
If you really want to get the problem fixed give then a call and explain the situation. They will either put double yellows opposite the drive or Tarmac over the verge. Well that's what I have seen them do in the past.
Is there room for a projector in your shed?
Or some of that plastic mesh down that allows grass to grow through but can support vehicles.
tjagain - Member
It may not be illegal to drive over the grass but probably is - but thats irrelevant - its antisocial.
Wow.
One simple question for you. Given you're capable of reading the OP...What should be do, if not drive his van out of the driveway to work each day? Park it on the road and increase the danger of it being broken into? Because of a few inches of council verge?
Or some of that plastic mesh down that allows grass to grow through but can support vehicles.
Woooaaahhh! Easy there, Pook. We'll have none of that sensible compromise stuff around here. It's either stick her under the patio, or assume the role of her late husband and make her feel like a woman again.
No. Grey. Areas.
...well....maybe some if you go the latter route.
Or some of that plastic mesh down that allows grass to grow through but can support vehicles.
All the smart kids obsessing over imposing their binary moral determinations didn't ever think to find an actual, practical, solution. The OP, assuming he'd rather not damage the verge, could have a sheet of plywood or lump of carpet (store it in your big shed?) to throw down on the verge on the odd occasion when somebody parks opposite the drive. The longer term solution would be the mesh as Pook suggests.
Glasgowdan - what would I do - hard to say because I don't know the whole picture but I wouldn't drive over a public green space to park. I'd probably park on the road accross my driveway
As you probably remember I don't drive regularly but a couple of years ago I had a community job where I had to drive around town - most of my colleagues parked on pavements - I refused to do so
I've always found you get a much better angle reversing on to our drive in my van, then you can also drive out forward and see pedestrians, cars etc. without the lack of windows in the back obscuring the view. Would that work??
....drive over public green space ...
Lolz.
To suit your stance, you've made it sound like he's grass tracking through the park every morning to avoid traffic.
Rather than what he actually said, which was that one rear wheel clips the edge of a bit of grass verge.
Priceless
Yes, but Neal he's technically RIGHT! Sitting on his keyboard tapping away showing us the legalities of the situation and what's morally correct, so we'd better listen and agree! No real world thinking is relevant here I guess.
It's a space of land, it's green (well, more brown), and it's the public's, therefore it's public green space, and he's depriving a swathe of little boys and girls from having a kickabout with jumpers for goalposts because of his abhorrent selfishness. He should, of course, just get an office job and a smart car to avoid such law breaking
I'd probably park on the road accross my driveway
I thought it was people doing that that's caused the issue?
I suppose it depends on the definition of just clipping and whether it is doing any damage. The grass verge at back of my house still has a deep tyre rut from a van that decided to park in front of my gate a few months ago when it was wet. Not the crime of the century but pretty unsightly due to a moments thoughtlessness. Do it regularly and it becomes an eyesore and an inconvenience to pedestrians
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Also ignore the little Hitlers telling you you're technically in the wrong
The threshold for Hitlerhood reaches an all-time low. In the old days you had to invade neighbouring countries and commit genocide but now all you have to do is suggest somebody shouldn't drive across a piece of grass and voila! You're Hitler!
Is it a big van? Like bigger than the person who 'designed' your drive envisioned someone wanting to park there? I think we need photos including the 'damage' you are allegedly doing.
As per nick above I occasionally get someone put 2 wheels onto the patch of grass at the front of my house, resulting in a tyre rut if done when the ground is wet. The rut doesn't go away and I have to sort it out.
And yes, as convert mentions, the protagonists seem to be people with massive vans expecting to be able to park them in residential areas which weren't designed to accommodate them.
Re: the OP, she'll probably buy a huge **** off ornamental rock now and plonk it right on the corner of grass which is being driven over.
In these little micro-examples you can see how wars are started. Two belligerents unable to accept any compromise and totally believing that they are in the right 🙂
I like the idea of sending her some flowers 'be the example you want to see in the world' etc. It might not work, some people just wanna see the world burn, as somebody else pointed out.
I think a lot of it is down to perception. I used to live next to a guy who was despised by the neighbour the other side of him. But because I liked the guy I never heard his dogs barking all the time and his shouting at shadows and using power tools all the time :D. Well, maybe I [i]heard[/i] them. But it never seemed to bug me at all. Yet the other neighbour who didn't like him was constantly at her wits end.
Re: the OP, she'll probably buy a huge **** off ornamental rock now and plonk it right on the corner of grass which is being driven over.
To be fair, if she does that (and she doesn't own the grass) The council will happily remove it for you.
More likely a bag of brass screws will get emptied into the grass. I can't stand people that drive over / park on a public verge because at the end of the day the council still has to fix it and it's a spectacular waste of money.
The council (ie the taxpayer) still has to pay for it.
Indeed, so a slight adaptation to the grass verge would be a lot cheaper then.
By the sound of it, clipping a corner with one back wheel isn't going to cost much, or take long, to sort out. A corner of the verge angled with something more durable than grass. Pretty simple.
Indeed, so a slight adaptation to the grass verge would be a lot cheaper then.
Who's paying? I'm guessing the tenant/landlord/ home owner as per requests for a drop kerb for a new driveway.
If it's not possible for you to park and drive off without damaging grass etc, maybe you should also write to the council and explain the predicament.
Suggest a shallower curve to the drive exit thus giving the space needed to use it properly.
That way you can empathise with the old dear and tell her you have also asked the council for help because you are concerned for her bit of grass that isn't hers.
Might take her back a bit and then you can join forces against the council.
The council (ie the taxpayer) still has to pay for it.
Well, they won't have to mow it so it's probably cost neutral.
This thread needs pics of the strret, parking opposite and bit of grass your clipping.
Then you'll get some useful feedback.
Take the initiative with the council and ask them to round off the verge?
Sounds like it's badly designed from the start and this will eliminate the problem / future maintenance.
Meanwhile, over on Mumsnet, you're the inconsiderate asshole neighbour who built a shed without permission and has a big daft van that he can't drive properly. (-:
Would reversing onto the drive (like THC tells you to) not solve the problem?
I read it that the OP is reversing onto the drive and the issue is when then rear wheels are cutting the corner when exiting the drive.
Ah, perhaps. I'd read it as though the rear wheels come out first, but you might well be right.
Come out of the drive, hook a slight left before actually turning right to position yourself further over? (Or vice versa if it's a left-hander ofc.) Or a bit of a shimmy with reverse maybe?
Bloody hell Cougar he wants to come out of his drive not do vehicle synchronised gymnastics for 2 hours! 😆
L2DRIV N00B!!1!
I second sending her flowers. Fill them full of really angry bees first though 😈
There must be a way of getting on and off the drive without driving over the verge. Forward a bit, back a bit etc. I have to do that because people park on the double yellows across from my drive. Takes a bit longer is all.
When a car parks opposite theres no way I can get my van off the drive without hooking a right before my rear wheels are on eithdr the tarmac path or road. Left is even narrower. It looks worse now as it's winter.
I'm reversing onto my drive.
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I can see why that might annoy her.
To contradict myself; what if you went in forwards?
I take it that's her front garden behind the wall? Yes, I can see why that might miff her a bit. I imagine you could probably get a car on and off without turning it into a muddy mess.
Arguable why people need huge vans parked in residential areas of course. Do you have a work place and if so can't you park the van there and commute there?
Besides that, I bet you can do a multi-point turn and avoid the verge.
Not that the verge is her property, but then the council may not be all that happy either. I can see concern that the mud spreads onto the path and if she slips up on it then you have bigger issues.
Is that actually a drop kerb in front of your drive? Doesn't look like it but it might be my crap eyes.Also, what happens if you come out facing the other way down the road?Presumably you would be trashing the bit in front of your own house instead of hers.
seems to me that turning the other way is the best option here
She is being annoying but she has a teeny bit of a point
The patch of grass is in front of her boundry wall. I can see why it might annoy her as well but I have no other way to get out once on.
If anyone's going to say then dont park on my drive in 99% of the time there's no other parking on my street as it's full. Some residents will park a car on their drive and put two on the road. My neighbour to the left has an off-road lanrover hobby thing on his drive which hasn't moved for over a year. So he'll park on the road as will his girfriend.
Astroturf it when she's not looking.
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It might be the only way to get out but does that make it ok?
If there aren't any cars parked to the left then I can turn left out of my drive. If there are cars there then its even narrower and I can't turn up the road as the road narrows...and no I dont have a single place of work that I can commute to.
Yes dropped kerb.
If my neighbour constantly did that to the path in front of my house, I'd not be too pleased either. I'd plant a nice rosebush there and a few rocks.