He was making them? That shines a new light onto this tale.
Downloading an image is effectively making a copy. The offence of "making an image" doesn't mean he was actually taking the original picture, just making copies.
That's what I believe too Perchy but not sure.
KIlo thank you for you work in catching and prosecuting these indivifduals I've been unfortunate in what I have seen but I can not comprehend what you must of had to view and experience. Another person if I meet up with I will buy at least one pint.
What worries me most is that we're becoming desensitised to it. It happens so regularly that people just seem to shrug their shoulders and ignore it.
Sorry, but this is complete rubbish.
if anything, it's the total opposite of this.
Was just about to echo the thoughts of spursn17, people like kilo are under appreciated heroes.
Sorry, but this is complete rubbish.
Neal, I'm speaking from actual experience, so don't tell me it's rubbish.
My garden is a large wooded area. Children from a nearby road sometimes play in the wood, and to do so, they have to scramble through his overgrown garden.
One of their fathers came looking for a football, so I mentioned that he might want to be a bit careful letting his kids (under the age of 10) clamber through a paedophile's garden alone.
Guess what... He shrugged his shoulders. So don't tell me I'm talking rubbish! Do you have any direct experience??
Err, yeah. Volunteered to work with kids recently? Having to jump through hoops to get DBS done, then mandatory safeguarding training done.
I don’t think anyone apart from asshats doesn’t take child protection seriously. You’re basing that statement from interaction with one bloke, I recently worked at a Scout/Guides MOOT. The safeguarding procedures they had in place were akin to the security at Camp Bastion. I was bloody impressed.
You’re basing that statement from interaction with one bloke
No I'm not, that was one example. If you've read the whole thread, I've talked at length about the attitudes of villagers where it's "not something we talk about" because they'd prefer to forget that we have a monster living in our midst.
Well, if they don’t want to know or talk about it, you can’t make them. If you want to raise your concerns with the police, then morally you’ve done the due diligent thing. But outside of that, to them you’ll look like an arse if you make more noise.
I guess some people would rather live in ignorance than have an open conversation about this bloke. If the worst happens to their children then apart from him, they only have themselves to blame for failing to protect their kids.
And if I was in your shoes I’d take my kids up to him, present them, make sure he got a good look at them, send them on their way. He and I then would have a chat, where I’d tell him I know who he is and what’s he’s done, and to request that he nevers speaks, looks or even breathes in my children’s direction.
I wouldn’t threaten him, because ultimately some things are best left unsaid. I’d then go and explain to my children that he was a bad man and that they must never talk to him or go near him and if he approaches them they’re to tell me or another responsible adult immediately.
If he didn’t heed the warning. Then things would escalate and me and the local cops would be having a conversation and accusations would be made.
Well, if they don’t want to know or talk about it, you can’t make them. If you want to raise your concerns with the police, then morally you’ve done the due diligent thing. But outside of that, to them you’ll look like an arse if you make more noise.
Again, I think you've waded into a discussion without reading it. My concern is that there is a new generation of villager who has recently moved to the area (lots of new-build starter homes for young families) who know nothing about this man.
As several posters have said so far (you'd know this if you'd read it) have said they would definitely want to know. But the pervading attitude of "we don't talk about it" means these people are unaware that the friendly monoped who they and their kids wave to and bid a friendly 'good morning' is probably fantasising about raping them!
All right no need to be a arse, I could do the same and surmise that you’re just here to bump your gums but in reality you’ll do **** all about it.
If you genuinely have a concern, do something. You’ve been given from what I can see plenty of advice. So go act on it or don’t.
Moose, you've joined a discussion without reading any of it and accused me of various things from jumping to conclusions with little basis, and now you're calling me an arse for being frustrated with your attitude!
If you'd read any of the preceding 5 pages rather than try to pick holes in the discussion that were covered within those 5 pages, I might have a little more patience for your comments.
Right, I’ve just spoken to my cousin who is a cop, this is what she’s suggested, I’ve changed it as I don’t know where you are. Google Child Exploitation unit {insert your county or city/town force here} see what pops up and pick the most applicable. They should have a contact page, give them a call and arrange for a call/meeting. They will be aware of this man and his licences conditions. Explain your concerns, if he is breaking his licence then they should follow that up, but you may not know this. If he’s sailing close to the wind they will most likely go out and have a conversation with him and remind him of his conditions.
That is what is done by my cousins force. Give that a whirl, if that doesn’t satisfy you, then Try the local paper, if you’re somewhere near a big city they may have an invesatgitve jouranlist who may want to have a look at it. Apart from that, you need to decide how far above the parapet you’re willing to stick your head because there’s no real anonymous way of outing this man. And if you choose a variety of methods to do that, there will be some backlash and you need to be prepared for that.
I have read it, it’s mostly bollocks and assumptions. Some conclusions that I’ve apprared are bigger jumps than Evel Knievel ever managed.
It’s a no brainier if you’re so concerned you have to ask for peoples opinions. Do or do not. That’s your choice, you’ve been given a fair few options. So make a choice.
Do you have any direct experience??
Yes.
councilof10 - Member
In fact if the OP punched him in the face once a week to increase that suffering then that would be ok with me!
Leave it with me!Seriously, I agree 100% with those sentiments,
You guys could both follow through with your wishes and then the old bill could deal with you as they have done with the target. Win, win?
Hmmm...
Seems like
1) the OP hasn't yet bothered doing what sensible people here have suggested, discussing things with the Police re the terms of his release and registration.
2) The locals he demonises as not caring possibly might just not like the OP, who recently here, I believe, seemed unable to stomach any criticism of Jacob Rees-Mogg....
3) The OP might be a returnee to STW under a new name? Or have I got this wrong?
OP, have a chat with the police. I think your concerns are understandable, but need to be handled sensibly.
I still think you should steal his mechanical leg. It'll make him much slower
and now having named the person involved earlier, you've just threatened him on a public forum! This is why the public don't have an automatic right to know this information.councilof10 - Member
In fact if the OP punched him in the face once a week to increase that suffering then that would be ok with me!
Leave it with me!Seriously, I agree 100% with those sentiments, .
The person wandering through the garden might well have taken heid of your comments without it becoming melodramatic. Not everyone comes to the realisation that there are bad people living near them and starts putting up bill boards and asking the Internet for advice. Of course based on your attitude here you might well have come across as passive aggressive and so failed to communicate the point you were trying to make.
Out of interest if your wife came home and said she thought you should move because of the risk he poses to your soon to be born child, would you be so keen to shout about the "pervert next door" knowing it would likely make it harder to sell your house?
Moose, you've joined a discussion without reading any of it and accused me of various things from jumping to conclusions with little basis,
Oh the irony .
A very interesting and disturbing thread , disturbing because it's almost made me feel like I want to side with the paedophile .
3) The OP might be a returnee to STW under a new name? Or have I got this wrong?
Not wrong. Shibboleth is just but one of his previous incarnations, gets banned, then reappears a while later. Perhaps he's got narcissistic personality disorder...
I guess this is the realm of a PCSO. If it is an issue I would suggest campaigning to have a crb check on every member of your community given to local law enforcement. Seems a bit Ott though.
ohh I've fallen for a troll. d'oh!
steal his mechanical leg
Nah, weld him to a submarine 😈