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The neighbors Parrot. The dog was having a quick wee in the garden and got out.
The gardens fenced off, but people say that some dogs can scale fences?.
It went into another garden, managed to get into the house and get the Parrot.
The dog was accidently let out the house by a visitor to our place on firework night and ended up at the same house. So it must have known the Parrot was there and went for it three months later.
This dog is'nt insured, not that it would have helped. I just don't know were I stand.
We have only had this dog since August (it was a rescue dog) and the kennels checked our security, which was fine.
We have another dog, a Springer that we've owned without incident since 2000.
I was advised by the son of the owner not to see them just yet.
Don't know what to do?
Braise it for 30 minutes and add a curry sauce?
Was it a Norwegian blue?
Good answer - sneak over and nail it to the perch!
pining for the Fjords?
oh thats not nice I would get that credit card braced as some parrots are very valuable, enough for burglars to plan there theft. If it was my parrot I'd want the value back as a bare minimum. You sound like a reasonable chap so sort it out in the same fashion.
Having a joke at the expense of a dead Parrot and grieving owners.
Should have known you gits.
So does hell await as I smirked at IM's comment?
druidh - that is the funniest thing I have read in ages :lol:, sorry oldgit but it just hit the spot!
As Tails said,your going to have to fork up the cost of a new parrot.They can be expensive!!!
This is too weird to be true.
However, under the Dogs Act 1871, any person may make a complaint to a magistrates court that a dog is dangerous, or report the matter to the police. If the court is satisfied that a dog is dangerous and not kept under proper control, it may make an order for it to be controlled or destroyed.
The Animals Act 1971 provides that the keeper of an animal is liable for any damage it causes, if he knows it was likely to cause such damage or injury unrestrained.
Don't just offer to replace it, though, Might seem a bit insensitive.
I'd glue it to my sons face, and fight it off with a shovel though. Make it look like self defence
Your dog will be up in front of the beak, soften the blow to your neighbours, offer to stuff the parrot with pollyfiller
Some Shrewd advice on here, offer to pay as they may want to claw in back..Be careful they maybe robin bastids and try to rip you off
House insurance might cover it. Worth checking?
So you've ruffled a few feathers, tell the husband that you new his wife had had a cockatoo 😈
think if you wanna check your byelaws its actually your neighbours responsibility to secure their garden to prevent anything entering it.
since you didnt deliberately set the dog on the parrot - its not actually your problem so long as you agree it was bad and promise to keep the dog under stricter control in future.
either way i dont envy you the inevitable conversation, a lot of sorry required?
may be best to contact the rescue, if necessary you may have to return it just to appease the neighbours, depends how much you give a $hit
sobalias - it does not have to be deliberate. a dog owner is responsible for any damage the dog causes as Mildred says above. No defense. the dog causes damage the owner is liable. animals act 1971 - its there on the net if you google for it.
It's all the rage, you know?
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if the parrot had kicked first and asked questions later, it would be a different story
but people say that some dogs can scale fences?.
Here's a classic example of the climbing dog in action 🙂
BTW, is your dog a beagle?
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=MLssW7lyzxw
the parrot did not know his trail craft!! his bad take note everybody
Pop down your local pet shop (not pet shop shop of course) and get a budgie. Tell them that in the new world everything has had to be reduced - including the parrot.
Can they prove that the parrot was in fact alive at the time of the dog's intervention? Might be a plausible question once you've had a read of this:
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Good luck.
How did the dog get into their house? I can understand getting out of your garden and into theirs but not into their house unless the let it.
TJ... if you are quoting Mildred, then get it right... they said:-
The Animals Act 1971 provides that the keeper of an animal is liable for any damage it causes, if he knows it was likely to cause such damage or injury unrestrained.
The bit you seem to have just glossed over is the section that says, 'if the owner knows it was likely to cause such damage or injury unrestrained'.
In this case I'd say unless oldgit knew the dog was likely to try and escape the garden, and had a habit of killing birds, then quite how he is supposed to know the dog is likely to do that is quite beyond me, so I would imagine he would not be strictly liable under that act.
I would venture to say that it would be a good idea though for oldgit to try and sort something out with his neighbours...
Shoot the dog. There's too many about anyway.
Then to make amends, invite your neighbours over for a Korean night.
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Quick - this is still 99p on ebay. They'll never notice the difference!
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Slightly OT- Reminds me of the time that I burst into the pub on a Sat night and said to my mates 'theres a huge African Parrot in the bush outside' (que gags/lafs about drugs/drink).
Poor Parrot stayed there all night (frosty night) as RSPCA/etc etc werent interested 🙁
I like the contributions from armchair lawyers, especially when they can't even spell 'defence'.
Seriously - check you house insurance you may find it will be covered by that, but I think you're going to have to be prepared to fork out for a new parrot if that's what they want.
I really believe that as a responsible dog owner it is up to you to offer to replace the bird or at least offer to pay for the cost of replacing the bird. You need to remember that parrots live for years and just as we get attached to our dogs/cats, and would be upset if someone’s dog killed them, they may really be upset over the death of their parrot.
If their son is recommending you don't see them yet, I would advise you drop them a note explaining how sorry you are about the accident, and that you'd like to discuss how you can make things right. Leave your contact details so they can contact you when they feel ready to.
A mate of mine was knocked off his motorbike (in a 30mph zone i.e. residential area) by a dog several years back.He wasn't too damaged but his leathers were scuffed up and there was several £100s of damage done to the bike. As someone called 999 for an ambulance (it looked much worse than it actually was)the plods turned up. They interviewed the dog's owners who said that this was the first time the dog had strayed out of the garden, let alone run in front of a vehicle. To cut to the chase, the view the police took was that as this was a "one off" the owners were not liable and there would be no case to argue that it was generally "out of control". So...tough **** as far as he was concerned. There do seem to be some parallels between the incident with your ex parrot and my mate's canine "friend".....you may get away with it but then.....what do I know?
Defiantly offer to replace the parrot whilst apologizing profusely. You could be looking at anything between £400 and well over £1000, depending if it was hand reared, a good talker etc etc...
If it was my Parrot, I'd be gutted.
Some funny posts above though.... :p
slowjo surely your mate could have brought a civil action against the owners for costs/repairs?
I almost knocked down two men last night on a three lane/40mph road. The idiots were in the process of legging it across as I was changing lanes/shoulder-checking. Luckily I looked back at the last moment and just missed them. There are continuous railing on this stretch and believe me, if I had hit them I would have checked my legal cover for partial-full liability of the pedestrians. GF said thats callous thinking but then, it wouldnt have been all my fault considering the idiots were reckless.
The dog in the OP had already made one attempt at getting into the neighbours house so I would think it highly probable that the need for "'if the owner knows it was likely to cause such damage or injury unrestrained'. would be met
AS for the coppers / motorcycle one. Cops not knowing the law shock - it happens all the time. No ordinary copper can be an expert on all obscure bits of law.
[i]Having a joke at the expense of a dead Parrot and grieving owners.
Should have known you gits.[/i]
There was a thread on Pistonheads once. An absolute classic. Poster had found a dead cat on his drive and asked for advice on what to do with it. Some of the responses were pure comedy. Hang on....Now this is insensitive!!
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ultimately reagrdless of what happens you are going be a a fair bit out of pocket, and you need to secure your garden. As if the dog got out once it will do it again
How did the dog get into their house? I can understand getting out of your garden and into theirs but not into their house unless the let it.
Maybe the dog picked the lock, or got the spare key from under a plant pot in the garden.
Or, and here's a thought, maybe they had the door open?
how dare they leave their own door open, in their own garden, its just reckless and irresponsible.
Defiantly offer to replace the parrot whilst apologizing profusely
Is that possible? 🙂
claim your dog was (a) valuable, (b) allergic to parrot meat, and (c) has since died. oooh. wonder why?
If you offer to pay for a new parrot they'll claim it was worth loads even if it wasn't.
buy them one of these and claim dyslexia;
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incidently and completely ot google returned this as a result for 'carrot';
love the caption on the carrot shot;
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How much for a Parrot?
That's a serious amount of dosh!
I would have made sure my doors were locked to stop someone nicking it!
oldgit - Have your neighbours giving you any ideas on how they want this to play out?
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[i]Slightly OT- Reminds me of the time that I burst into the pub on a Sat night and said to my mates 'theres a huge African Parrot in the bush outside' (que gags/lafs about drugs/drink).[/i]
I find this hard to believe. There's no way hora has mates
Some people on here are such muppets. You have to take responsibility for your actions, you caused this damage (indirectly I admit) so you need to pay to get it fixed.
Yes it may cost you a lot of money, but thats life. If it bothers you that much you should have found out how the dog got out of the garden on its 1st attempt, and blocked it.
This growing trend of its not my fault, I let my dog/child/car/whatever run out of control, its god/nature/space aliens is bullshit and people need to grow up and act like adults instead of selfish spoilt children.
Old lad on my road once told me that he was perplexed how his Westie kept on escaping the garden (high wall/gate padlocked etc). Then one day a neighbour spotted the dog using a gap between a small tree in the garden and the wall to hoist himself up and over.
well considering its a gay dog, he should have shot it.
I know someone who has a parrot that is a football fan and commentates on matches on the TV (it supports Arsenal and boos other teams - it's owners are Geordies supporting NUFC and it argues with them about football), comments on people's dress sense and hair styles, eats curry, likes beer, chats away about all sorts. Asks them how their night was when they come in. etc etc. It's like a member of the family, and has been so for about 20 years. Oh, and it doesn't bite people and jump at cyclists.
And your dog's just eaten something like this?????
I'd move house if I were you, they're gonna kill ya! And swap your dog for a parrot, they sound miles more fun.
If I was the parrots owner I would be 'pilling you're pants down' BIG-TIME!!!! Regarding replacement cost!!!
Then I would mourn the loss of my dead parrot,
Keep the evil drooling smelly bag of fur on a leash its least you can do as youre not capable of keeping it on YOURE land
It would be p*ss funny if a large bird of prey plucked the said bag of fur from youre garden as supper tonight!!!!
just out of interest what type of parrot was it?
one of these?
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or these?
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as if its either you are looking at around £1500 to £2500 to replace it.
Where I used to live in Spain (Sierra Espuna) the Eagles would come down to the village sometimes and fly off with small yappy dogs if there wasn;t much prey about up in the mountains. These things are monster huge.
They never went for cats tho. I also always suspected a bit that it was a bit of a cover story cos neighbours took the yappy wee things for a long long walk...
My Gran used to have an African grey they brough back from Kenya in the 40s/50s. Fantastic bird. Must have been nearly 60 when it died.
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If I was the parrots owner I would be 'pilling you're pants down' BIG-TIME!!!! Regarding replacement cost!!!Then I would mourn the loss of my dead parrot,
Keep the evil drooling smelly bag of fur on a leash its least you can do as youre not capable of keeping it on YOURE land
Is that even in english?
I'm not a Parrot Lover however I can't even begin to think about the anguish these people must be feeling right now. To see your pet killed by another animal must be horrible. If they are petlovers it must be doubly hard as they cant face 'retribution' either.
Jeesus, I'd be over there today with an expensive bottle of wine, a big bouquet of flowers and discuss an action plan for replacing their Parrot with one they chose (of course not an African Grey etc).
It did'ne escape last time, a guest on firework night decided to go outside for a fag and left the door open for it.
The Parrot owners were having a firework night BBQ and took it in and fed it etc etc.
I don't know how the the **** it got out, the garden is fenced all round. My assumption is that it scaled the fence, there's a bit were my elderly neighbor passes buscuits over.
The Parrots house is seven houses away, so it made a beeline staight for that place. They must have left their door open whilst they were at work.
Out of interest did the neighbour come round and say "your dog eat our parrot" or did the dog just return home with a face full of feathers?
Well I'm an african grey owner, if a dog did that to mine I'd be furious.
My little Sukie is 13 years old now and still a youngster, parrots have real charater, one is often very different from another, even in same breeds.
You are going to be looking at £1500 plus for a good quailty hand reared bird.
I can sort you out with a rare Glozzershire Giant Parrot. £20.
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My African Grey, Alfie
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Replaced by our Boxer dog. We had to sell the parrot cause the boxer kept trying to get him when he came down for his breakfast. The wife and kids wanted a dog, but Alfie was my pet. He was bloody great company. Miss him like mad.
*walks off grumbling about bloody dogs.........
Lowey, I reckon you should have sold the wife, kids and dog instead. You'd had got more money, and he looks like a cool little fella!
I;d probably have to pay someone to take my lot away .... 😆
Lets cut to the chase, animals kill each other, it's nature. But for the parrot to have been killed by a dog, it must have either been incredibly stupid or in a very deep sleep....either way it's natural selection.
Been to see the owners.
It turns out that they let the dog in, and despite the owners trying to fend off our dog it despatched the parrot within seconds.
Spoken to the KC, the local vets and the kennels. It does'nt come under dangerous dogs, it's just a sad and unfortunate thing. I am trying to rehome the dog though.
or perhaps it though it was safe inside its home.
Following that logic if someone enters your house without permission and takes something thats OK, as its natural selection as you didn't lock the door and its in some people nature to take things.
edit: if they let it in, then its a bit of different story, still shit tho.
"The Parrot owners were having a firework night BBQ and took it in and fed it etc etc."
They are not totally blameless then, feed a dog when it comes to your house, it will come back, the follow their stomachs more than anything else.
They let it in...... Totally their fault.
I hope the guilt of the terrible death of their parrot keeps them awake at night.
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"I hope the guilt of the terrible death of their parrot keeps them awake at night."
you're all heart r_rob.
Oldgit, Are they asking for anything for compensation then ?
you could offer them the dog if you don't want it anymore, they need a new pet...
And then they kinda get the parrot back aswell !
Or at least some of it.
The Parrot was bought for their daughter wh now lives away from home. At the moment they are asking for nothing, so they might not want to replace it, but I'd be ok with it if they do want to.
Just wish they'd never taken it in, and I wish their garden had had a fence not just a few conifers.
Totally crap situation.
So why do you need to get the dug rehomed?
Have they asked you to rehome the dog?
This is a Parrot Farm.
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Well if I owned a £2k pet I'd have it insured. Our £0 cat is insured, even.
Nice bit of trail in that pic, redthunder.
2 pages into a thread on dogs and TJ has only posted twice, this must be a new record 😉
great, they claim off their insurance and we all pay for it.
Woof?