So, declaration and get amongst 'em?
depends how many tickets have been sold for tomorrow 😉
No declaration.
Smash a quick 50, then?
Odd decision - would have thought it is perfect for bowling, and the forecast for today isn’t great.
Smash a quick 50, then?
need to hit it first
396-7 declared.
Vijay out for a duck.
India 0-1
the gammons in the members are currently muttering about "the lefty nonsense".
Good job they batted this morning, it made a day of it.
Win in under 2 days worth of play, favourable conditions or not, that's a thrashing.
Long post (bear with me)
So- setting aside rights and wrongs of the case (there's another thread for that) - on a purely playing basis
Should Stokes go back into the side or rather, as he's been added to the squad I'd assume they are serious about playing him as he's the best all rounder of his generation.....so who makes way?
Woakes is last man in but with 137* and 4 wickets he'd be tough to drop.
Curran is the 'weakest' player (OK, all rounder) in the team in theory but has hardly let himself or anyone else down.
Rashid has been picked for a reason, but in spite of a drought and heatwave, the weather has presented us two 'swing round corners' test matches so he hasn't really been called on so far. If Trent Bridge is the same, I think he might be the one to make way and use Root as a back up spinner if needed
But that then gives a side with 2 bowlers, and 4 all rounders (OK, Curran's a bowler who bats and Root would be a batter who bowls but you know what i mean)
Then you get to the more off the wall ideas.
Ollie Pope did nothing wrong (and can catch!!), but could go with the batters moving up one in the order.
Buttler could go ......but I see him as integral to the style England want to play in the middle order, so unlikely.
Cook needs a score but first man in can always be feast or famine, he got two jaffas in T1, and one thing about Cook is that you know he'll sooner or later come good. And who'd move up to open? Buttler? Warner style to dominate, but his technique is also pretty good, as in that ODI where he batted through to win the game rather than biff and bash.
Broad...... getting on, can't really bat any more and hasn't done anything.......ah, no, wait! hasn't done anything until the second innings at Lords when he was unplayable - he is to bowling what Cook is to batting. And because batters set up games but bowlers win them, you need Broad in case today's the day he just clicks, and it's not as if he's bad when he isn't being brilliant. And it'll swing at TB, and it's his home ground, and......
So - on balance i think Rashid.
I'd go with Rashid out for Stokes if you want him back. as was shown in the Ashes it's his attacking nature that counters Root's conservative nature to get the team in the right positions. though if it swings and it's damp no real need for any changes
Rashid would be the obvious one for Trent Bridge where it usually swings. Broad can't be dropped there, it's his home ground and he destroyed the Aussies there a few years ago.
I don't think Stokes should get back in. As you've said the others haven't done anything wrong. No point going in with 5 pace bowlers, 4 should be enough so you might as well keep Rashid in just in case. The situation Stokes got himself shouldn't be ignored or condoned, I don't think he should be banned but he's got to see that getting drunk and knocking people out isn't compatible with being a professional athlete. It's his fault he wasn't in the team so he should wait his turn to get back in. Unless he can bat at 4 or 5.
Ha! I suspect he’ll be more MIchael Vaughan than Mark Ramprakash.
TMS v Tailenders today at 1600, red button/interweb/5Live Sports Extra.
Was a giggle last year
Could be a bit spicy.
Tried to get tickets for it, looking forward to 4pm!
Could be a bit spicy.
Chuckles and wonders how many others will get said comment.
Whoever's playing, go well.
Whoever’s playing, go well.
Cheers...
It's getting tense here, run rate dropping for the TMS team
Catchin Tendulkar!
Good game! Solid umpiring and some good reviews. Not sure on the counting at times there....
Oh, it’s one of those “bowl too short “ matches from Broad.
And Stokes, perhaps?
Yes, not a great first over. Settling in though.
And then Woakes’ short ball gets the third wicket - make for a jolly England lunch,
Yes, but that was a proper intentional short ball, rather than back of a length dross on a swinging deck!
should have kept Curran in the side for a bit of variation, military medium right arm over is all a bit predicable especially when there's no swing.
just been on catch up. Don't know why Bairstow left it, clear keeper's catch, but that's a heck of a grab by Cook.
Solid end to the day there, they need to be on and mop up very quick tomorrow to get on top. Otherwise could be a long day
Imagine how sharp Broad could be if he actually had his hand behind the ball at release....
Hmmm... strikes me that the England bowling 'attack' is still flummoxed when there's no moisture in the air or wicket. On flat tracks, they seem unable to produce any variation and at what is considered as medium - fast/medium pace, once again, batsmen can pick them off with relative ease.
Trent Bridge usually throws up a moving wicket, although apart from the first couple of hours yesterday, this time around, it looks inert. With the drizzle and moisture this morning along with the new ball, there maybe something to help our bowlers, if not, this test has India win all over it.
Personally, I would have retained Sam Curran for his variation and he can hold a bat. Is Stokes really that influential? The pundits seem to think he's the contemporary Botham, I'd be more convinced if he were our equivalent to Jaques Kallis.
I’d be more convinced if he were our equivalent to Jaques Kallis.
He had a batting average of 55! One of the greatest players ever.
Along with ABdeV!
ask the umpire 🙂
That voice...
😍
dead ball already 🙂
PMSL at the clown shoe/cricket boot hybrid...
Kallis: in 166 Tests scored 13,289 runs at 55.37, took 292 wickets at 32.65 and took 200 catches! So often underrated because he just got on with it. No fuss, no shouty shouty.
He’s a better all rounder than Botham, Imran and Kapil. Probably second only to Sobers as an all rounder. Certainly the best all rounder since the mid 90s unless you sneakily allow Gilchrist a look-in and even then, Kallis is better.
wheels are coming off here!
need another 19 to save the follow on 4 wickets left
