I think they did want to brawl a cricket star then they found out he is more than handy so backed off. We will never know I guess.
I hope the ecb support him with any issues if it's a stress/drink problem. Wonder if there is a drinking culture at his club*
It looks bad for him, think he will be banned for a period but should be allowed back having served his punishment.
His job is professional sportsman so he needs to set an example, and be made an example off for unacceptable behaviour. But if his job was anything else he would be allowed to continue having served whatever punishment (there maybe some jobs that he wouldn't be allowed to continue in), but most importantly he should be given help.
An interesting twist in the latest story:
"In a further twist to the saga, it has been claimed by Piers Morgan, the media personality, that Stokes' involvement in the incident came in defence of two gay men who had been subjected to homophobic abuse in the bar. ESPNcricinfo understands that this is consistent with the players' version of events"
Though I tend to agree with JY, the initial incident looks like self defence and if he'd stopped there he'd probably escape without being charged, but then he keeps going after them when they've thought better of it.
Starts of as self defence ends up as assault on people who clearly dont want to fight.
I think the bloke only changed his mind on the fighting front when it became apparent he would lose. Nonetheless, it's not pretty watching I have to agree.
And worse, the Aussies as usual seem to love throwing stones in their own [s]glass[/s] Warner house
More top tossing from the skipper.
England bowl first.
Last TMS of the 'summer', always a melancholic day
Big stuff from Gayle!
Big, but short.
That's the thing with Gayle, he's entertaining but he never feels a true threat
WI still have lots of Hope though
Roy 😡 👿
They should be playing battleship, it's a bit last day of school this match
More marvellousness from the Beeb online commentary team
Eng 226-1
Bairstow 90, Root 31
On the subject of if you need a red cow and a white cow to make a pink one, someone has pointed out that the thing you really need is a bull. Fair point.
James Pattinson out of Ashes
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I'm not quite sure why some England cricket followers are being so pessimistic about the Ashes.
We're not brilliant at the moment and we may be missing Stokes, but the Aussies are in a worse state. We have big question marks over key places, but we have more certain picks than they do.
Who worries me in the Aussie side?
Warner - yes a bit, but he'll fail as often as not.
Smith - grudgingly yes, but he's still the worst no 1 test batsman I can remember (half ironic, half serious).
Starc - yes, but he's only one bowler and he has had his share of injuries.
Hazlewood - nice stock bowler, not much more.
Then you're into the rest.
Pattinson is already up the ladder, again.
Cummins will not last a full series, three certainties in life, death, taxes and Pat Cummins injuring himself.
Who's the keeper at the moment? Wade? Crap keeper who can't buy a run at test level.
Nathan Lyon? Not the worst, but most definitely not a great. Ali is nearly as good a bowler and is far from a total rabbit with the bat.
Steve O'Keefe? Samit Patel is a better round-arm pie chucker than him.
Jackson Bird? Medium pace filth.
Joe Mennie? Slow medium pace filth.
The Marshes? Would struggle to get in the England team, even at the moment.
We're a way better team than them.
Hmmm, I think the problem will be England's bowling. I can't see Broad and Anderson's relative lack of pace being too threatening on Aussie pitches. If the Aussies win the tosses expect some big scores and the usual England collapses.
Dannyh I actually agree with you, England have nothing really to fear other than the conditions. Lyon has improved though
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Lyon is a pretty good bowler, but it will be important when he gets chucked the ball for the first time in the series. If it's against new middle order batsman having to rebuild after the quicks have taken wickets it is a lot different to him being thrown the ball in desperation after thirty overs with England 130-0.
Oh and Nevill is the keeper. Better than tin-mitts Wade with the gloves, but a rabbit with the bat.
Even without Stokes we are the better team.
David Warner - what a dildo!
First blood to the Aussies in the women's ashes.
just watching the end of the 3rd ODI, what a beautiful keeper Sarah Taylor is. Brilliant generally and just taken a worldy leg side stumping.
I know it's tough to compare with the difference in pace, etc., but for sheer technique I don't think there's a better keeper in the world game currently. Men or women.
So, what do we make of the men's chances? Flakey batting yet again, but the d/n looks like it may make for nearly unplayable conditions around dusk if today's anything to go by: http://m.bbc.com/sport/cricket/41942690
That said, it was pretty much ideal swing bowling conditions here in Adelaide today.
PSA Henry Blofeld on Have I got news for you (on iplayer)
Also looks like Craig Overton is in for the first test
Craig’s bowling is still inconsistent, but would be v. unlucky not to show an improvement in his batting in the Townsville game... Not sure there are many other quicks available and in form.
I think Woakes will be the star of this tour. The whole Stokes Fiasco is such a shame. A middle order of Stokes , Bairstow, Ali, Woakes, Overton is very strong.
I think Woakes will be the star of this tour. The whole Stokes Fiasco is such a shame. A middle order of Stokes , Bairstow, Ali, Woakes, Overton is very strong.
Agreed. Woakes looks in pretty good form with bat and ball, and has the potential to be a genuine bowling all rounder. Personally, I'd play Foakes as keeper, shove Bairstow up the order and drop Vince. Bairstow/ Foakes/ Moeen/ Woakes/ Overton is very strong.
shove Bairstow up the order and drop Vince
That sounds promising and Vince certainly doesn't seem up to it, but I'd love to see him make runs. Problem is that shoves Root up to 3 which he doesn't seem to want to do and takes the gloves from Jonny. He seems to be comforted by being keeper, like it gives freedom to his batting. They are both too important to the team to have changes imposed at this point which may unsettle our two best batsmen, shame though.
That sounds promising and Vince certainly doesn't seem up to it, but I'd love to see him make runs.
If he'd been scoring a bucketload in the CC, I'd say that he deserves a run. But he's been nearly as rubbish there this season as he has been in the test side. Take your point about moving Root, but traditionally don't you play your best batsman at 3?
Shaun Marsh again! Bring the Paine!
This is why the Aussies don't worry me. Picking Paine is just plain weird. It might turn out to be the 'Peter Who' moment for the 2010s but more than likely it won't.
As for Shaun Marsh, he's another who wouldn't get into the England side, so happy days. Are they still picking his brother as the token allrounder who wouldn't get into their team as either a batsman or bowler?
don't you play your best batsman at 3?
That's the Aussie way, best player puffs out chest and in he goes. The English way seems to protect our best player. Thinking Root now, KP never came in at 3, Vaughan did the 3 slot but I bet his stats suffered as a result and was he ever our best batsman? Thorpe always at 5. Trott was the one who played it best, the only we time we "solved" the number 3 problem and we went and won the Ashes in Aus, coincidence?
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Oh yes!
Not a bad lineup. And Botham there to run out Boycott if he's being a bit slow 🙂
Gary Pratt sub fielder
😆
Denis Lillee and Geoffrey Boycott in the same team, ain't going to happen.
The real shame is our 3 should be James Taylor.
Steve Smith is by far and away Australia's best player but bats at 4.
Anyone else bemused by the bogan chat and talking themselves up? They do it every time, do they not know how stupid they look?
"Opening old wounds?"
How does all out for 60 sound? 😆
Good point James Taylor would slot into the batting lineup nicely.
Bit of a PSA I realised that TV coverage is on BT Sport. Wondered how you get legal access to this? I have plusnet broadband who are now part of BT and via the plusnet site was able to get the BT Sport app for £5 per month. Bargain price and I can cast it to my TV via chrome cast.
Can't wait to watch the first session in less than 48 hours time!
Just realised I get 3 months of BT sport app with EE 😀
BT Sport app won’t work overseas with a vpn.
It requires access to yourgps location.
Exciting finish in prospect in final game of Women's Ashes
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Cook, Stoneman, Vince, Root, Malan, Bairstow, Ali, Woakes, Broad, Ball, Anderson
Surprised Ball instead of Overton, I think it's a hight/bounce thing.
It requires access to yourgps location.
There are a couple of GPS spoofers for android about.
It's going to be fast, bouncy and probably moving a lot in the first session. Batting first and getting to Lunch/0 is the key thing there. The aim for this one is survival. Tale the game to them in the day night in Adelaide and use the swing to get up on them.
For the Aussies it's all about intimidation at this point they need to make them scared to come out and bat.
If they get in England have the deeper batting order so getting a good score should be possible.
